which bikes?

MyPostingID said:

is there a list somewhere of which riders in Le Tour de France, ride
which bikes?
thank you.

This site lists all the ProTour teams and has links to the websites for
each team - you can find out most anything about any team from there.

http://www.uciprotour.com/templates/UCI/UCI2/layout.asp?MenuId=MTY5Ng

in message <[email hidden]>, Brian Phillips

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Lampre is on Wilier bikes this year. The current issue of Cycle Sport
has an article w/photos of all the team bikes. The Bianchis of LiquiGas
are aluminum, with some having carbon seat stays.

OK, that makes two teams on Wiliers. A bit of web search says they're
Italian. According to their website, they're 100 years old, and have
been heavily involved in racing for the last 60.

Why have they wholly failed to make any impact on my consciousness in
that time? Are their products terminally ordinary, or else so rare as to
be obscure? And what's an Italian bike maker doing selling most of its
models with (spit) Shimano groupsets?

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Here's a bit more history on them, along with info on their newest bike:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2006/features/wilier_centenary

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in message <[email hidden]>, Brian Phillips

(') said:

Lampre is on Wilier bikes this year. The current issue of Cycle Sport
has an article w/photos of all the team bikes. The Bianchis of LiquiGas
are aluminum, with some having carbon seat stays.

OK, that makes two teams on Wiliers. A bit of web search says they're
Italian. According to their website, they're 100 years old, and have
been heavily involved in racing for the last 60.

Why have they wholly failed to make any impact on my consciousness in
that time? Are their products terminally ordinary, or else so rare as to
be obscure? And what's an Italian bike maker doing selling most of its
models with (spit) Shimano groupsets?

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

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Brian Phillips a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Here's a bit more history on them, along with info on their newest bike:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2006/features/wilier_centenary

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in message <[email hidden]>, Brian Phillips

(') said:

Lampre is on Wilier bikes this year. The current issue of Cycle Sport
has an article w/photos of all the team bikes. The Bianchis of LiquiGas
are aluminum, with some having carbon seat stays.

processor.

Did someone just open the jar and let a simon brooke thingie out ?
There was a little Italian guy who rode Wilier successfully, when he
didn't ride Carrera or Bianchi. (Italian not British names. Not
Condor, e.g.) Shaved his balding head too, like a pirate. Seems he was
well known, loved in Italy, deceased sadly too soon.

Let's put that simon brooke thingie back in its jar. On the other hand,
maybe it will look things up, first.

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- Edward O. Wilson

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([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

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OK, that makes two teams on Wiliers. A bit of web search says they're
Italian. According to their website, they're 100 years old, and have
been heavily involved in racing for the last 60.

Why have they wholly failed to make any impact on my consciousness in
that time? Are their products terminally ordinary, or else so rare as to
be obscure? And what's an Italian bike maker doing selling most of its
models with (spit) Shimano groupsets?

--
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Here's a bit more history on them, along with info on their newest bike:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2006/features/wilier_centenary

Cosmo provides some nice gossip about one of Wilier's recent racing
bikes:

http://cyclocosm.com/2006/06/irony-is-french-word-afterall-cas.html

In short, they were passing off a Scott CR-1 as a Wilier prototype. As
in, not just racing their competitor's frame with the wrong stickers,
but proudly telling people it was a prototype of a future project.

http://deepquote.net/h1u4g6v4avqw

Great artists steal,

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to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Simon Brooke said:

Disco ride Trek/Shimano
(Middle of the road US brand, now mainly made in the far east)

I'm surprised Mike Jacoubowsky hasn't already pointed
out that the high end Treks, like the team frames, are
made in the US.

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SDV are on Scott/Campagnolo
(Middle of the road US brand, now manufactured in the far east)

FWIW, "Scott USA" was a European only brand for bicycles for
a number of years. I think they re-entered the US market just a
couple of years ago, but you still don't see them around that much.
As with a number of these companies, they belong to a larger
conglomerate, which makes a bunch of things - Scott's original
and still main business is ski acessories.

Ben
I have a Scott virtual Tour-winning clip-on aerobar
around here somewhere.

Simon Brooke said:

Quoted message said:

Disco ride Trek/Shimano
(Middle of the road US brand, now mainly made in the far east)

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I'm surprised Mike Jacoubowsky hasn't already pointed
out that the high end Treks, like the team frames, are
made in the US.

I really can't understand this silly snobbery about bikes made in the
east. Carbon fibre expertise is much higher there than in many other
supposedly better traditional cycling countries.

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SDV are on Scott/Campagnolo
(Middle of the road US brand, now manufactured in the far east)

FWIW, "Scott USA" was a European only brand for bicycles for a number of
years.

Swiss I think.

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Simon Brooke said:

Disco ride Trek/Shimano
(Middle of the road US brand, now mainly made in the far east)

I'm surprised Mike Jacoubowsky hasn't already pointed
out that the high end Treks, like the team frames, are
made in the US.

That's why I said 'mainly'.

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SDV are on Scott/Campagnolo
(Middle of the road US brand, now manufactured in the far east)

FWIW, "Scott USA" was a European only brand for bicycles for
a number of years.

Now, that I didn't know. How very... odd. I bought my first Scott
mountain bike in 1990, I think - an enormously heavy rigid gas-pipe
special in swamp-monster-vomit green, which I rode happily across all
sorts of terrain for fifteen years.

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Simon Brooke said:

Rabobank are on Colnago/Shimano (surely that's heretical?)
(The definitive road bike, crafted in Italy)

TMo ride Giant/Shimano
(The worlds biggest bicycle maker, probably bigger than all the others
put together)

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However, having said all that, remember most teams don't really choose
their bikes... It's still blasphemy to put nasty cheap Japanese junk on a
Colnago.

Funny pic at
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4166
Apparently the Rabobank TT bikes were Giants painted as Colnagos. 🙂
"The definitive non-TT road bike, crafted in Italy"?

Dwayne schreef:

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Funny pic at
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4166
Apparently the Rabobank TT bikes were Giants painted as Colnagos. 🙂

However it does say Giant-something on the chainstay so they're not
trying to pull a Wilier.

--
E. Dronkert

Sandy said:

Brian Phillips a écrit :

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Here's a bit more history on them, along with info on their newest bike:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2006/features/wilier_centenary

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in message <[email hidden]>, Brian
Phillips
([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

> Lampre is on Wilier bikes this year. The current issue of Cycle Sport
> has an article w/photos of all the team bikes. The Bianchis of LiquiGas
> are aluminum, with some having carbon seat stays.
>

processor.

Did someone just open the jar and let a simon brooke thingie out ?
There was a little Italian guy who rode Wilier successfully, when he
didn't ride Carrera or Bianchi. (Italian not British names. Not
Condor, e.g.) Shaved his balding head too, like a pirate. Seems he was
well known, loved in Italy, deceased sadly too soon.
Let's put that simon brooke thingie back in its jar. On the other hand,
maybe it will look things up, first.

Gerolsteiner rode Willier in 2004 - Rebellin took three classics and
almost the World Cup that year.