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  1. Original post
    Jason Spaceman
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    #1

    Although you have to [censored] all over your hand to do it:
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Doping experts developing test to detect powder that destroys EPO in
    urine

    The Associated Press

    Published: October 1, 2006
    LAUSANNE, Switzerland Anti-doping laboratories are working on a test
    to detect a powder used to destroy traces of the performance-enhancer
    EPO in urine samples.

    Martial Saugy, the head of the Swiss anti-doping laboratory, said
    there have been suspicious tests over the last year in which no traces
    of EPO — or Erythropoietin — were found in athlete's urine, not even
    natural EPO produced by the body's kidney cells.

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease —
    sometimes used in stain removers — to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    .. . .Cheaters could slip the powder into a urine sample by putting a
    hand in their pocket where some protease is stashed, then urinating on
    their fingers. Very little powder is needed to break down proteins —
    including EPO — in urine in the space of a few minutes.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    Read it at
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/01/sports/EU_SPT_ATH_IAAF_Doping_EPO_Destroyer.php

    J. Spaceman

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  2. Steve
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    #2

    The obvious solution would be for [censored] Pound to personally "handle" the
    urine tests.
    "Jason Spaceman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Although you have to [censored] all over your hand to do it:
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Doping experts developing test to detect powder that destroys EPO in
    urine

    The Associated Press

    Published: October 1, 2006
    LAUSANNE, Switzerland Anti-doping laboratories are working on a test
    to detect a powder used to destroy traces of the performance-enhancer
    EPO in urine samples.

    Martial Saugy, the head of the Swiss anti-doping laboratory, said
    there have been suspicious tests over the last year in which no traces
    of EPO - or Erythropoietin - were found in athlete's urine, not even
    natural EPO produced by the body's kidney cells.

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease -
    sometimes used in stain removers - to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    . . .Cheaters could slip the powder into a urine sample by putting a
    hand in their pocket where some protease is stashed, then urinating on
    their fingers. Very little powder is needed to break down proteins -
    including EPO - in urine in the space of a few minutes.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    Read it at


    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/01/sports/EU_SPT_ATH_IAAF_Doping_EPO_Destroyer.php

    Quoted message said:

    J. Spaceman

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  3. Email address hidden
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    #3
    Jason Spaceman said:

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease -
    sometimes used in stain removers - to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    . . .Cheaters could slip the powder into a urine sample by putting a
    hand in their pocket where some protease is stashed, then urinating on
    their fingers. Very little powder is needed to break down proteins -
    including EPO - in urine in the space of a few minutes.

    Read it at
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/01/sports/EU_SPT_ATH_IAAF_Doping_EPO_Destroyer.php

    This certainly brings a new meaning to "racing clean."

    The good news is that there's probably at least some
    fraction of the 12k pro contingent that we can be sure are
    innocent, since they never get near laundry detergent.

    I look forward to WADA's next regulations which prohibit
    rider from washing their shorts during stage races.

    Ben
    Forget the RACECLEAN bracelets, I want to see
    RACECLEAN chamois cream

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  4. Stu Fleming
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    #4

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Ben
    Forget the RACECLEAN bracelets, I want to see
    RACECLEAN chamois cream

    We have: "The Cream"
    We have: "The Clear"
    Now we have: "The Clean".

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  5. Donald Munro
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    #5
    Jason Spaceman said:
    Quoted message said:

    Doping experts developing test to detect powder that destroys EPO in
    urine
    Although you have to [censored] all over your hand to do it:

    Steve said:

    The obvious solution would be for [censored] Pound to personally "handle" the
    urine tests.

    The test known as the Pound reach Around ?

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  6. Donald Munro
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    #6
    Jason Spaceman said:

    Although you have to [censored] all over your hand to do it:
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Doping experts developing test to detect powder that destroys EPO in
    urine

    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/don+henley/dirty+laundry_20042033.html

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  7. nobody
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    #7
    Stu Fleming said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ben
    Forget the RACECLEAN bracelets, I want to see
    RACECLEAN chamois cream

    We have: "The Cream"
    We have: "The Clear"
    Now we have: "The Clean".

    POTD

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  8. Email address hidden
    Archived post
    #8
    Jason Spaceman said:

    Although you have to [censored] all over your hand to do it:
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Doping experts developing test to detect powder that destroys EPO in
    urine

    The Associated Press

    Published: October 1, 2006
    LAUSANNE, Switzerland Anti-doping laboratories are working on a test
    to detect a powder used to destroy traces of the performance-enhancer
    EPO in urine samples.

    Martial Saugy, the head of the Swiss anti-doping laboratory, said
    there have been suspicious tests over the last year in which no traces
    of EPO - or Erythropoietin - were found in athlete's urine, not even
    natural EPO produced by the body's kidney cells.

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease -
    sometimes used in stain removers - to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    . . .Cheaters could slip the powder into a urine sample by putting a
    hand in their pocket where some protease is stashed, then urinating on
    their fingers. Very little powder is needed to break down proteins -
    including EPO - in urine in the space of a few minutes.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    Read it at
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/01/sports/EU_SPT_ATH_IAAF_Doping_EPO_Destroyer.php

    J. Spaceman

    An easy fix. Create a new rule saying failure to show traces of
    natural EPO in your urine will be considered the same as a positive
    test, thus removing the incentive to kill the hormone in one's urine.

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  9. Bob Dole
    Archived post
    #9
    Jason Spaceman said:

    Although you have to [censored] all over your hand to do it:
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Doping experts developing test to detect powder that destroys EPO in
    urine

    The Associated Press

    Published: October 1, 2006
    LAUSANNE, Switzerland Anti-doping laboratories are working on a test
    to detect a powder used to destroy traces of the performance-enhancer
    EPO in urine samples.

    Martial Saugy, the head of the Swiss anti-doping laboratory, said
    there have been suspicious tests over the last year in which no traces
    of EPO - or Erythropoietin - were found in athlete's urine, not even
    natural EPO produced by the body's kidney cells.

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease -
    sometimes used in stain removers - to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    . . .Cheaters could slip the powder into a urine sample by putting a
    hand in their pocket where some protease is stashed, then urinating on
    their fingers. Very little powder is needed to break down proteins -
    including EPO - in urine in the space of a few minutes.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    Read it at
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/01/sports/EU_SPT_ATH_IAAF_Doping_EPO_Destroyer.php

    This is interesting. Moises Alou, when he played baseball with the
    Chicago Cubs, used to urinate on his hands "a technique used to give
    them a harder texture during the long baseball season".

    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20040511/ai_n12547503

    The thing is, I don't know that baseball had even started testing for
    EPO at that time.

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  10. Andy B.
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    #10

    "Jason Spaceman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease -
    sometimes used in stain removers - to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    To the chemists out there - Doesn't saliva contain alpha or beta amylase
    which is a type of protease? IOW, would spitting in your [censored] do the same
    thing or do they not work on proteins (or whatever the EPO metabolites are)?

    -Andy B.

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  11. nobody
    Archived post
    #11
    Andy B. said:


    "Jason Spaceman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease -
    sometimes used in stain removers - to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    To the chemists out there - Doesn't saliva contain alpha or beta amylase
    which is a type of protease? IOW, would spitting in your [censored] do the same
    thing or do they not work on proteins (or whatever the EPO metabolites are)?

    -Andy B.

    Starch

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  12. Andre
    Archived post
    #12
    Andy B. said:

    "Jason Spaceman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Researches suspect cheats are using a substance called protease -
    sometimes used in stain removers - to wipe out all traces of EPO in
    their urine.. . .

    To the chemists out there - Doesn't saliva contain alpha or beta amylase
    which is a type of protease? IOW, would spitting in your [censored] do the same
    thing or do they not work on proteins (or whatever the EPO metabolites are)?

    -Andy B.

    Why don't they [censored] in the presence of the doctor?

    Andre

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