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  1. Ref:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23366426-details/%C2%A32,500%20-%20As%20Labour%20targets%20cycle%20safety,%20the%20huge%20fines%20serial%20offenders%20could%20face%20for%20not%20having%20a%20bell/article.do

    Old article (10 Sept) on bicycle bell compulsion, but it mentioned something
    about new standards:

    Ladyman -- "New harmonised European construction standards for bicycles come
    into force in November this year. Although they do not cover bicycle bells, the
    introduction of these standards makes this a sensible moment to review our
    current policies on cycle construction, including the question of bells."

    What are these new standards?

  2. Marc Brett said:

    Ref:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23366426-details/%C2%A32,500%20-%20As%20Labour%20targets%20cycle%20safety,%20the%20huge%20fines%20serial%20offenders%20could%20face%20for%20not%20having%20a%20bell/article.do

    Old article (10 Sept) on bicycle bell compulsion, but it mentioned something
    about new standards:

    Ladyman -- "New harmonised European construction standards for bicycles come
    into force in November this year. Although they do not cover bicycle bells, the
    introduction of these standards makes this a sensible moment to review our
    current policies on cycle construction, including the question of bells."

    Hopefully, they contain emergency measures to prevent French bike
    mechanics in my LBS re-cabling my rear brake to the RH lever, causing
    me to grab a handful of the back brake, and doing a impressive
    handbrake turn, before hitting the street. But maybe I'm overly
    optimistic.

    BTW, do youse really have a politician called 'Ladyman'? You'd have
    thought a few jokes would have been cracked about him...

  3. Marc Brett said:


    Ref:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23366426-details/%C2%A32,500%20-%20As%20Labour%20targets%20cycle%20safety,%20the%20huge%20fines%20serial%20offenders%20could%20face%20for%20not%20having%20a%20bell/article.do

    Old article (10 Sept) on bicycle bell compulsion, but it mentioned
    something about new standards:

    Ladyman -- "New harmonised European construction standards for bicycles
    come into force in November this year. Although they do not cover bicycle
    bells, the introduction of these standards makes this a sensible moment to
    review our current policies on cycle construction, including the question
    of bells."

    What are these new standards?

    It seems impossible to get ISO standards online, but what I believe
    they've done is to take BS6102-1 and ISO-ise it. Your local library might
    have an on-line subscription to BSI so you could read it there. If you're
    really lucky like we residents of Cambridgeshire you can get BS documents
    directly at home. Be warned that the BSI catalogue search is the worst
    ever implemnted by anyone anywhere in the world :-(

    The standard only applies to complete bicycles at the point of sale, and
    you can legally remove anything that it specifies once you've wheeled the
    bike out of the shop. None of it applies to recumbents of course,
    because it's for bikes of "saddle height" 635mm or greater.

    Mike

  4. In article <[email hidden]>

    Marc Brett said:


    Ref:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23366426-details/%C2%A32,500%20-%20As%20Labour%20targets%20cycle%20safety,%20the%20huge%20fines%20serial%20offenders%20could%20face%20for%20not%20having%20a%20bell/article.do

    Old article (10 Sept) on bicycle bell compulsion, but it mentioned something
    about new standards:

    Ladyman -- "New harmonised European construction standards for bicycles come
    into force in November this year. Although they do not cover bicycle bells, the
    introduction of these standards makes this a sensible moment to review our
    current policies on cycle construction, including the question of bells."

    What are these new standards?


    A quick Google suggests the overall European standard is

    CEN/TC 333
    Bicycles for use on public roads. Safety requirements and test methods

    Some British Standards that cover bits of CEN/TC 333 :

    BS EN 14764:2005
    City and trekking bicycles. Safety requirements and test methods

    BS EN 14766:2005
    Mountain-bicycles. Safety requirements and test methods

    BS EN 14781:2005
    Racing bicycles. Safety requirements and test methods

  5. On 10 Oct 2006 07:16:18 -0700, "sothach" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, do youse really have a politician called 'Ladyman'? You'd have
    thought a few jokes would have been cracked about him...

    http://www.steveladyman.labour.co.uk/

  6. In article said:
    Quoted message said:

    What are these new standards?

    It seems impossible to get ISO standards online, but what I believe
    they've done is to take BS6102-1 and ISO-ise it.


    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    The standard only applies to complete bicycles at the point of sale, and
    you can legally remove anything that it specifies once you've wheeled the
    bike out of the shop. None of it applies to recumbents of course,
    because it's for bikes of "saddle height" 635mm or greater.

    Because bicycles lower than that are toys, not serious vehicles?

  7. Marc Brett said:


    Ref:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23366426-details/%C2%A32,500%20-%20As%20Labour%20targets%20cycle%20safety,%20the%20huge%20fines%20serial%20offenders%20could%20face%20for%20not%20having%20a%20bell/article.do

    Old article (10 Sept) on bicycle bell compulsion, but it mentioned
    something about new standards:

    Ladyman -- "New harmonised European construction standards for bicycles
    come into force in November this year. Although they do not cover bicycle
    bells, the introduction of these standards makes this a sensible moment to
    review our current policies on cycle construction, including the question
    of bells."

    What are these new standards?

    Ah-ha, in EN 14781:2005 it says:

    "[this] partially supersedes BS 6102-1:1992, which will be declared
    obsolescent on 30 November 2006 following publication of BS EN 14764,
    BS EN 14765, BS EN 14766 and BS EN 14781 and withdrawn when The Pedal
    Bicycles (Safety) Regulations 2003 are updated to reference the
    European Standards."

    The EN 147-series /are/ available via the library's BSI subscription.

    Mike

  8. Marc Brett twisted the electrons to say:

    Quoted message said:

    Ladyman -- "New harmonised European construction standards for bicycles
    come into force in November this year. Although they do not cover bicycle
    bells, the introduction of these standards makes this a sensible moment to
    review our current policies on cycle construction, including the question
    of bells."

    .... or to put it another way, what he's saying is "there's a new
    harmonised standard coming in. Let's alter our version so it actually
    won't be a harmonised standard."?
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...

  9. Alan Braggins said:
    Quoted message said:

    The standard only applies to complete bicycles at the point of sale, and
    you can legally remove anything that it specifies once you've wheeled the
    bike out of the shop. None of it applies to recumbents of course,
    because it's for bikes of "saddle height" 635mm or greater.

    Because bicycles lower than that are toys, not serious vehicles?

    Bikes lower than that are for children with "a typical rider weight of
    30kg" (EN 14765:2005).

    Mike

  10. Mike Causer said:
    Alan Braggins said:
    Quoted message said:

    The standard only applies to complete bicycles at the point of
    sale, and you can legally remove anything that it specifies once
    you've wheeled the bike out of the shop. None of it applies to
    recumbents of course, because it's for bikes of "saddle height"
    635mm or greater.

    Because bicycles lower than that are toys, not serious vehicles?

    Bikes lower than that are for children with "a typical rider weight of
    30kg" (EN 14765:2005).

    Dang!

    (Goes on diet)

    --
    Dave Larrington
    <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
    The entire population of Uxbridge has no idea that it doesn't
    actually exist.

  11. Dave Larrington said:

    Mike Causer wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bikes lower than that are for children with "a typical rider weight of
    30kg" (EN 14765:2005).

    Dang!

    (Goes on diet)

    That'll have to be a hell of a diet!

    --
    Dave...

  12. dkahn400 twisted the electrons to say:

    Quoted message said:
    Dave Larrington said:

    (Goes on diet)


    That'll have to be a hell of a diet!

    Aye ... It could end up costing him an arm and a leg?
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...

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