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Danny Colyer said:

Richard Corfield said:

- Richard (computer design person, so honoury beard I think)

Hey, you're right. I'm a software analyst *and* I've got a ponytail, so maybe I don't need a
beard. I wonder if there's a trike club with an official rulebook to clarify that sort of thing.

I am getting worried about not having a beard, but riding the trice every day.

I sort of wondered if teh fact that when I did have a beard it was the type that occurred if you
simply stop shaving, trimming, or indeed using any bladed implements on the face would count - does
a raw beard like that leave an echo of beard even when it's removed from teh physical world? Also, I
was saving for a ponytail, but we went to a wedding and my wife cut it all off the week before so I
didn't spoil teh pictures (#4, apparently).

However, I am a part network administrator (though drifting PHB-wards), part programmer,
part structural analyst, part consultant, part other-stuff-too which ought to count for
something, surely?

And I still ride teh unicycle occasionally - so I must be sane.

regards, Ian SMith
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Danny Colyer said:

Richard Corfield said:

But surely the beard both increases weight and drag for the cyclist

The increase in weight is made up for by the *reduction* in drag, as the individual hairs create
little eddies that disrupt the airflow, much like the bumps on a shark's skin ;-P

Quoted message said:

- Richard (computer design person, so honoury beard I think)

Hey, you're right. I'm a software analyst *and* I've got a ponytail, so maybe I don't need a beard.
I wonder if there's a trike club with an official rulebook to clarify that sort of thing.

Yes. It's an FAQ on the Trike Association website. Something like "Is a beard compulsory?"
"No Madam"

Tim
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In space no one can eat ice cream

(Marc) said:

Arthur Clune said:

: [re beards] a similar "by". And indeed computer security people! ;-)

🙂

I'm holding out for now, but I do feel it's a rearguard action!

I wonder is it cause or effect? Do people that hate the idea of wasted effort buy recumbents and
grow beards, or is it that those that are too lazy to shave see the benefit of a recumbent in
allowing them to be lazier?

Shaving is a very, very irrational thing to do. It wastes an incredible amount of time; if not
repeated frequently and regularly it leaves you with stubble which is unpleasant both for you and
for anyone getting intimate with you; it damages your skin and frequently leads to small open
wounds; it leads to accelerated aging of the skin of the cheeks, giving you premature droopy jowls.
You end up looking pasty faced, unfit, and about twenty years older than your real age. Against all
that disadvantage, I can't think of a single advantage, but perhaps there is one.

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As much as I might disagree with his views, the ad hominem attacks here do no credit to the
attackers IMHO. Argue against his views if you like but do you really need to call someone ugly
and spod to make your case?

True enough, his 'road safety' views have already been discredited pretty thoroughly*, and whatever
he looked like he would be little more than a joke. But the picture is the only new toy to play
with, and you wouldn't want to deny us our bit of fun, would you?

James
* You won't be forgetting that he actually argued at length that it was better to drive faster so as
to reduce the chance of hitting something. Not to mention his laughable 'statistical analysis'
that was debunked ad nauseam.

W K said:

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"full time road safety campaigner" ?

Unemployable fool perhaps.

To quote the hero of the old game "Shadow Warrior"...

"Yoooooo rook rike yoo bin hit wi ugry stick !"

Gary

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Danny Colyer must be edykated coz e writed:

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Arthur Clune said:

Recumbent? Nah, he'd need a beard for that 🙂

Nonononono, you need a beard to ride a *trike*.

I grew one last month (not a trike, you understand, but a beard). Several people (including DW)
commented that it suited me. It was lovely and warm, and I thoroughly enjoyed not shaving. But it
had to come off because DW didn't like kissing it :-(

Ah well, there go my dreams of trike ownership.

Right, that's it! I'm getting you after school. (I was going to say Mr Smith had more than a passing
resemblance to Yoda, the ears and wizzened face did
it).

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W K said:

I know its stupid, but he never listened to the stuff that made sense. (hell, he did from time to
time, boy did I kick myself).

You've never experienced the infamous Mr V*nd****n then. The best way of dealing with these guys is
to ignore them in forums like this. Standing around puffing out your feathers amongst fellow
cyclists is not achieving anything. Take him on and expose the weakness of his arguements when he
presents them in the wider public as David Begg did in the North Wales Daily Post.

Quoted message said:

He's self referential, and does not realise he breaks rules of science that would shame a 10 year
old, and used to end up just calling me a [censored] whenever I got close to getting him to
understand that.

Demonstrating yet again that ad hominen attacks are the last resort of the lost cause.

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As for his appearance - he's responsable for the tie and the pony tail.

So are you the paragon of beauty with perfect dress sense? I trust you want to ridicule Danny Colyer
too for wearing a pony tail. As I said, ad hominen attacks are cheap, easy, do no credit to the
attacker and show a failure of their ability to argue their case.

Just my $0.02

Tony

James Annan said:

But the picture is the only new toy to play with, and you wouldn't want to deny us our bit of fun,
would you?

Yes I would. You wouldn't do it if it were other inherited features such as race or Down's so why is
it acceptable here?

Quoted message said:

* You won't be forgetting that he actually argued at length that it was better to drive faster so
as to reduce the chance of hitting something. Not to mention his laughable 'statistical
analysis' that was debunked ad nauseam.

Not at all. As I said I disagree with his views. But I disagree more strongly with people who use
personal appearance as a reason for ridicule and attack.

Tony

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"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain

"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

So are you the paragon of beauty with perfect dress sense? I trust you

want

Quoted message said:

to ridicule Danny Colyer too for wearing a pony tail.

It depends what you are up to.

If you're a juggler on a unicycle its an entirely appropriate image.

Should you be making false claims that you are a full time road safety campaigner, its not fitting.

W K said:

It depends what you are up to.

If you're a juggler on a unicycle its an entirely appropriate image.

Should you be making false claims that you are a full time road safety campaigner, its not
fitting.

Perhaps we need a Reich Chamber of Road Safety Campaigning to ensure that only people that look
right are allowed to do it.

Tony

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Dunno if anybody's actually paid, but you can find a few of his fans here ...

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A delightful messageboard covering the pro-motorist viewpoint, run by a charmless old curmugeon
who goes by the name of Bogush and appears to believe in some vast anti-car conspiracy.

He dislikes bikes and cyclists particularly.

Oh, that's where Bogush lives. I've seen some of his stuff elsewhere, and thought it was
pretty poor.

clive

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W K said:

It depends what you are up to.

If you're a juggler on a unicycle its an entirely appropriate image.

Should you be making false claims that you are a full time road safety campaigner, its not
fitting.

Perhaps we need a Reich Chamber of Road Safety Campaigning to ensure that only people that look
right are allowed to do it.

Jesus, lighten up. He's a usenet joke.

There's far worse aspects of the whole saga, that make me feel far more guilty about taking the [censored]
out of the guy.

I don't have a trike or a beard, but I do have a computery "job" and a ponytail (at least
while cycling). Has thought and examines winners of BHPC Multitrack Championship for the past
Several of Years:

2003: Ben Dickinson - ponytail
2004: Bob Knight - scarcely any hair at all
2005: Bob Knight
2006: Bob Knight
2007: Richard Everett - moustache only
2008: Chris Cox - entirely uneventful from the hair perspective
2009: Marcus Hunt - see "Chris Cox"
2010: The Mighty Tim Hayes - beard AND ponytail. Now THAT's more like it
2011: Ian Sheen - see "Marcus Hunt"

Oh dear.

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Marc said:

Does the dark side slow down metabolism?

I don't thin... z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z

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W K said:

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"full time road safety campaigner" ?

Unemployable fool perhaps.

Certainly interesting to put a face to the name.

And nice to see Professor Begg rides a bike. And without a helmet.

Colin

Zog The Undeniable said:

W K said:

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"full time road safety campaigner" ?

Unemployable fool perhaps.

Spod of the year!

He reminds me of Mr Logic from Viz. Though his grasp of statistics assures me that it can't be him.

Colin

W K said:

"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

So are you the paragon of beauty with perfect dress sense? I trust you

want

Quoted message said:

to ridicule Danny Colyer too for wearing a pony tail.

It depends what you are up to.

If you're a juggler on a unicycle its an entirely appropriate image.

Should you be making false claims that you are a full time road safety campaigner, its not
fitting.

Why the heck not? What has someone's appearance to do with what they do?

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'You cannot put "The Internet" into the Recycle Bin.'

Danny Colyer said:

Richard Corfield said:

But surely the beard both increases weight and drag for the cyclist

The increase in weight is made up for by the *reduction* in drag, as the individual hairs create
little eddies that disrupt the airflow, much like the bumps on a shark's skin ;-P

Quoted message said:

- Richard (computer design person, so honoury beard I think)

Hey, you're right. I'm a software analyst *and* I've got a ponytail, so maybe I don't need
a beard.

Hmm. Software Engineer, no beard, no ponytail. Maybe I've been listening to Joy Division for
too long now.

Colin

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W K said:

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"full time road safety campaigner" ?

Unemployable fool perhaps.

Certainly interesting to put a face to the name.

Younger and less 'Tory' than expected.

Quoted message said:

And nice to see Professor Begg rides a bike. And without a helmet.

Friendly looking ordinary Joe.

T

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yes, it took my wife to point out the ponytail - I just thought it was a very bizarre centre
parting.

cheers, clive

Is she sure? I thought those were his wires connecting him to his far-off planet.

Peter