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  1. | Emily Thornberry MP, Labour Chair of the House of Commons Cycling
    | Group, talks about the importance of cycling for health, and
    | creating cycle routes across Britain.

    Her web site cycling campaign page:
    <http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/Emily+Thornberry/bed21f83-8684-4e67-9ba2-79e5489c7cde.htm>

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    Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/
    "Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
    but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
    -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

  2. Alan J. Wylie said:

    | Emily Thornberry MP, Labour Chair of the House of Commons Cycling
    | Group, talks about the importance of cycling for health, and
    | creating cycle routes across Britain.

    Her web site cycling campaign page:
    <http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/Emily+Thornberry/bed21f83-8684-4e67-9ba2-79e5489c7cde.htm>


    Link from the programme for anyone who missed it:
    http://www.labour.org.uk/letstalkcycling

    --

    JimP

    " " - John Cage

  3. On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:50:24 +0100, [email hidden] (Alan J. Wylie) said:

    | Emily Thornberry MP, Labour Chair of the House of Commons Cycling
    | Group, talks about the importance of cycling for health, and
    | creating cycle routes across Britain.

    Quoted message said:

    Her web site cycling campaign page:
    <http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/Emily+Thornberry/bed21f83-8684-4e67-9ba2-79e5489c7cde.htm>

    * A thinly disguised party political broadcast.

    <Banner: "Labour">

    <A cyclist (not wearing a h****t) rides up to the camera>

    Hi, I'm Emily Thornbury. I'm the Labour MP for Islington South and
    Finsbury, and I'm a cyclist.

    Cycling is green and it's healthy and it's fun.

    It's been a huge success in London and the numbers of cyclists have
    gone up dramatically and we need to make sure that we replicate that
    success across the whole country. Labour's mayor, Ken Livingstone has
    introduced a number of things like cycle lanes, the congestion charge,
    all things that have helped to encourage people to get the confidence
    to get onto their bicycles and enjoy themselves. There's much more
    that the Government and Councils can do to make life easier for
    cyclists. One of the practical steps that they can do is things like
    this. Now this is secure bike parking in Finsbury Park provided by
    Transport for London. It's only been open for a few months and just
    look how popular it is.

    <An RFID card being used to open the gate to a secure compound>

    I am pressing to ensure that throughout Britain there are cycle
    facilities like this so whenever anybody cycles to a train station
    they can leave their bike somewhere where it will still be there when
    they come back.

    Whilst life has got much better in many ways for cyclists in London
    since 1997 when Labour came into power the fact of the matter is that
    only 1% of journeys across the country are done by bicycle, so we have
    to do more, so the Government has just announced that they are going
    to spend another £15M, and we are going to spend that money in two
    ways. First of all, 100 thousand 9, 10 and 11 year-olds are going to
    be taught how to cycle safely, and to proper national standards.

    <Lucy Nandris, Cycle Training UK>

    So, as Cycle Training UK, we go into primary schools, and deliver training to
    children in year 5 and 6. The most important things that they need to find out
    about are seeing, and being seen, and then communicating with other people on the
    roads, so all of this really helps them to be a much safer cyclist.

    <Emily Thornbury>

    A second tranch of money is going to be spent on demonstration
    towns. Now demonstration towns are going to be places like Exeter,
    Derby, Lancaster, Brighton and Hove, Aylesbury, places like that,
    where they are going to have money that they will be able to spend on
    best practice, on encouraging people to get onto their bicycles and get
    out and about.

    In Denmark, Holland and Germany, cycling is an ingrained part of the culture.
    Now why isn't that the case here? I'm talking about improving the environment,
    improving people's health and improving people's lives. Whilst the Conservatives
    and David Cameron may be famous for having their shoes chauffered to the House
    of Commons, Labour wants to make sure that Britons get on their bikes.

    http://www.labour.org.uk/letstalkcycling

    * There's a discussion forum at

    http://www.labour.org.uk/livechatcache.phtml

    --
    Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/
    "Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
    but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
    -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

  4. (Alan J. Wylie) said:

    * There's a discussion forum at

    http://www.labour.org.uk/livechatcache.phtml

    Some very sensible replies from Emily, on the subjects (so far) of
    compulsory helmets and cycling on pavements.

    --
    Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/
    "Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
    but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
    -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

  5. Jim Price said:
    Alan J. Wylie said:
    Quoted message said:

    Emily Thornberry MP, Labour Chair of the House of Commons Cycling
    Group, talks about the importance of cycling for health, and
    creating cycle routes across Britain.

    Her web site cycling campaign page:
    <http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/Emily+Thornberry/bed21f83-8684-4e67-9ba2-79e5489c7cde.htm>


    Link from the programme for anyone who missed it:
    http://www.labour.org.uk/letstalkcycling

    Now expired. A mere 2hours after the broadcast.

    Oh, well, I did wonder what our representatives were saying in response to
    questions, but I guess I only have Alan's transcript to go by.

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  6. Nigel Cliffe said:
    Jim Price said:

    Link from the programme for anyone who missed it:
    http://www.labour.org.uk/letstalkcycling

    Now expired. A mere 2hours after the broadcast.

    Oh, well, I did wonder what our representatives were saying in response to
    questions, but I guess I only have Alan's transcript to go by.

    Here is what was left lying around in my browser cache FWIW

    <don't know what the question was..>

    Reply from Emily:

    First of all, thanks for your support Sarah.
    They say that the average, regular cyclist has the general level of
    fitness of someone ten years younger.
    The government is already doing quite a lot as we showed in the film.
    But I'd be really keen to see cycling made part of the national
    curriculum. We need to change the culture and convert people when still
    young.

    Question from Sarah:

    emily - i could not agree with you more. I cycle to and from work - and
    indeed most everywhere else bar the shops - and it's a joy. Even when
    the traffic's bad you can get pleasure from overtaking cars at a
    standstill. And, apart from the pollution, there's health benefits too.

    How can the government encourage more people to take it up? It's so god
    damned good for you and the environment. And it's really good for kids
    as well.

    Reply from Emily:

    There is evidence from New South Wales, Australia that showed when
    helmets were made compulsory the levels of cycling fell by 36% in one
    year. With this in mind I don't think that making helmets compulsory is
    a good idea. All the stats I've seen show that the benefits of cycling
    outweigh the risks. So if helmets are a barrier to people getting on
    their bikes we have to think twice about making it compulsory. But I'd
    be interested to hear what other people out there think.

    Question Dave:

    What would be the impact on cycling levels if helmet wearing was made
    compulsory? Would the benefits outweight the costs?

    Reply from Emily:

    I'm a sponsor of the climate change bill. Transport emissions now
    represent 30% of the UK's carbon dioxide, up from 19% in the 1970s and
    cycling can play an important part in reducing this growing sector of
    our greenhouse gas output.

    The new Secretary of State for Transport, Douglas Alexander, when he
    gave evidence at the Environmental Audit Select Committee was very
    impressive on this subject. He seemed to be genuinely committed to
    tackling this issue and not scared of considering a number of radical
    solutions including road pricing.

    Question from Sarah:

    Good for you for highlighting cycling - a carbon and pollution free way
    of travelling in cities.

    I'm sure you are concerned that under Labour carbon emissions are going
    up not down. Wouldn't you therefore agree that at the first opportunity
    Parliament should pass a Climate Change Bill that sets up the framework
    to turn this around and get emissions going down year after year, rather
    than up? Will you ask Tony Blair to include this in the next Queen's Speech?

    Reply from Emily:

    The difficulty is that it is local authorities who have responsibility
    for roads. Whilst some like Oxford have put in excellent facilities,
    others (mainly Tory controlled ones!) are rubbish.

    I'd like to see what you're calling for and I'm happy to work with
    others to put pressure on government and local authorities to build
    cycle lanes as standard.

    Question from Steven:

    Cycle lanes should be included as standard in all new road building
    projects where possible. How can we encourage this type of co-ordinated
    approach to transport development?

    Reply from Emily:

    I make the point about cities outside London in the Channel 4 film just
    now. But there are places like Brighton and Hove and Aylesbury where the
    government has funded schemes to encourage cycling best practice and put
    in cycle routes.
    CTC - the national cyclist's organisation have a network of local
    campaigners who lobby transport authorities. You can find CTC at
    www.ctc.org.uk.

    You can also lobby effectively too by joining the Labour Party and
    working within it.

    Question from Ben:

    Do you think there are enough cycling routes in cities and town centres.

    I know London has really improved its cycling routes over the last five
    years, but where my parents live (a Tory council - quelle surprise!!!)
    there are still no dedicated cycle routes and many cities across the
    South and South East seem similarly underprovided for bikers.

    What can people do locally to lobby for dedicated cycle paths/get more
    safe routes to and from work?

    Question from Brian:

    I have noticed an increasing trend for cyclists - both young and old -
    to ride their bicycles on pavements. Some cyclists seem to not to
    realise that the proper place for their vehicles is on the roads!

    How can we persuade cyclists to use the roads correctly? Can we "make
    them" use the roads? I welcome the Government's increasing use of fixed
    penalties (I've seen them used successfully in Sheffield) which are
    helping to tackle those causing problems in our neighbourhoods and would
    like to see these used for those who commit motoring and cycling
    offences such as this. What do you think?

    Reply from Emily:

    Yes we should use fixed penalties to make people obey the law (although
    I believe that primary school children should be able to use pavements)
    but we should also look at why people are not using the roads.

    In the City of London they recently did a clampdown of cyclists not
    obeying the Highway Code. Two things were done. People were penalised,
    but they were also asked why it was that they were riding on certain
    parts of the pavement. The City has now looked into changing certain
    road layouts as a result.

    Question from David:

    What is being done to make drivers take more account of cyclists on the
    roads?

    Reply from Emily:

    There are more cyclists around and so, slowly, drivers are becoming more
    aware of cyclists, but I think it's too slow and I agree that more
    should be done. I'll write to Douglas Alexander, Secretary of State for
    Transport, about this.

    Question from Jamie:

    For the majority of people, cycling is only suitable for short journeys
    of up to about ten miles. In this country however we are lucky enough to
    have a good train network that can usually get you to within cycling
    distance of a destination. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to use
    this as most train operators only take 2 bikes, with the exception of
    the new virgin trains that take 4. I lost count a long time ago of how
    many times I have been refused taking my bike on trains because there
    are already to many bikes on there. If you want to encourage people to
    not use their cars so much, then you should impose regulations on train
    companies to allow more bikes on the trains.

    Don't tell me to talk to the train companies instead, as this does not
    work and I always get the same emails back saying thanks for your input,
    yet never see any output from them. What can be done about this?

    Cycling by train would encourage allot more people to use their bikes
    and public transport rather than polluting our planet with their cars.

    Please give me an answer as I am fed up with being ignored. Jamie

    Reply from Emily:

    I totally agree with you Jamie. In fact I put down an Early Day Motion
    in the House of Commons about this issue. 170 MPs have now signed this
    parliamentary petition.

    60% of the population live within 2miles of railway station. This could
    be an excellent opportunity for a 'doorstep to destination' green journey.

    Question from Rod:

    Two of the biggest indicators of a cycle friendly environment are the
    percentage children cycling to school and the how naturally people dress
    for cycling. Cycle friendly countries have lower speeds, just 18.5mph in
    residential areas, and far greater liabilities for motorists coming into
    contact with vulnerable road users. Both of these have been discouraged
    by the current government. LA's are unable to put in default 20mph
    without expensive vertical or horizontal calming and the government did
    not introduce the EEC insurance harmonisation which would have corrected
    the latter.

    Will the government therefore take steps to address both of these issues.

    Reply from Emily:

    Rod, you have made two excellent points. This is one of the reasons why
    I don't wear lycra(!) nor a helmet.

    20mph zones are a great way to encourage cycling.

    Question from Mark:

    Emily, The emergency services, particularly the Police, are returning to
    cycles as an effective means of response and community policing, some
    within your constituency. What is Labour doing to support and promote
    emergency services returning to two wheels.

    Reply from Emily:

    Community Support Officers are not given cars. They have to walk or go
    on bicycles. We are brining back 'bobbies on bikes'.

    Question from Carolyn:

    Dear Emily, about two weeks ago I had an appointment with some officials
    at the foreign office. unfortunately there was a fire drill on that day,
    and the meeting was delayed for over half an hour. I could not join my
    colleagues for a coffee because there is nowhere to park my bike near
    the foreign office. To make matters worse, when I was actually able to
    enter the building, I was told that I was not allowed to bring my bike
    in to the courtyard of the foreign office to park it. no-one was able to
    tell me why this was and I ended up meeting with the representative from
    the foreign office on the pavement.

    My question is, can you tell me as a political party rightly concerned
    with putting bike riding on the agenda, why you have no place for
    cyclists to park their bike in your very own offices.

    Not amused

    Reply from Emily:

    We are negotiating with Westminster Council and the various security
    services to install bike parking around Whitehall and Parliament for
    visitors. There is currently bike parking for staff only. This is not an
    example we should be setting.

    Question from John:

    How much money would I save if I cycled to work instead of driving? Is
    it worth my while?

    Reply from Emily:

    John, you can get 20p a mile for cycling to work if you encourage your
    employer to sign up to a government backed scheme brought in recently by
    Gordon Brown. You can also buy a bike at half price through tax-free,
    monthly deductions through your salary under the same scheme. Go to
    www.lcc.org.uk for more information about this.
    --

    JimP

    " " - John Cage

  7. Jim Price said:
    Nigel Cliffe said:
    Jim Price said:

    Link from the programme for anyone who missed it:
    http://www.labour.org.uk/letstalkcycling

    Now expired. A mere 2hours after the broadcast.

    Oh, well, I did wonder what our representatives were saying in
    response to questions, but I guess I only have Alan's transcript to
    go by.

    Here is what was left lying around in my browser cache FWIW

    Thanks for posting it.

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

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