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  1. Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    astro-turf.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    astro-turf.

    It was to [censored] people like you and me.

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    astro-turf.

    I don't know what the official reason was or even if it was debated but
    to me the question arises; do you want the best rider to win or the
    rider with the best team? While having a strong team can never be
    neutralized, its effect can be diminished somewhat.

    Phil H

  4. MMan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    astro-turf.

    It was to [censored] people like you and me.

    This is a bit like asking "Why didn't the Tour go up
    Mont Ventoux this year?" While there was a TTT
    every year from 2000-2005, there was no TTT from
    1996-1999. So the reason there was no TTT is because
    there doesn't have to be a TTT. Other rationales and
    conspiracy theories about favoring this team or that
    are subsidiary. They may be real, but also, ASO just
    likes to change the event around now and then to keep
    people's attention. See? It's working.

    Ben
    Marketing Specialist 2nd Class

  5. Quoted message said:
    MMan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    astro-turf.

    It was to [censored] people like you and me.

    This is a bit like asking "Why didn't the Tour go up
    Mont Ventoux this year?" While there was a TTT
    every year from 2000-2005, there was no TTT from
    1996-1999. So the reason there was no TTT is because
    there doesn't have to be a TTT. Other rationales and
    conspiracy theories about favoring this team or that
    are subsidiary. They may be real, but also, ASO just
    likes to change the event around now and then to keep
    people's attention. See? It's working.

    Well, I was being a bit facetious (about them doing it to [censored] me off),
    but the point is they *always* have ITTs, many flat stages, many
    mountain stages, but not always a TTT. Its' a legitimate form of
    race, a legitimate part of a stage race (remember that stage races
    normally don't accept unattached competitors; certainly the TdF
    doesn't!), and they have 21 stages to play with.

    If they want to change it around, how about finishing someplace other
    than Paris?

  6. in message <[email hidden]>,

    (') said:

    Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    astro-turf.

    Some thought goes into planning the route of the Tour de France so as not
    to play to the strengths of the expected strongest teams. It was
    expected that T-Mobile/Ullrich and (to a lesser extent) CSC/Basso would
    romp away from the field. As it turned out, neither of them rode, but
    considering the two individual time trials as 'virtual' team time
    trials, T-Mo were awesome. Only one T-Mo rider was slower than the
    fastest Disco rider in the first time trial.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat.

  7. in 522953 20060814 173115 'MMan said:
    Quoted message said:
    MMan said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    > years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    > explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    > astro-turf.

    It was to [censored] people like you and me.

    This is a bit like asking "Why didn't the Tour go up
    Mont Ventoux this year?" While there was a TTT
    every year from 2000-2005, there was no TTT from
    1996-1999. So the reason there was no TTT is because
    there doesn't have to be a TTT. Other rationales and
    conspiracy theories about favoring this team or that
    are subsidiary. They may be real, but also, ASO just
    likes to change the event around now and then to keep
    people's attention. See? It's working.

    Well, I was being a bit facetious (about them doing it to [censored] me off),
    but the point is they *always* have ITTs, many flat stages, many
    mountain stages, but not always a TTT. Its' a legitimate form of
    race, a legitimate part of a stage race (remember that stage races
    normally don't accept unattached competitors; certainly the TdF
    doesn't!), and they have 21 stages to play with.

    If they want to change it around, how about finishing someplace other
    than Paris?

    I agree - how about L'Alpe d'Huez ?

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Martin said:
    in 522953 20060814 173115 'MMan said:
    Quoted message said:

    MMan wrote:
    > [email hidden] wrote:
    > > Can someone please explain why there was no team time trial in this
    > > years tour? When the course was announced I heard a rambling
    > > explanation left me about as confused as a heard of cows grazing on
    > > astro-turf.
    >
    > It was to [censored] people like you and me.

    This is a bit like asking "Why didn't the Tour go up
    Mont Ventoux this year?" While there was a TTT
    every year from 2000-2005, there was no TTT from
    1996-1999. So the reason there was no TTT is because
    there doesn't have to be a TTT. Other rationales and
    conspiracy theories about favoring this team or that
    are subsidiary. They may be real, but also, ASO just
    likes to change the event around now and then to keep
    people's attention. See? It's working.

    Well, I was being a bit facetious (about them doing it to [censored] me off),
    but the point is they *always* have ITTs, many flat stages, many
    mountain stages, but not always a TTT. Its' a legitimate form of
    race, a legitimate part of a stage race (remember that stage races
    normally don't accept unattached competitors; certainly the TdF
    doesn't!), and they have 21 stages to play with.

    If they want to change it around, how about finishing someplace other
    than Paris?

    I agree - how about L'Alpe d'Huez ?

    Or Detroit.

    --
    Michael Press

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