I admit I didn't much like Floyd

Until a year or two from now we find that he is accused for doping and
the UCI bans him for 2 years just like the rest of the "heroes". It's
almost inevitable whether it's with merit or not. The French DO NOT
like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.

Bleh.

Tuschinski said:

1. He rides for a team that needs to be meticulously researched due to
reccuring cheating.
2. His teams decisions were quite stupid (Boogerd: They rode too
arrogant, glad Landis got a bad day)
3. In the mountainous stages he didn't took the inititiave and didn't
finish off the competition while he was by far the best.

Then he collapsed. I was quite amused... the punishment for trying to
be "smart". I read the interview and I was impressed about his fair
attitude. Points for Floyd.

But today: THANK YOU FLOYD

FINALLY you didn't suck wheel, but blindly took a risk and attacked!
You rode the best stage I ever saw (yes, you beat Chiapucci @
Sestrierre as he got space, you fought all day)

Quoted message said:

From now on I will be a fan and I think you converted many many more

today.

Thank you for showing me why I love pro-cycling so much.

"LeMonkey" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Until a year or two from now we find that he is accused for doping and
the UCI bans him for 2 years just like the rest of the "heroes". It's
almost inevitable whether it's with merit or not. The French DO NOT
like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.

Dear friend,

What a stupid comment.

It seems you are till angry because "we told you so" on Iraq.
It is not ? 😉

Quoted message said:

Bleh.

Tuschinski said:

1. He rides for a team that needs to be meticulously researched due to
reccuring cheating.
2. His teams decisions were quite stupid (Boogerd: They rode too
arrogant, glad Landis got a bad day)
3. In the mountainous stages he didn't took the inititiave and didn't
finish off the competition while he was by far the best.

Then he collapsed. I was quite amused... the punishment for trying to
be "smart". I read the interview and I was impressed about his fair
attitude. Points for Floyd.

But today: THANK YOU FLOYD

FINALLY you didn't suck wheel, but blindly took a risk and attacked!
You rode the best stage I ever saw (yes, you beat Chiapucci @
Sestrierre as he got space, you fought all day)

Quoted message said:

From now on I will be a fan and I think you converted many many more

today.

Thank you for showing me why I love pro-cycling so much.

Nah I'm just fed up with the media circus.

Of course I was generalizing :p

Montesquiou said:

"LeMonkey" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Until a year or two from now we find that he is accused for doping and
the UCI bans him for 2 years just like the rest of the "heroes". It's
almost inevitable whether it's with merit or not. The French DO NOT
like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.

Dear friend,

What a stupid comment.

It seems you are till angry because "we told you so" on Iraq.
It is not ? 😉

Quoted message said:

Bleh.

Tuschinski said:

1. He rides for a team that needs to be meticulously researched due to
reccuring cheating.
2. His teams decisions were quite stupid (Boogerd: They rode too
arrogant, glad Landis got a bad day)
3. In the mountainous stages he didn't took the inititiave and didn't
finish off the competition while he was by far the best.

Then he collapsed. I was quite amused... the punishment for trying to
be "smart". I read the interview and I was impressed about his fair
attitude. Points for Floyd.

But today: THANK YOU FLOYD

FINALLY you didn't suck wheel, but blindly took a risk and attacked!
You rode the best stage I ever saw (yes, you beat Chiapucci @
Sestrierre as he got space, you fought all day)

>From now on I will be a fan and I think you converted many many more
today.

Thank you for showing me why I love pro-cycling so much.

"LeMonkey" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...
Nah I'm just fed up with the media circus.

Of course I was generalizing :p

====

I too, of course😉

Montesquiou said:

"LeMonkey" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Until a year or two from now we find that he is accused for doping and
the UCI bans him for 2 years just like the rest of the "heroes". It's
almost inevitable whether it's with merit or not. The French DO NOT
like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.

Dear friend,

What a stupid comment.

It seems you are till angry because "we told you so" on Iraq.
It is not ? 😉

Quoted message said:

Bleh.

Tuschinski said:

1. He rides for a team that needs to be meticulously researched due to
reccuring cheating.
2. His teams decisions were quite stupid (Boogerd: They rode too
arrogant, glad Landis got a bad day)
3. In the mountainous stages he didn't took the inititiave and didn't
finish off the competition while he was by far the best.

Then he collapsed. I was quite amused... the punishment for trying to
be "smart". I read the interview and I was impressed about his fair
attitude. Points for Floyd.

But today: THANK YOU FLOYD

FINALLY you didn't suck wheel, but blindly took a risk and attacked!
You rode the best stage I ever saw (yes, you beat Chiapucci @
Sestrierre as he got space, you fought all day)

>From now on I will be a fan and I think you converted many many more
today.

Thank you for showing me why I love pro-cycling so much.

Tuschinski said:

1. He rides for a team that needs to be meticulously researched due to
reccuring cheating.
2. His teams decisions were quite stupid (Boogerd: They rode too
arrogant, glad Landis got a bad day)
3. In the mountainous stages he didn't took the inititiave and didn't
finish off the competition while he was by far the best.

Then he collapsed. I was quite amused... the punishment for trying to
be "smart". I read the interview and I was impressed about his fair
attitude. Points for Floyd.

But today: THANK YOU FLOYD

FINALLY you didn't suck wheel, but blindly took a risk and attacked!
You rode the best stage I ever saw (yes, you beat Chiapucci @
Sestrierre as he got space, you fought all day)

Quoted message said:

From now on I will be a fan and I think you converted many many more

today.

Thank you for showing me why I love pro-cycling so much.

My favorite part was when he rode wheel-sucker Sinkewitz right off of
him. I thought that was beautifully symbolic of his emergence.

Montesquiou said:

"LeMonkey" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Until a year or two from now we find that he is accused for doping and
the UCI bans him for 2 years just like the rest of the "heroes". It's
almost inevitable whether it's with merit or not. The French DO NOT
like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.

Dear friend,

What a stupid comment.

It seems you are till angry because "we told you so" on Iraq.
It is not ? 😉

Two wrongs do not make a... whatever.

I won't be at all surprised if Flandis gets skewered with a doping scandal.

Of course the French were right on Iraq. Lots of Americans were too,
just not the ones in charge.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

sonarrat said:

My favorite part was when he rode wheel-sucker Sinkewitz right off of
him. I thought that was beautifully symbolic of his emergence.

It was cool, but you know wheel-sucker Sinkewitz was
doing his job as a professional. If Sinkewitz had gone
to the front for even five seconds, RBR strategists would
be pointing at it as an example of bad T-Mobile tactics.
"Wheel-sucker" should be an honorific, if not quite a
Homeric epithet.

Ben
wheelsucker

"Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Of course the French were right on Iraq. Lots of Americans were too, just
not the ones in charge.

You mean the one's that voted in a majority in the House, the Senate, the
Presidency, most state legislatures and most Governorships? Those Americans?

Or the losers who are busy telling everyone one else how wrong they are.

Say, didn't you guys all look the other way when Nixon took your advice and
4 million innocent civilians were tortured and murdered by the communist
regimes in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos?

Quoted message said:

"Wheel-sucker" should be an honorific, if not quite a
Homeric epithet.

Hey I take great pride in my wheelsucking skills. Not letting go is a
super-motivator for me. In fact I have been called a biter. I think
that, if anything, is what makes me a "sprinter".

E.
sprinters are cyclists who can't climb or time-trial

--
E. Dronkert

Quoted message said:

sonarrat said:

My favorite part was when he rode wheel-sucker Sinkewitz right off of
him. I thought that was beautifully symbolic of his emergence.

It was cool, but you know wheel-sucker Sinkewitz was
doing his job as a professional. If Sinkewitz had gone
to the front for even five seconds, RBR strategists would
be pointing at it as an example of bad T-Mobile tactics.
"Wheel-sucker" should be an honorific, if not quite a
Homeric epithet.

Wait... So you're saying someone on the T-Mobile squad actually
used common-sense tactics??? Why should they bother to change now?
I mean, these are the guys that have chased down their own attacker
in two successive Tours...

~bob

bob sullivan said:

Quoted message said:

sonarrat said:

My favorite part was when he rode wheel-sucker Sinkewitz right off of
him. I thought that was beautifully symbolic of his emergence.

It was cool, but you know wheel-sucker Sinkewitz was
doing his job as a professional. If Sinkewitz had gone
to the front for even five seconds, RBR strategists would
be pointing at it as an example of bad T-Mobile tactics.
"Wheel-sucker" should be an honorific, if not quite a
Homeric epithet.

Wait... So you're saying someone on the T-Mobile squad actually
used common-sense tactics??? Why should they bother to change now?
I mean, these are the guys that have chased down their own attacker
in two successive Tours...

~bob

OK, then, the vote is in. Wheelsucking is honorific for rbr and
Homeric for T-Mobile. (BTW, the first time I heard Homeric actually
used was in 'The Quiet Man' and I had to replay it three times many
years later to finally understand what the little guy was saying.)

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Quoted message said:

sonarrat said:

My favorite part was when he rode wheel-sucker Sinkewitz right off of
him. I thought that was beautifully symbolic of his emergence.

It was cool, but you know wheel-sucker Sinkewitz was
doing his job as a professional. If Sinkewitz had gone
to the front for even five seconds, RBR strategists would
be pointing at it as an example of bad T-Mobile tactics.
"Wheel-sucker" should be an honorific, if not quite a
Homeric epithet.

Ben
wheelsucker

Of course. I'm not criticizing Sinkewitz for the strategy he took,
which was absolutely correct and smart. But if you suck wheel for that
long and still have to let go...

Tom Kunich said:

"Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Of course the French were right on Iraq. Lots of Americans were too, just
not the ones in charge.

You mean the one's that voted in a majority in the House, the Senate, the
Presidency, most state legislatures and most Governorships? Those Americans?

I mean the sizable minority who thought it was wrong or merely a bad
idea, whether in concept or in execution. I was one.

Quoted message said:

Or the losers who are busy telling everyone one else how wrong they are.

Feels like a win to me if you're taking that kind of score. I told you so.

Quoted message said:

Say, didn't you guys all look the other way when Nixon took your advice and
4 million innocent civilians were tortured and murdered by the communist
regimes in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos?

I was 8. But how fitting that you dredge up Vietnam, and how ironic that
the father exorcises the ghost of Vietnam and the son resurrects it.
Thanks Shrub!

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

sonarrat said:

My favorite part was when he rode wheel-sucker Sinkewitz right off of
him. I thought that was beautifully symbolic of his emergence.

I think Sinkewitz dropped back per team direction. He obviously sat up,
presumably waiting for teammates to catch up.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

But au contraire, the French will love Landis, he showed he was human,
faillible, and doesn't even speak a word of French, unlike an inhuman,
infaillible,
French speaking winner who didn't support the war in Iraq.

-ilan

LeMonkey said:

Until a year or two from now we find that he is accused for doping and
the UCI bans him for 2 years just like the rest of the "heroes". It's
almost inevitable whether it's with merit or not. The French DO NOT
like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.

I love pro-cycling so much.

Just so you can feel better about yourself try reading a little history.

Here's what the effects of Iraq have been - NO OTHER COUNTRIES have gone to
war against Israel this time around. They are taking care of the Hezbollah
and the Hamas terrorists and you don't see Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia,
Egypt. Lebannon and Libya going to war against them.

Iraq has shown them that they have no chance of winning and they have every
political advantage to lose.

In 50 years they'll be writing books about Bush's strategy and how well it
worked.

But right after I post this you'll be denying it all.

Tom Kunich said:

Just so you can feel better about yourself try reading a little history.

Here's what the effects of Iraq have been - NO OTHER COUNTRIES have gone to
war against Israel this time around. They are taking care of the Hezbollah
and the Hamas terrorists and you don't see Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia,
Egypt. Lebannon and Libya going to war against them.

You're ahead of the talking points here. The Shrubbery haven't gotten
around to asserting the current "peace" as one of the changing reasons
we invaded Iraq. Yet.

Quoted message said:

Iraq has shown them that they have no chance of winning and they have every
political advantage to lose.

In 50 years they'll be writing books about Bush's strategy and how well it
worked.

But right after I post this you'll be denying it all.

Because you're wrong. But hey, if the MidEast is peaceful in fifty
years, I'll admit you're right.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
the most insidious of traitors."
George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The French DO NOT

like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.
<<

The French near the finish of Stage 17 were wildly cheering for Landis.

Vive la France.

They don't hate America afterall. They just hate GWB.

They've got company on the latter.

- Larry Weisenthal

See? SEE??? :p

LeMonkey said:

Until a year or two from now we find that he is accused for doping and
the UCI bans him for 2 years just like the rest of the "heroes". It's
almost inevitable whether it's with merit or not. The French DO NOT
like those that do well and will work hard to knock them down, much
like the British and their celebrities. It sells newspapers after all.

Bleh.

Tuschinski said:

1. He rides for a team that needs to be meticulously researched due to
reccuring cheating.
2. His teams decisions were quite stupid (Boogerd: They rode too
arrogant, glad Landis got a bad day)
3. In the mountainous stages he didn't took the inititiave and didn't
finish off the competition while he was by far the best.

Then he collapsed. I was quite amused... the punishment for trying to
be "smart". I read the interview and I was impressed about his fair
attitude. Points for Floyd.

But today: THANK YOU FLOYD

FINALLY you didn't suck wheel, but blindly took a risk and attacked!
You rode the best stage I ever saw (yes, you beat Chiapucci @
Sestrierre as he got space, you fought all day)

Quoted message said:

From now on I will be a fan and I think you converted many many more

today.

Thank you for showing me why I love pro-cycling so much.