Clothing

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I've been riding for years, but it was only a year ago that I got with the program and bought
padded shorts, a wicking jersey, and nice stiff bike shoes.

This is such a dramatic improvement over tee shirts and running shoes that I am wondering what
else I am missing.

Not much; those are the main ones IMO. Do you have padded gloves? Some people (me, for one)
find a big difference in comfort when using them over non-padded or no gloves. Not true for
everyone, though.

WRT the shoes, I found that pretty much any stiff-soled sneaker-style shoes work fine; I use a pair
of cross-trainers. Stiffness is the key.

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What other articles of clothing do people recommend, especially in the cooler weather? And in
extreme weather--cold, very hot, wet?

For cooler weather, I like a long wicking material like UnderArmor Cold Gear. For really cold, you
want wind-blocking as well.

I don't ride when it's really wet any more, so I can't weigh in on that subject.

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"OughtFour" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I've been riding for years, but it was only a year ago that I got with the program and bought
padded shorts, a wicking jersey, and nice stiff bike shoes.

This is such a dramatic improvement over tee shirts and running shoes that

I

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am wondering what else I am missing.

What other articles of clothing do people recommend, especially in the cooler weather? And in
extreme weather--cold, very hot, wet?

You should get those fingerless gloves with the pads on the palms for general riding. In the winter,
I go to the Army/Navy store and buy silk glove liners for $4 apiece and wear those under the bicycle
gloves. They keep my fingers warm while keeping the tactile stimulation I prefer. One pair will last
the entire winter. In fact, mine would have lasted longer, but I snagged them on something and
ripped a piece out.

What bothers me? My fingers, toes, ears, and nose. You can slip a plastic baggie over your socks
before you put your feet in the shoes, and that will help with the cold toes. Some people wear
balaclavas to protect the nose. I wear a polypropylene hat and pull it down over my ears . The thin
polypropylene keeps the cold air from the helmet vents from freezing your head, and it also
protects the ears without rendering you deaf.

Pat in TX

"OughtFour" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've been riding for years, but it was only a year ago that I got with the program and bought
padded shorts, a wicking jersey, and nice stiff bike shoes.

This is such a dramatic improvement over tee shirts and running shoes that I am wondering what
else I am missing.

What other articles of clothing do people recommend, especially in the cooler weather? And in
extreme weather--cold, very hot, wet?

For very cold -- windfront tights. I have some Bellwether ones. They really do the job down into the
teens F, and probably colder.

Vests are handy too. They keep most of the wind off, while breathing better than a full
windbreaker. Windfront jerseys are really nice, but hard to find and very expensive, and a vest
works just as well.

Matt O.

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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You should get those fingerless gloves with the pads on the palms for general riding. In the
winter, I go to the Army/Navy store and buy silk glove liners for $4 apiece and wear those under
the bicycle gloves. They keep my fingers warm while keeping the tactile stimulation I prefer. One
pair will last the entire winter. In fact, mine would have lasted longer, but I snagged them on
something and ripped a piece out.

That'll work, but for me the biggest problem is keeping the wind off. I

I have some Pearl Izumi gloves that are semi-windproof, and good down to just below freezing.
They're like "spring skiing" gloves. They get a lot of use -- for biking, skiing, and all
around cold weather wear. I got them for Xmas 7-8 years ago. And despite all that use, they
still look great.

Matt O.

"OughtFour" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I've been riding for years, but it was only a year ago that I got with the program and bought
padded shorts, a wicking jersey, and nice stiff bike shoes.

This is such a dramatic improvement over tee shirts and running shoes that

I

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am wondering what else I am missing.

What other articles of clothing do people recommend, especially in the cooler weather? And in
extreme weather--cold, very hot, wet?

The technical fabrics and made for biking clothes do make things a LOT more comfy for me too. But as
you know it's all quite possible to do with ordinary clothes and for a lot less money.

It looks like you are from southern California? If so I'm not sure what you mean by
extreme cold/hot.

Above 50F/10C you might consider arm &/or leg warmers. They are easy to remove on days when it will
warm up. At 50F/10C a long sleeve jersey and vest can be nice, especially at the start, and the vest
is easy to stuff in a jersey pocket when it warms up. Light tights are good to add here too.

As the temperature goes lower you can switch to winter jersey, tights and wind jacket. Light booties
or toe warmers and winter bike gloves help.

At freezing you would probably want to add some light underwear made for high energy activity.
Underwear comes in 3 weights and you can layer the weights too. If you haven't already you would
switch to windblocking tights. You probably need warmer gloves or mitts and warmer booties around
this point. Ear muffs, ear bags, helmet ear patches are some ways to keep your ears from freezing.

As it gets colder you add more under layers. You need warmer mitts & booties, maybe multiples of
both. When it gets very cold around here -10F/-20C with high winds you might want a neoprene face
mask and a thin hat under your helmet.

Some notes.

For riding wind blocking means only on the front of vests, jackets, tights, jerseys and underwear.
Bike shorts have pads and thus are always wind blocking.

Some of your top layers need to fit well around the neck but sometimes with all layers tight around
the neck I can feel a bit strangled.

I'll leave warm to you.

Doug Toronto

"OughtFour" wrote

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I've been riding for years, but it was only a year ago that I got with the program and bought
padded shorts, a wicking jersey, and nice stiff bike shoes.

This is such a dramatic improvement over tee shirts and running shoes that

I

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am wondering what else I am missing.

What other articles of clothing do people recommend, especially in the cooler weather? And in
extreme weather--cold, very hot, wet?

Cycling gloves are nice, they cushion your hands on long rides, like a lot of people have mentioned.
The 1/2 finger jobs are good for mild weather, there are full finger models for cool weather, and
Pearl Izumi makes a really neat glove called the "Lobster Claw" (2 fingers & thumb) for really cold
weather. Thin glove liners (silk, polypro, Thermax, Capilene) will extend the temperature range of
any of these.

A few companies (Ibex, Rivendell) are bringing back high quality wool cycling clothing. They don't
absorb body odors like the synthetics, and keep you comfortable over a wider range of temperatures
than synthetics, but they are pricey, harder to care for (take longer to dry) and smell like a wet
sheep when wet.

For cold weather, Pearl Izumi and a few other people make thin skull caps that fit under a bicycle
helmet, which goes a long way in retaining body heat.

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mark

mark <[email hidden]> wrote:
: A few companies (Ibex, Rivendell) are bringing back high quality wool cycling clothing.

see also

vintagevelos.comclothing1.htmlOpen ↗ vintagevelos.comjer acido1.htmlOpen ↗
vintagevelos.comjer veloce1.htmlOpen ↗

swobo. sniffle, sniffle. geez, they were almost indestructible. i've got a couple of never worn
black long sleeves xl jerseys if anyone wants to make me an offer (i'm a large now).

: you comfortable over a wider range of temperatures than synthetics, but they are pricey, harder to
: care for (take longer to dry) and smell like a wet sheep when wet.

hmm. i like that smell. the best advantage of wool is that you, errr, ummm .. don't have to wash it
very much. i go almost a whole week with one jersey commuting (i'm "evaluating" the acido right now
-- so far so good).

it sounds a lot grosser than it is. honest.

nothing beats it in the cold. & 'specially in the cold when wet. and they aren't bad in the heat,
either. i've used the same jersey from 45 (w/ arm warmers) to 104 (umm, without). great for touring
(never wash).
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david reuteler [email hidden]

"Doug Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It looks like you are from southern California? If so I'm not sure what you mean by extreme
cold/hot.

There are mountains and deserts in southern CA, where in winter it regularly goes below 10F at
night, and sometimes below 0F. And of course, extreme heat (90F+) is commonplace, anywhere more than
a few miles from the ocean.

CA is definately a land of extremes! That's what makes it so interesting... you can ski and surf on
the same day!

Matt O.

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mark <[email hidden]> wrote:

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: A few companies (Ibex, Rivendell) are bringing back high quality wool cycling clothing.

see also

vintagevelos.comclothing1.htmlOpen ↗ vintagevelos.comjer acido1.htmlOpen ↗
vintagevelos.comjer veloce1.htmlOpen ↗

swobo. sniffle, sniffle. geez, they were almost indestructible. i've got a couple of never worn
black long sleeves xl jerseys if anyone wants to make me an offer (i'm a large now).

Also try www.boure.com

Matt O.

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hmm. i like that smell. the best advantage of wool is that you, errr, ummm .. don't have to wash
it very much. i go almost a whole week with one jersey commuting (i'm "evaluating" the acido right
now -- so far so good).

it sounds a lot grosser than it is. honest.

nothing beats it in the cold. & 'specially in the cold when wet. and

they

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aren't bad in the heat, either. i've used the same jersey from 45 (w/ arm warmers) to 104 (umm,
without). great for touring (never wash).
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david reuteler

Tour alone a lot, do you?

pat in TX

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I have some Pearl Izumi gloves that are semi-windproof, and good down to

just

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below freezing. They're like "spring skiing" gloves. They get a lot of

use --

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for biking, skiing, and all around cold weather wear. I got them for Xmas

7-8

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years ago. And despite all that use, they still look great.

Matt O.

Do you ever use knee warmers? I have some leg warmers, but I am wondering about just using knee
warmers. I can't bring myself to buy knickers. If so, which brand?

Pat in TX

Pat <[email hidden]> wrote:
: Tour alone a lot, do you?

that was mean.

...

but .. err, yea, mostly. i also subsist almost entirely on bean burritos.
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Doug Toronto

(and everyone else)

Thanks, Doug, and everyone for your thoughts.

I'm in New England, not So.Cal., but the temperature ranges you described are about what I was
wondering about.

Thanks again!