Gatlin agrees to 8-year ban Avoids lifetime penalty in exchange for cooperation with doping authorities:
Sprinter Justin Gatlin agreed to an eight-year ban from track and field Tuesday, avoiding a lifetime penalty in exchange for his cooperation with doping authorities and because of the “exceptional circumstances” surrounding his first positive drug test.
He will forfeit the world record he tied in May, when he ran the 100 meters in 9.77 seconds...
Wow only 8 years ! just think he can go off get a degree, then do a masters, then a PhD, then write a thesis, then start training again and be ready for the London Olympics in 2012.... ! 8 years is just the same as life ban.... he's career is over...... what the ?
helmutRoole2 said:
From the AP wire:
Gatlin agrees to 8-year ban Avoids lifetime penalty in exchange for cooperation with doping authorities:
Sprinter Justin Gatlin agreed to an eight-year ban from track and field Tuesday, avoiding a lifetime penalty in exchange for his cooperation with doping authorities and because of the “exceptional circumstances” surrounding his first positive drug test.
He will forfeit the world record he tied in May, when he ran the 100 meters in 9.77 seconds...
He might need some "assistance" to regain his previous level of fitness and allow him to compete against riders half his age but hey!...life's a challenge!
He would only be 42 years old...plenty of time to start again.
Two interesting points from the article: (Landis take note of first point and the 987 posters on this forum who say Floyd is innocent) [font=Verdana] 1. “To his credit, it’s recognition that [/font][font=Verdana]the science is reliable[/font][font=Verdana],” USADA general counsel Travis Tygart told The Associated Press. “Instead of wasting a bunch of resources attempting to create smoke where there’s not any, he’s acknowledging the accuracy of the positive test, and in exchange for his agreement to cooperate, we’ve recognized the nature of his first offense.”[/font]
[font=Verdana] 2. USADA looks at this as a significant compromise — and the arbitration process could bring Gatlin back much sooner than eight years.[/font] - Scary ! He maybe back by next week if USADA has anything to do with it !
Two interesting points from the article: (Landis take note of first point and the 987 posters on this forum who say Floyd is innocent) [font=Verdana] 1. “To his credit, it’s recognition that [/font][font=Verdana]the science is reliable[/font][font=Verdana],” USADA general counsel Travis Tygart told The Associated Press. “Instead of wasting a bunch of resources attempting to create smoke where there’s not any, he’s acknowledging the accuracy of the positive test, and in exchange for his agreement to cooperate, we’ve recognized the nature of his first offense.”[/font]
[font=Verdana] 2. USADA looks at this as a significant compromise — and the arbitration process could bring Gatlin back much sooner than eight years.[/font] - Scary ! He maybe back by next week if USADA has anything to do with it !
Gaitlin - like Powell, like Montgomery, like White and like Maid Marion - initially denied doping. He said two weeks ago "I never took testosterone". Now, it seems he has a change of heart and has admitted taking testosterone and acknowledges the accuracy of the test. That's big of him!
There should be no compromise with this guy - he should be banned for life.
Gaitlin - like Powell, like Montgomery, like White and like Maid Marion - initially denied doping. He said two weeks ago "I never took testosterone". Now, it seems he has a change of heart and has admitted taking testosterone and acknowledges the accuracy of the test. That's big of him!
There should be no compromise with this guy - he should be banned for life.
There should be no compromise with this guy - he should be banned for life.
[font=Verdana]Lim I agree with you but I think we have seen a seachange in the last year in doping. For the first time in a long time its becoming ok for athletes to talk about doping. Life bans and the like should be enforced but for the moment several riders and other athletes are starting to open up and not face the ridicule of their peers. When Armstrong put the “cone of silence” on Bassons on Simonei some of us thought he was protecting the peleton. Well we know now that it wasn't protection of the peleton but protection of Armstrong inc. He needed cycling to appear clean so he could appear clean. (more books, endorsments etc.)
I'm ok with Galtin receiving a reduced ban if it gets people talking... plea bargaining ([font=Verdana]allocute) [/font]is an acceptable part of the law... in exchange for solid evidence the accused can get a lighter sentence and stop a 12 month legal cycle that helps no-one (especially tax payers or federations money - which is better spent on development of youth)... that’s a good thing....
Imagine if Landis came forward and spoke exactly how the Fuentes network operated. Imagine if it cleaned the sport out of 20 other riders but more importantly cleaned up the dodgy doctors, dodgy DS's and dodgy masseurs and got them away from the sport...imagine if 20 new drugs that were previously undetectable now became detectable… Imagine if the younger riders didn't have to feel the pressure from the elder statesmen from the EPO days... its a good thing and if Landis got a one year ban for it I'd be all for it... the last thing we want is a Darrel Hair situation where the letter of the law is applied every single time without an opportunity for conmen sense or the spirit of the competition to prevail.....[/font][font=Verdana][/font]
Two interesting points from the article: (Landis take note of first point and the 987 posters on this forum who say Floyd is innocent) [font=Verdana] 1. “To his credit, it’s recognition that [/font][font=Verdana]the science is reliable[/font][font=Verdana],” USADA general counsel Travis Tygart told The Associated Press. “Instead of wasting a bunch of resources attempting to create smoke where there’s not any, he’s acknowledging the accuracy of the positive test, and in exchange for his agreement to cooperate, we’ve recognized the nature of his first offense.”[/font]
[font=Verdana] 2. USADA looks at this as a significant compromise — and the arbitration process could bring Gatlin back much sooner than eight years.[/font] - Scary ! He maybe back by next week if USADA has anything to do with it !
[font=Verdana]Lim I agree with you but I think we have seen a seachange in the last year in doping. For the first time in a long time its becoming ok for athletes to talk about doping. Life bans and the like should be enforced but for the moment several riders and other athletes are starting to open up and not face the ridicule of their peers. When Armstrong put the “cone of silence” on Bassons on Simonei some of us thought he was protecting the peleton. Well we know now that it wasn't protection of the peleton but protection of Armstrong inc. He needed cycling to appear clean so he could appear clean. (more books, endorsments etc.)
I'm ok with Galtin receiving a reduced ban if it gets people talking... plea bargaining ([font=Verdana]allocute) [/font]is an acceptable part of the law... in exchange for solid evidence the accused can get a lighter sentence and stop a 12 month legal cycle that helps no-one (especially tax payers or federations money - which is better spent on development of youth)... that’s a good thing....
Imagine if Landis came forward and spoke exactly how the Fuentes network operated. Imagine if it cleaned the sport out of 20 other riders but more importantly cleaned up the dodgy doctors, dodgy DS's and dodgy masseurs and got them away from the sport...imagine if 20 new drugs that were previously undetectable now became detectable… Imagine if the younger riders didn't have to feel the pressure from the elder statesmen from the EPO days... its a good thing and if Landis got a one year ban for it I'd be all for it... the last thing we want is a Darrel Hair situation where the letter of the law is applied every single time without an opportunity for conmen sense or the spirit of the competition to prevail.....[/font][font=Verdana][/font]
Agreed. A Darrel Hair situation is neither productive or helpful.
If Gaitlin is really interested in turning States witness - he has to give a ful and frank account of what he was up to, in order to merit being given a dispensation. If Landis were to do so - this too would be welcome.
Agreed. A Darrel Hair situation is neither productive or helpful.
If Gaitlin is really interested in turning States witness - he has to give a ful and frank account of what he was up to, in order to merit being given a dispensation. If Landis were to do so - this too would be welcome.
Although if you look at Dwain Chambers (UK Sprinter) case once he admitted to using steroids after the BALCO affair, UK Athletics went after him to reclaim monies earned whilst he was on THG. That would scare a lot of athletes… if they're out of the game for 2 years they will need to keep every cent than can….
Gaitlin - like Powell, like Montgomery, like White and like Maid Marion - initially denied doping. He said two weeks ago "I never took testosterone". Now, it seems he has a change of heart and has admitted taking testosterone and acknowledges the accuracy of the test. That's big of him!
There should be no compromise with this guy - he should be banned for life.
He hasn't admitted taking testosterone-merely conceded the test data. He is still free to pursue the vindictive massage therapist defense on appeal.
Yes but I think part of Gatlin's strategy is to confess on the understanding that he can take up a lucrative career in amerikan football.
I was hearing those same discussions in the press. What is the normal sanction for multisport athletes convicted in one area regarding other sports?
Is Gatlin able to go the NFL because: 1) it's a different federation from where the violation occurred? or 2) it was part of the agreement? or 3) NFL sanctions on testosterone were so slight as to be over by next season?
Yes but I think part of Gatlin's strategy is to confess on the understanding that he can take up a lucrative career in amerikan football.
I was hearing those same discussions in the press. What is the normal sanction for multisport athletes convicted in one area regarding other sports?
Is Gatlin able to go the NFL because: 1) it's a different federation from where the violation occurred? or 2) it was part of the agreement? or 3) NFL sanctions on testosterone were so slight as to be over by next season?
Yes but I think part of Gatlin's strategy is to confess on the understanding that he can take up a lucrative career in amerikan football.
I was hearing those same discussions in the press. What is the normal sanction for multisport athletes convicted in one area regarding other sports?
Is Gatlin able to go the NFL because: 1) it's a different federation from where the violation occurred? or 2) it was part of the agreement? or 3) NFL sanctions on testosterone were so slight as to be over by next season?
Gaitlin - like Powell, like Montgomery, like White and like Maid Marion - initially denied doping. He said two weeks ago "I never took testosterone". Now, it seems he has a change of heart and has admitted taking testosterone and acknowledges the accuracy of the test. That's big of him!
There should be no compromise with this guy - he should be banned for life.
He hasn't admitted taking testosterone-merely conceded the test data. He is still free to pursue the vindictive massage therapist defense on appeal.
8 years is a pretty stiff sentence. Considering the circumstances of the earlier accidently offense, the standard 2 year ban would have been in line with any offense on this offense (assuming he can't prove the testosterone wasn't surepticiously placed their by another).
Gaitlin - like Powell, like Montgomery, like White and like Maid Marion - initially denied doping. He said two weeks ago "I never took testosterone". Now, it seems he has a change of heart and has admitted taking testosterone and acknowledges the accuracy of the test. That's big of him!
There should be no compromise with this guy - he should be banned for life.
He hasn't admitted taking testosterone-merely conceded the test data. He is still free to pursue the vindictive massage therapist defense on appeal.
8 years is a pretty stiff sentence. Considering the circumstances of the earlier accidently offense, the standard 2 year ban would have been in line with any offense on this offense (assuming he can't prove the testosterone wasn't surepticiously placed their by another).
