Fat guys bike and bike seat.

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Fat guys bike and bike seat.

Ok, here is what I am deducing from the postings in this group about my problem.

Most of the people posting are normal size and ride all the time. Most of the bike seats are made
for those people, which is understandable because there is a larger market for these. They are
trying their best to help, but don't have a real handle on the problem.

Imagine for one moment that you took your seat off of your bike and rode around sitting on just
the post. Now you know where us really fat guys are coming from. That is what it feels like for us
to sit on a normal bicycle seat.

One good bump and you need to visit your proctologist to assist in your dismount, if you get
my point.

A lot of bicycles are built for speed/weight. To achieve this they make the bikes lighter. That is
why some of the bike seats are no bigger than my computer mouse. If you weight 350 lbs, cutting 7
or so ounces off the total weight a seat is nothing. You will never notice
it. But you sure notice the pain you get from using it.

When I was a kid I had a banana seat with spider handle bars. I loved that bike, and haven't been
able to fine anything I've cared for since. I was a normal size kid, and road it everywhere, all
the time.

When 10 speeds came out, I got one and hated it. I hate having my butt up higher than my head, and
slumped over. I ride for the fun. I want to sit and watch the road and my surroundings and not try
and shave .0001 seconds off my personal speed. It seemed they were built with wind resistance in
mind. I don't care about wind resistance.

I know some of you are thinking that what this fat guy wants is a recliner that he can peddle. No
not really, but you maybe on to something. Just something that I can sit on and concentrate on the

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butt.

I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.

If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you.

Check out "downhill" saddles -- long, heavy, a bit wider than "regular" ones (sorta like miniature
banana seats) -- affectionately known as Barcoloungers.

Bill "but(t) it still matters where your sit bones are" S.

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(Walter) said:

If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you.

Look into recumbent bikes/trikes. At least, don't dismiss them. But 400 lbs really is a lot of load
on just about any production bike, except maybe tandems.

cheers, Tom

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On 8 Oct 2003 15:48:47 -0700, [email hidden] (Walter) from

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I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.

You would do better dropping about 100 poundsd or more before riding.

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While much of what you wrote is is nonsense, imo, what you likely are looking for is Revive:

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I wrote one of these....very comfortable riding position. However, you will feel as if you are 70
years old....if you're like me, that is...

Walter wrote:
:: Fat guys bike and bike seat.
::
:: Ok, here is what I am deducing from the postings in this group about my problem.
::
:: Most of the people posting are normal size and ride all the time. Most of the bike seats are made
:: for those people, which is understandable because there is a larger market for these. They are
:: trying their best to help, but don't have a real handle on the problem.
::
:: Imagine for one moment that you took your seat off of your bike and rode around sitting on just
:: the post. Now you know where us really fat guys are coming from. That is what it feels like for
:: us to sit on a normal bicycle seat.
::
:: One good bump and you need to visit your proctologist to assist in your dismount, if you get
:: my point.
::
:: A lot of bicycles are built for speed/weight. To achieve this they make the bikes lighter. That
:: is why some of the bike seats are no bigger than my computer mouse. If you weight 350 lbs,
:: cutting 7 or so ounces off the total weight a seat is nothing. You will never notice it. But you
:: sure notice the pain you get from using it.
::
:: When I was a kid I had a banana seat with spider handle bars. I loved that bike, and haven't been
:: able to fine anything I've cared for since. I was a normal size kid, and road it everywhere, all
:: the time.
::
:: When 10 speeds came out, I got one and hated it. I hate having my butt up higher than my head,
:: and slumped over. I ride for the fun. I want to sit and watch the road and my surroundings and
:: not try and shave .0001 seconds off my personal speed. It seemed they were built with wind
:: resistance in mind. I don't care about wind resistance.
::
:: I know some of you are thinking that what this fat guy wants is a recliner that he can
:: peddle. No not really, but you maybe on to something. Just something that I can sit on and
:: concentrate on the

:: butt.
::
:: I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.
::
:: If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you.
::
:: thanks

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Fat guys bike and bike seat.

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If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you.

thanks

Walter,

I'm 6'3 and 280. I have the same problem as you. I have loved riding all my life, but my size always
presented problems and limited my mileage. Last year I rode 4000 miles on this

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These bikes work wonderfully for me and you should at least give them a test ride. One that would
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but there are many others.

Best of luck whichever way you go.

Bill Meacham Mesa, AZ

I am only about 250 now. but when I first got my racing bike it had a narrow specialized seat a one
mile ride was agony. I got a soft seat and used it for about 2 or three weeks then went back to the
hard seat. better but not perfect. a flatter seat is needed. but it needs to be narrow or your
crotch will get rubbed raw.

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a flatter seat is needed. but it needs to be narrow or your crotch will get rubbed raw.

That's pretty much how i like 'em, too -- little or no cantle, and a longish, narrow nose to steer
no-hands with.

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(Walter) said:

If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you.

Look into recumbent bikes/trikes. At least, don't dismiss them. But 400 lbs really is a lot of
load on just about any production bike, except maybe tandems.

cheers, Tom

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Most recumbent bike manufactured have 275 pound max weight limit (RANS, Burley), Lightning makes a
heavy duty version of their recumbents (but still that only 300 max). EasyRacers doesn't list their
max weight limit.

Another option is recumbent trikes (Try Greenspeed, Organic engine, WheelWiz, Hellbent cycles, etc)
which you can order heavy duty and their weight limits sometimes go up as high as 440 lbs. Their
wheels are only 20" (which are sturdier than 700s) and they have three of them--I guess that's why
they can handle a heavier load.

Brian

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On 8 Oct 2003 15:48:47 -0700, [email hidden] (Walter) from

url='http://groups.google.com/'http://groups.google.com/url said:

I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.

You would do better dropping about 100 poundsd or more before riding.

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Before you dismiss this as a dis, it's a good idea. I would advocate a low carb, moderate protein,
moderate good fat diet. I lost 80lbs in about 7 months and b/c of a bad hip injury, couldn't do much
physical exercise but walking with strider poles, but cutting out all sugar, white carbs, and eating
salmon and green beans, alternated with some kind of beef and chicken, mostly. After about 5-10 days
you lose your urge to eat carbs.

Then a bike is a good idea. The advantage of strider poles is that it works arms and legs if you
push off. You'll get more caloric expenditure in an hour of poling then in struggling with a bike
for 20 min a day at that weight.

But it looks like the seat to get was suggested earlier.

Just trying to offer a data point that works for some.

For some, lowcarbing will give you an even faster loss if you're 350, and I'd say 100lbs in a year
is not at all unheard of if you've never done the low carb route.

Please no flames. I'll only say it once. I'm not a low-carb zealot. ;-)

-B

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Steve Knight wrote:
:: I am only about 250 now. but when I first got my racing bike it had a narrow specialized seat a
:: one mile ride was agony. I got a soft seat and used it for about 2 or three weeks then went back
:: to the hard seat. better but not perfect. a flatter seat is needed. but it needs to be narrow or
:: your crotch will get rubbed raw.
::

I weigh 250 and I ride with one of those body geometry seats on my specialized road/touring
bike. I've been out for 17 mile rides without too much discomforted. You want to move your butt
on the seat....

[email hidden] (Walter) spake thusly on or about Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:47 UTC

-> I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone -> between 350 and 400
lbs. -> -> If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you. ->

been 400 been 350 now just over 300. all on an oem Marin saddle. the saddle needs to fit the sit
bones not the fat ass.

quit whining and ride and when yer butt hurts stand for a while.
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I'm a fat lady, 200 lb+ at 5'7". When I first started learning to ride my bike last year, I was
sodomized by the saddle and nearly gave up in pain. Two things helped. First, I learned to position
myself better on the seat (this "sit-bone" business), but if you're an experienced rider that
probably is not an issue for you. Then, I bought a big fat comfort saddle for women.

Have you thought of trying a woman's saddle? Female arses tend to get a lot broader than male ones,
and women's saddles are generally much wider than those cruel looking spears I see on men's bikes.
There's also
psychologically more of a will on the part of manufacturers to provide ease and comfort for women.
Men are assumed to be testosterone driven speed freaks..

Elisa Francesca Roselli Ile de France

Walter said:

Fat guys bike and bike seat.

I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.

If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you.

For a wider saddle, check out the Brooks line. Brooks makes leather saddles which are wider than the
norm, which are considered quite comfortable by those who ride them. Some of them even have springs.

Walter said:

Most of the people posting are normal size and ride all the time. Most of the bike seats are made
for those people, which is understandable because there is a larger market for these. They are
trying their best to help, but don't have a real handle on the problem.

I disagree. As you'll seen in other posts, I started biking at 400lbs. and lost 150lbs. biking and
eating a healthy vegetarian diet. And I rode a stock seat on a Trek 4300. That was the bike I lost
most of the weight on. The keys are...

A - Don't be afraid to get someone to make you a custom wheel, because the wheel is what is going to
give you the biggest problem at that weight, but on a mountain bike this won't be a problem.

B - Get a bigger seat if you want, but I've found the smaller seats to be more comfortable than
bigger seats, just so long as you're riding on your sit bones (ask someone at your local shop about
this) rather than your crotch.

Otherwise, the rest of what you wrote is nonesense. Trust me. I've been there.

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I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.

If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear from you.

My advice, which runs contrary to all your assumptions, but I'm going to give it anyway, because
I've been where you've been, but worse is to...

#1 - Go get an entry level mountain bike (like a Trek 4300), preferably
without shocks, because at that price level shocks are crappy and stupid and waste energy unless
you're mountain biking.

#2 - Put slick tires on the bike so the ride isn't so bumpy. This will
help with the discomfort more than changing out the seat.

#3 - If you don't like the seat, buy like a Specialized Body Geometry
seat. They have a couple models that force you to sit on your sit bones instead of your butt or your
crotch. This is much more comfortable and is the proper place to ride.

#4 - Enjoy riding your bike. If you have the right attitude about it,
there may be a *little* pain, but the gain is worth it.

Preston

Kevan Smith said:

On 8 Oct 2003 15:48:47 -0700, [email hidden] (Walter) from

url='http://groups.google.com/'http://groups.google.com/url said:

I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.

You would do better dropping about 100 poundsd or more before riding.

Disagree, COMPLETELY. As I said in another post, do you remember when I joined this group? I rode my
bike at a fat 400lbs.

Note: This is not me at 400, just me on the way up towards 400
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Now I'm 250lbs. and very strong.

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I didn't wait to exercise, I just went and did it and I lost the weight quickly. Diet and exercise,
as they say.

Preston

Badger South said:

Before you dismiss this as a dis, it's a good idea. I would

Not in my opinion.

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Please no flames. I'll only say it once. I'm not a low-carb zealot. ;-)

I disagree. I think this is a terrible idea. I started biking at 400lbs. and changed my diet from an
unhealthy diet, to healthy vegetarian diet. I promptly lost 150lbs. and totally remade my body.

Just my experience. Not that your is "wrong", but I just disagree. I did it my way the exact
opposite. I started exercising at 400lbs. and I became a vegetarian (high carbs, just quality carbs)
and I lost 150lbs in just over a year and 3 months.

Preston

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Kevan Smith said:

On 8 Oct 2003 15:48:47 -0700, [email hidden] (Walter) from

url='http://groups.google.com/'http://groups.google.com/url said:

I'm looking for a bike and seat that I can ride that will hold someone between 350 and 400 lbs.

You would do better dropping about 100 poundsd or more before riding.

Disagree, COMPLETELY. As I said in another post, do you remember when I joined this group? I rode
my bike at a fat 400lbs.

Note: This is not me at 400, just me on the way up towards 400
prestoncrawford.commebig1.jpgOpen ↗

Now I'm 250lbs. and very strong.

prestoncrawford.comme.jpgOpen ↗

I didn't wait to exercise, I just went and did it and I lost the weight quickly. Diet and exercise,
as they say.

Preston

Dude. You Rule!

Best, -B

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Badger South said:

Before you dismiss this as a dis, it's a good idea. I would

Not in my opinion.

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Please no flames. I'll only say it once. I'm not a low-carb zealot. ;-)

I disagree. I think this is a terrible idea. I started biking at 400lbs. and changed my diet from
an unhealthy diet, to healthy vegetarian diet. I promptly lost 150lbs. and totally remade my body.

Just my experience. Not that your is "wrong", but I just disagree. I did it my way the exact
opposite. I started exercising at 400lbs. and I became a vegetarian (high carbs, just quality
carbs) and I lost 150lbs in just over a year and 3 months.

Preston

That's cool man. Good on you. It works (mine) if you have some IR, and are a carb addict.

Bear in mind vegetarians still eat junk food, but in your case you didn't.

Did you keep it off? It has to be a way of life thing.

I seem to thive extremely well off almost all detectable carbs, except some incidental in milk,
cheese, and dark green low GI vegs. Some ppl get headaches, or get lethargic. I'm more energetic,
and active.

I sleep about 5 hrs per night when I'm doing it strictly, and my mild gastric reflux stops, and it
improves my skin. I had a little patch of psoriasis that had been resistant to cortisone, and a
little athlete's foot. That's completely gone.

That's why I try not to proselytize much as I can.

It's all calories in calories out. If you have a bit of carbo-addiction predeliction, cutting them
cuts your appetite.

That helps me stay on track...

Best,

-B

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Badger South said:

Dude. You Rule!

Best,

Thanks. Do you like that second picture? That's me still wearing my fat guy 6x clothes (for a while
I didn't want to buy new clothes, I was too cheap). So like it's buttoned all the way to the top and
I still have a few inches of space.

Preston