Well, that was a brilliant afternoon!

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Bright here; blustery, fast moving clouds, warm. Went out for a good fast
40 mile workout with some friends, coming back via the last 'mountain'
prime of the first stage of the Tour of Britain. And then back home just
in time to watch the last 10Km of the Vuelta stage and see a storming
solo victory by Vino, who is in my opinion beginning to look very
dangerous again; then switch over to BBC2 and see an absolutely textbook
team sprint by Quickstep on the last lap of the London criterium,
peeling off one by one with military precision as if in a velodrome to
deliver Tom Boonen to the line.

Spoiler alert Shirley. I'd just DVD'd the bugger ;-)

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

Simon Brooke said:

Bright here; blustery, fast moving clouds, warm. Went out for a good fast
40 mile workout with some friends, coming back via the last 'mountain'
prime of the first stage of the Tour of Britain. And then back home just
in time to watch the last 10Km of the Vuelta stage and see a storming
solo victory by Vino, who is in my opinion beginning to look very
dangerous again; then switch over to BBC2 and see an absolutely textbook
team sprint by Quickstep on the last lap of the London criterium,
peeling off one by one with military precision as if in a velodrome to
deliver Tom Boonen to the line. Magnificent team work. And, even better,
Martin Pedersen came home in yellow for CSC, so the man from my
favourite team who won the first stage in my home town went on to win
the tour. Most, most excellent.

I thought that Mark Cavendish did a really good sprint to get third -
very quick and if he had started a few places further up would have
been a serious contender for the win.

And just seen the tallbiketour guys doing a loop behind Chris Boardman
during the post race summing up.. ;-)

...d

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Bright here; blustery, fast moving clouds, warm. Went out for a good fast
40 mile workout with some friends, coming back via the last 'mountain'
prime of the first stage of the Tour of Britain. And then back home just
in time to watch the last 10Km of the Vuelta stage and see a storming
solo victory by Vino, who is in my opinion beginning to look very
dangerous again; then switch over to BBC2 and see an absolutely textbook
team sprint by Quickstep on the last lap of the London criterium,
peeling off one by one with military precision as if in a velodrome to
deliver Tom Boonen to the line. Magnificent team work. And, even better,
Martin Pedersen came home in yellow for CSC, so the man from my
favourite team who won the first stage in my home town went on to win
the tour. Most, most excellent.

Sastre is riding a canny Vuelta and controlling his losses, but in my
opinion the costs of having ridden three GTs this year are showing. He
did brilliantly and I was cheering for him, but Valverde is doing better
and Vino, if he can be consistent, is in better form still.

And what a pity that Vino for "ethical" reasons wasn't allowed to
participate in the Tour!

Benjo

in 525776 20060903 170657 Simon Brooke said:

Bright here; blustery, fast moving clouds, warm. Went out for a good fast
40 mile workout with some friends, coming back via the last 'mountain'
prime of the first stage of the Tour of Britain. And then back home just
in time to watch the last 10Km of the Vuelta stage and see a storming
solo victory by Vino, who is in my opinion beginning to look very
dangerous again; then switch over to BBC2 and see an absolutely textbook
team sprint by Quickstep on the last lap of the London criterium,
peeling off one by one with military precision as if in a velodrome to
deliver Tom Boonen to the line. Magnificent team work. And, even better,
Martin Pedersen came home in yellow for CSC, so the man from my
favourite team who won the first stage in my home town went on to win
the tour. Most, most excellent.

I was looking for the giant panda, Chi-chi, that the commentator kept talking
about, but I didn't see him.

Bob Martin schreef:

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I was looking for the giant panda, Chi-chi, that the commentator kept talking
about, but I didn't see him.

Did he pronounce it Kiki or Cheechy? The former is the Italian version.

--
E. Dronkert

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Bob Martin schreef:

Quoted message said:

I was looking for the giant panda, Chi-chi, that the commentator kept
talking
about, but I didn't see him.

Did he pronounce it Kiki or Cheechy? The former is the Italian version.

I thought he was just being cheeky....
Boonen & Cavendish very impressive. Valverde too in the vuelta.
All the best
Dan Gregory

in 525791 20060903 190918 Ewoud Dronkert said:

Bob Martin schreef:

Quoted message said:

I was looking for the giant panda, Chi-chi, that the commentator kept talking
about, but I didn't see him.

Did he pronounce it Kiki or Cheechy? The former is the Italian version.

He pronounced it Cheechy. I dunno about the Italian version - surely there's
only one version and that's the right one?

Bob Martin said:

He pronounced it Cheechy. I dunno about the Italian version - surely
there's only one version and that's the right one?

Well, yes, but do you say Pariss or Pahree?

--
E. Dronkert

Benjo said:

And what a pity that Vino for "ethical" reasons wasn't allowed to
participate in the Tour!

They didn't have anything on him, just that his team was short, right?

Well, he's clearly got plenty of motivation!

--
ciao,
Bruce

drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/

Simon Brooke said:

And, even better,
Martin Pedersen came home in yellow for CSC, so the man from my
favourite team who won the first stage in my home town went on to win
the tour. Most, most excellent.

this dude, pedersen looks like a fire hydrant. i've never seen a
protour rider built like that.

in 525867 20060904 092800 Ewoud Dronkert said:

Bob Martin said:

He pronounced it Cheechy. I dunno about the Italian version - surely
there's only one version and that's the right one?

Well, yes, but do you say Pariss or Pahree?

I talk about Paris, the city, but Paree-Roubay, Paree-Neece etc!
But I don't see the relevance - how did you pronounce Cipollini (Sippo?)
or Chiapucci (Chee-a-pukki?) etc?
Mispronouncing someone's name, IMHO, is an insult.

Bob Martin schreef:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

He pronounced it Cheechy. I dunno about the Italian version - surely
there's only one version and that's the right one?

Well, yes, but do you say Pariss or Pahree?

I talk about Paris, the city, but Paree-Roubay, Paree-Neece etc!
But I don't see the relevance - how did you pronounce Cipollini (Sippo?)

Sorry I didn't make myself clear; I agree one should strive to pronounce
names as they are intended, and I mostly try to do so myself, but I
accept that sometimes there are alternative pronunciations for reasons
of convention, convenience, laziness or incompetence. Some alternatives
bother me, some don't. I gave Paris as an example, perhaps poorly as
it's not a family name, but just because the (English) alternative is
widely accepted or at least recognized. I mistook(?) your comment of
"only one right version" for ultimately referring to all names not just
Chichi.

Cheers,
Ewoud (pronounce that, "dumbass"!)

--
E. Dronkert

in 525879 20060904 192322 Ewoud Dronkert said:

Bob Martin schreef:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> He pronounced it Cheechy. I dunno about the Italian version - surely
> there's only one version and that's the right one?
Well, yes, but do you say Pariss or Pahree?

I talk about Paris, the city, but Paree-Roubay, Paree-Neece etc!
But I don't see the relevance - how did you pronounce Cipollini (Sippo?)

Sorry I didn't make myself clear; I agree one should strive to pronounce
names as they are intended, and I mostly try to do so myself, but I
accept that sometimes there are alternative pronunciations for reasons
of convention, convenience, laziness or incompetence. Some alternatives
bother me, some don't. I gave Paris as an example, perhaps poorly as
it's not a family name, but just because the (English) alternative is
widely accepted or at least recognized. I mistook(?) your comment of
"only one right version" for ultimately referring to all names not just
Chichi.

I'm afraid pronunciation of foreign names is something that gets me hot under
the collar, especially well-paid sports commentators who spend several months
of the year travelling around Europe yet cannot be bothered to spend 30 minutes
or so learning the basic pronunciation rules of Italian, French, German and Spanish.

A classic case was the BBC commentator who never once said "Sabine Braun"
correctly during her long and illustrious career.

Ewoud Dronkert said:

I mistook(?) your comment of
"only one right version" for ultimately referring to all names not just
Chichi.

So, how do you pronounce Chichi in Kazakh?

Jenko

Bob Martin said:

I'm afraid pronunciation of foreign names is something that gets me hot under
the collar, especially well-paid sports commentators who spend several months
of the year travelling around Europe yet cannot be bothered to spend 30 minutes
or so learning the basic pronunciation rules of Italian, French, German and Spanish.

Is Duffers that well paid - I've always wondered
;-)
Dan Gregory (whose family name was once Greatorex but the census
officials couldn't be arsed to write it..)

"Bruce Scott TOK" wrote

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Benjo said:

And what a pity that Vino for "ethical" reasons wasn't allowed to
participate in the Tour!

They didn't have anything on him, just that his team was short, right?

Well, he's clearly got plenty of motivation!

What is really gaulling is that those riders of his team that were dropped
from the tour squad were later exonerated!

--
Dave Lloyd
So open minded, my brains dribbled out.

in message <[email hidden]>, david lloyd

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"Bruce Scott TOK" wrote

Quoted message said:

Benjo said:

And what a pity that Vino for "ethical" reasons wasn't allowed to
participate in the Tour!

They didn't have anything on him, just that his team was short, right?

Well, he's clearly got plenty of motivation!

What is really gaulling is that those riders of his team that were
dropped from the tour squad were later exonerated!

Errr... no. The Spanish courts later said they weren't being pursued for
any offence under Spanish law. As doping isn't an offence under Spanish
law, that isn't very surprising. We'll have to wait and see.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; If God does not write LISP, God writes some code so similar to
;; LISP as to make no difference.

in message <[email hidden]>, Bob Martin

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in 525867 20060904 092800 Ewoud Dronkert

Quoted message said:

Bob Martin said:

He pronounced it Cheechy. I dunno about the Italian version - surely
there's only one version and that's the right one?

Well, yes, but do you say Pariss or Pahree?

I talk about Paris, the city, but Paree-Roubay, Paree-Neece etc!
But I don't see the relevance - how did you pronounce Cipollini
(Sippo?) or Chiapucci (Chee-a-pukki?) etc?
Mispronouncing someone's name, IMHO, is an insult.

Mispronouncing someone's name - if you know how it should correctly be
pronounced - is certainly an insult. I think that mispronouncing the
name of someone's city is also an insult, although I have to confess
that my partner thinks I'm pretentious.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; First they came for the asylum seekers,
;; and I did not speak out because I was not an asylum seeker.
;; Then they came for the gypsies,
;; and I did not speak out because I was not a gypsy...
;; Pastor Martin Niemöller, translated by Michael Howard.

On 9/4/06 1:57 PM, in article
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Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Bob Martin

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in 525867 20060904 092800 Ewoud Dronkert

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 07:18:40 GMT, Bob Martin wrote:
> He pronounced it Cheechy. I dunno about the Italian version - surely
> there's only one version and that's the right one?

Well, yes, but do you say Pariss or Pahree?

I talk about Paris, the city, but Paree-Roubay, Paree-Neece etc!
But I don't see the relevance - how did you pronounce Cipollini
(Sippo?) or Chiapucci (Chee-a-pukki?) etc?
Mispronouncing someone's name, IMHO, is an insult.

Mispronouncing someone's name - if you know how it should correctly be
pronounced - is certainly an insult. I think that mispronouncing the
name of someone's city is also an insult, although I have to confess
that my partner thinks I'm pretentious.

Partner= code for "HomerSexual"