proof of doping, data for chungchart

gym.gravity said:

some people say doping = faster tours

some peole say short tours = faster tours

some people say short tours = less stressful

some people say short tours = more aggressive riding

Just quickly looking at what has happened so far...1063km in
25:10:51....42.21km/h

We all know there are no dopers left in the peleton and that is the
proof, because last year when the peleton was chock full of dopers:

looking at the first ~1000km, excluding the TTT...1023.5km in
23:01:56...47.37km/h

2006 might be about 50km longer than 2005, so maybe the riders are just
saving energy.

5KPH is quite a bit to attribute to doping, don't you think?

I think we need a new newsgroup titled
"rec.bicycles.racing.bunkscience"

"gym.gravity" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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| some people say doping = faster tours
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| some peole say short tours = faster tours
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| some people say short tours = less stressful
|
| some people say short tours = more aggressive riding
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| Just quickly looking at what has happened so far...1063km in
| 25:10:51....42.21km/h
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| We all know there are no dopers left in the peleton and that is the
| proof, because last year when the peleton was chock full of dopers:
|
| looking at the first ~1000km, excluding the TTT...1023.5km in
| 23:01:56...47.37km/h
|
| 2006 might be about 50km longer than 2005, so maybe the riders are just
| saving energy.
|

1) Two fewer teams this year
2) No team time trial, so even excluding the higher speeds during that hour,
the teams (especially discovery and csc) are not worried about making sure
that any escape doesn't have a composition that threatens their goals of
grabbing the yellow, and being the best placed team so they can start the
TTT last.
3) The sucessful escape of the day is happenning much earlier this year than
last, meaning the peloton settles down sooner.

trg said:

1) Two fewer teams this year
2) No team time trial, so even excluding the higher speeds during that hour,
the teams (especially discovery and csc) are not worried about making sure
that any escape doesn't have a composition that threatens their goals of
grabbing the yellow, and being the best placed team so they can start the
TTT last.
3) The sucessful escape of the day is happenning much earlier this year than
last, meaning the peloton settles down sooner.

IMO, the speed of the first week of the Tour is set by the escapees.
After the escape is made, the peloton settles down, as you say,
and then rides just as fast as necessary to catch the escapees
a few km before the finish, calibrating its effort to the speed of the
escapees. The peloton could go faster, but why? It's more work and
they don't want to catch the escapees too soon, or there will be new
attacks. So obviously, it's nothing to do with the GC guys; it's
last year's escapees that were doping.

Quoted message said:

IMO, the speed of the first week of the Tour is set by the escapees.
After the escape is made, the peloton settles down, as you say,
and then rides just as fast as necessary to catch the escapees
a few km before the finish, calibrating its effort to the speed of the
escapees. The peloton could go faster, but why? It's more work and
they don't want to catch the escapees too soon, or there will be new
attacks. So obviously, it's nothing to do with the GC guys; it's
last year's escapees that were doping.

The Hinault opening: if it's an especially brutal Tour in the
mountains, and there are some pure climbers who can kick your ass in the
mountain stages, you ride their legs off in the flat stages so they
arrive in the second week having already shot their loads.

This year the mountain stages are not especially brutal, there are no
pure climbers with a realistic shot at GC, the contenders may be riding
with a little less than a full load anyway, and most importantly...
there is no Hinault.

Quoted message said:

IMO, the speed of the first week of the Tour is set by the escapees.
After the escape is made, the peloton settles down, as you say,
and then rides just as fast as necessary to catch the escapees
a few km before the finish, calibrating its effort to the speed of the
escapees. The peloton could go faster, but why? It's more work and
they don't want to catch the escapees too soon, or there will be new
attacks. So obviously, it's nothing to do with the GC guys; it's
last year's escapees that were doping.

Stage 8:

1 Sylvain Calzati (Fra) AG2R-Prevoyance
4.13.18 (42.784 km/h)

gym.gravity said:

1 Sylvain Calzati (Fra) AG2R-Prevoyance
4.13.18 (42.784 km/h)

and today, stage 9:

Provisional
1 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank 3.35.24 (47.214
km/h)

Looks like "the shipment" arrived

gym.gravity said:

gym.gravity said:

1 Sylvain Calzati (Fra) AG2R-Prevoyance
4.13.18 (42.784 km/h)

and today, stage 9:

Provisional
1 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank 3.35.24 (47.214
km/h)

Looks like "the shipment" arrived

The shipment came in the form of a tailwind.