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  1. "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

    I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
    about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
    importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
    Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
    deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
    bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
    a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
    You can even get a chopper bicycle!

    Isn't this cute?

    http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm

    (I meant the girl)

    Hang Up and Drive

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
    been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
    back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
    never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
    with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
    and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
    pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
    the bike itself is probably worth.

    As I looked up, with murder in my heart, off she went, oblivious to
    what had just happened behind her. I hope that phone call was her
    boyfriend, dumping her.

    Even before the accident, my motorcycle was no gleaming machine -- no
    snarling, customized Harley with the chrome pipes polished to within an
    inch of its owner's life. It's an '86 Honda Shadow. At 500cc, it's
    nimble enough for city riding while packing enough power for the road,
    as long as the road isn't too long. The seat's kinda ripped up, there's
    some rust and it's got its share of dings and dents. But it runs OK,
    costs about $4 at the gas pump and, best of all, you can park it pretty
    much where you like.

    It's also a freakin' death trap.

    The most hard-core biker -- even the biggest fat guy straddling the
    baddest hog -- knows that riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous.
    There's no such thing as a "minor" motorcycle accident, aside from
    maybe dropping the bike on your foot. We know this, but we accept the
    risk of riding.

    Why? Well, some of us are probably just stupid. There's the thrill
    factor, of course, and it is fun. It's also relatively cheap, you can
    maneuver through heavy traffic and you always look cooler than even the
    coolest dude in his Euro sports car. Because you are cool, and he's
    just a loser who dropped 60 grand on a penis extender.

    Why is it that only a handful of states have made it illegal to talk on
    the phone while driving? Driving is not something you do as an
    afterthought, OK? You're hurtling down the road behind the wheel of a
    3,000-pound vehicle (more like 7,000 pounds in that idiotic destroyer
    of worlds, the Hummer) and it doesn't take a physicist to figure out
    that if you hit a human being -- astride a motorcycle, riding a bicycle
    or on foot -- you're going to do some damage.

    And it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an IT guy or a professional
    poker player to understand that anything you do -- like talking on the
    phone -- that distracts you from the business of driving increases the
    chances of causing a serious accident.

    So do everybody a favor and turn off your cell phone while you drive.
    (It's OK. Your important life can wait while you zip over to the mall.)
    If you have to make a call this very minute, pull over. This ain't
    exactly brain surgery, but it might help prevent some of it, you know?

    Then there are the vehicles themselves. Hummers aside, have you seen
    the size of some these, these ... well, when Paw drove to town we used
    to call them pickup trucks. Now? Pickup trucks on steroids, maybe. (A
    truck that seats six adults: What genius dreamed that one up?)

    They're huge. They ride high. Too high. There's a hood the size of
    Rhode Island out in front of you, blotting out the sun. It makes it
    even harder to see what's out there. If it was easy to miss a biker
    when you were driving your Volvo station wagon, well, try checking your
    field of vision in one of these mesomorphic babies. Of course, you're
    probably so busy cranking up that Slayer CD that you'd miss Sonoma
    Sammy at full throttle on his Fatboy. RIP, Sammy.

    Car manufacturers are also tarting up their vehicles with all sorts of
    things that, when used like most humans tend to use them, distract you
    from watching the road. GPS (What? You can't pull over and read a
    map?), high-end sound systems requiring your full attention to operate
    and -- what in God's name were they thinking? -- in-dash video
    monitors: These have no place in a motor vehicle. Cars exist to convey
    you from one place to another. They are not concert halls or TV
    babysitters for cranky children. (Teach the kid to read. Better yet,
    teach him to love to read, then give him a book, fer crissake.)

    What about the motorcycles themselves? They're bigger, faster and more
    dangerous than ever. Why would anyone want to ride a motorcycle capable
    of doing 150 mph? So they can scrape you off the road with a spatula
    instead of dumping you in a body bag?

    But the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period.

    (many replies at this link)

    http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,68769-0.html

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
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  2. "donquijote1954" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

    I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
    about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
    importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
    Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
    deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
    bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
    a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
    You can even get a chopper bicycle!

    Isn't this cute?

    http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm

    (I meant the girl)

    Hang Up and Drive

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light

    Maybe you should pay attention to the road instead of the driver in the car
    and if they have a phone to their ear or not.

  3. donquijote1954 said:

    "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

    I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
    about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
    importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
    Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
    deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
    bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
    a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
    You can even get a chopper bicycle!

    Isn't this cute?

    http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm

    (I meant the girl)

    Hang Up and Drive

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
    been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
    back seat.

    You had one more choice: Stop the bike properly....
    Sounds like some riding lessons are in order....

    --Rayvan

    Hint: A motorcycle stops faster if you use the brakes properly because
    rubber has much better grip than does metal and flesh...

  4. donquijote1954 said:

    "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

    .....#1 nemesis = inattentive RIDER!......

    Quoted message said:


    Hang Up and Drive

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her,

    So, you had time to note what sex the driver was and what she was doing
    inside her car......but weren't ready to stop if she did something stupid.

    You say you were at the speed limit......I don't know about where you
    are from, but we have a rule that you must be able to stop in half the
    distance visible in your lane and a 'two second' rule for when you are
    following a vehicle.

  5. "BrianNZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

    ....#1 nemesis = inattentive RIDER!......

    Quoted message said:


    Hang Up and Drive

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her,

    So, you had time to note what sex the driver was and what she was doing
    inside her car......but weren't ready to stop if she did something stupid.

    You say you were at the speed limit......I don't know about where you are
    from, but we have a rule that you must be able to stop in half the
    distance visible in your lane and a 'two second' rule for when you are
    following a vehicle.

    It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
    "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
    rider.

  6. Dt Lemons 1900 said:

    It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
    "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
    rider.

    That's 'Cager' to you.

    Statistically speaking, the car driver is found to be at fault in just
    over 75 percent of all car-bike crashes, according to the NHTSA. So no,
    it's not ALWAYS the cager's fault. Just most of the time.

    As for the rest of Donkey-Hotay's original post: complete drivel.
    Cagers in metro areas run over bicyclists at an alarming rate, as well.
    Robbing yourself of a motorcycle's potentially life-saving horsepower
    and handling for the sake of pedal power is nonsensical.

    Tim Kreitz
    2003 ZX7R
    2000 ZX6R
    http://www.timkreitz.com

  7. Dt Lemons 1900 said:


    It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
    "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
    rider.

    The other day, when a guy asked me why I thought there were so many
    accidents involving bikes where the driver pulled out in front of
    them......I put a lot of the blame on speeding motorcyclists, who will
    swear black and blue that they were doing the speed limit when the
    accident happened (that way it IS the cars fault....no-one wants a ticket!).

    I understand the motorcyclists mentality all too well.....I am
    one!.....and Iv'e been on the receiving end of of 'blind' drivers....but
    Iv'e also had many near misses where it was entirely my own fault. Stay
    alert, stay alive!

    To avoid rear ending a vehicle, you must stay at a reasonable distance
    behind them.

  8. "Tim Kreitz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dt Lemons 1900 said:

    It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of
    the
    "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
    rider.

    That's 'Cager' to you.

    Statistically speaking, the car driver is found to be at fault in just
    over 75 percent of all car-bike crashes, according to the NHTSA. So no,
    it's not ALWAYS the cager's fault. Just most of the time.

    As for the rest of Donkey-Hotay's original post: complete drivel.
    Cagers in metro areas run over bicyclists at an alarming rate, as well.
    Robbing yourself of a motorcycle's potentially life-saving horsepower
    and handling for the sake of pedal power is nonsensical.

    Tim Kreitz
    2003 ZX7R
    2000 ZX6R
    http://www.timkreitz.com

    Life-saving horsepower?????

  9. donquijote1954 said:


    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
    been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
    back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
    never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
    with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
    and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
    pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
    the bike itself is probably worth.

    All this proves is that you were either tail-gating or innatentive.

  10. donquijote1954 said:

    What about the motorcycles themselves? They're bigger, faster and more
    dangerous than ever. Why would anyone want to ride a motorcycle capable
    of doing 150 mph? So they can scrape you off the road with a spatula
    instead of dumping you in a body bag?

    Don't crash and 150 MPH and faster is an Adrenalin rush and then some.
    Just do it where there is no chance of traffic, like way out in the
    desert. 170-180+ for 10 miles and losing a CHP made my day back in 1973.
    Of course the road was dead straight and slightly downhill for over 11
    miles and I had no hope of combing my hair for about a week (no helmet)
    but I would do it again. Death wish, I guess.
    --
    Bill (Sleepless biker) Baka

  11. Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

    hehehe.....as a convicted drunk driver and habitual speeder, I can only
    assume you lost a family member to a speeding drunk driver to call them
    'MURDERERS'.......Iv'e never hurt anyone 🙂 LOL.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    donquijote1954 said:

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
    been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
    back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle.

    Oh, baloney! Did she have working brake lights? Were you following at a
    decent distance? (Do you know the two-second rule?) Since it was at a
    traffic light, chances are the speed limit was 45 mph or less. Do you
    practice hard braking? Obviously not.

    --
    Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
    faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dt Lemons 1900' YEAHRIGHT said:

    It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
    "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
    rider.

    Oh, baloney! Some of us bikers know we're more exposed to traffic
    stupidity, so we advocate reasonable following distances jut for this
    sort of thing.

    --
    Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
    faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dt Lemons 1900' YEAHRIGHT said:

    "Tim Kreitz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dt Lemons 1900 said:

    It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of
    the
    "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
    rider.

    That's 'Cager' to you.

    Statistically speaking, the car driver is found to be at fault in just
    over 75 percent of all car-bike crashes, according to the NHTSA. So no,
    it's not ALWAYS the cager's fault. Just most of the time.

    As for the rest of Donkey-Hotay's original post: complete drivel.
    Cagers in metro areas run over bicyclists at an alarming rate, as well.
    Robbing yourself of a motorcycle's potentially life-saving horsepower
    and handling for the sake of pedal power is nonsensical.

    Tim Kreitz
    2003 ZX7R
    2000 ZX6R
    http://www.timkreitz.com

    Life-saving horsepower?????

    Yes. On a bicycle, the only way to get out of a situation is to stop.
    With a motorcycle, there's also the option to get out of there.

    Consider if I'm stopped at the end of a queue of cars waiting at a red
    light. I monitor my rear-view mirror and see a car heading towards me
    faster than it ought to: I sneak over between cars and ahead a few, and
    avoid a rear-end collision.

    Consider if I'm cruising along the freeway and some inattentive cager
    decides to change lanes into me (typically after a merge). Depending on
    where I am, I could brake hard and still have to deal with the
    possibility of the cager also braking hard or the car behind me not
    braking hard ... or accelerate out of there. (Which, since I keep good
    following distance, I have room to do.)

    So if you're not an experienced motorcycle rider, don't be quick to
    dismiss possibilities you haven't thought of.

    --
    Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
    faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml

  15. bill said:

    Don't crash and 150 MPH and faster is an Adrenalin rush and then some.
    Just do it where there is no chance of traffic, like way out in the
    desert. 170-180+ for 10 miles and losing a CHP made my day back in 1973.
    Of course the road was dead straight and slightly downhill for over 11
    miles and I had no hope of combing my hair for about a week (no helmet)
    but I would do it again. Death wish, I guess.

    What bike were you on in 73 that could do 170~180+?

    Or should I ask what *drugs* were you on?
    --
    "Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
    [email hidden]
    AMD Opteron 146 (@2.8) and 6.1 GHz of other AMD power...
    http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 48435

    2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385
    1980 CB750F SuperSport "CoolerKing"

  16. "donquijote1954" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
    been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
    back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
    never touched her.

    You must have some pretty [censored] tyres... There's no part of my bike that
    will stop it faster than the brakes and tyres...

    P.S. Stop tailgating.

    --
    RCOS #7
    IBA# 11465
    http://imagesdesavions.com

  17. donquijote1954 said:

    "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So

    I've recently read that the #1 nemesis is the inattentive rider. A
    different perspective altogether.

    Greg

    Quoted message said:

    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

    Quoted message said:


    I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
    about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
    importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
    Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
    deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
    bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
    a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
    You can even get a chopper bicycle!

    Isn't this cute?

    http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm

    (I meant the girl)

    Hang Up and Drive

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
    been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
    back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
    never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
    with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
    and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
    pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
    the bike itself is probably worth.

    As I looked up, with murder in my heart, off she went, oblivious to
    what had just happened behind her. I hope that phone call was her
    boyfriend, dumping her.

    Even before the accident, my motorcycle was no gleaming machine -- no
    snarling, customized Harley with the chrome pipes polished to within an
    inch of its owner's life. It's an '86 Honda Shadow. At 500cc, it's
    nimble enough for city riding while packing enough power for the road,
    as long as the road isn't too long. The seat's kinda ripped up, there's
    some rust and it's got its share of dings and dents. But it runs OK,
    costs about $4 at the gas pump and, best of all, you can park it pretty
    much where you like.

    It's also a freakin' death trap.

    The most hard-core biker -- even the biggest fat guy straddling the
    baddest hog -- knows that riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous.
    There's no such thing as a "minor" motorcycle accident, aside from
    maybe dropping the bike on your foot. We know this, but we accept the
    risk of riding.

    Why? Well, some of us are probably just stupid. There's the thrill
    factor, of course, and it is fun. It's also relatively cheap, you can
    maneuver through heavy traffic and you always look cooler than even the
    coolest dude in his Euro sports car. Because you are cool, and he's
    just a loser who dropped 60 grand on a penis extender.

    Why is it that only a handful of states have made it illegal to talk on
    the phone while driving? Driving is not something you do as an
    afterthought, OK? You're hurtling down the road behind the wheel of a
    3,000-pound vehicle (more like 7,000 pounds in that idiotic destroyer
    of worlds, the Hummer) and it doesn't take a physicist to figure out
    that if you hit a human being -- astride a motorcycle, riding a bicycle
    or on foot -- you're going to do some damage.

    And it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an IT guy or a professional
    poker player to understand that anything you do -- like talking on the
    phone -- that distracts you from the business of driving increases the
    chances of causing a serious accident.

    So do everybody a favor and turn off your cell phone while you drive.
    (It's OK. Your important life can wait while you zip over to the mall.)
    If you have to make a call this very minute, pull over. This ain't
    exactly brain surgery, but it might help prevent some of it, you know?

    Then there are the vehicles themselves. Hummers aside, have you seen
    the size of some these, these ... well, when Paw drove to town we used
    to call them pickup trucks. Now? Pickup trucks on steroids, maybe. (A
    truck that seats six adults: What genius dreamed that one up?)

    They're huge. They ride high. Too high. There's a hood the size of
    Rhode Island out in front of you, blotting out the sun. It makes it
    even harder to see what's out there. If it was easy to miss a biker
    when you were driving your Volvo station wagon, well, try checking your
    field of vision in one of these mesomorphic babies. Of course, you're
    probably so busy cranking up that Slayer CD that you'd miss Sonoma
    Sammy at full throttle on his Fatboy. RIP, Sammy.

    Car manufacturers are also tarting up their vehicles with all sorts of
    things that, when used like most humans tend to use them, distract you
    from watching the road. GPS (What? You can't pull over and read a
    map?), high-end sound systems requiring your full attention to operate
    and -- what in God's name were they thinking? -- in-dash video
    monitors: These have no place in a motor vehicle. Cars exist to convey
    you from one place to another. They are not concert halls or TV
    babysitters for cranky children. (Teach the kid to read. Better yet,
    teach him to love to read, then give him a book, fer crissake.)

    What about the motorcycles themselves? They're bigger, faster and more
    dangerous than ever. Why would anyone want to ride a motorcycle capable
    of doing 150 mph? So they can scrape you off the road with a spatula
    instead of dumping you in a body bag?

    But the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period.

    (many replies at this link)

    http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,68769-0.html

    WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
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    BIKE FOR PEACE
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  18. Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), donquijote1954
    trolled in rec.autos.driving:

    <snip of alot of [censored]>

  19. Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS said:
    donquijote1954 said:

    I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
    the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
    phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
    traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
    words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
    for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
    ear).

    Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
    unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
    been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
    back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
    never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
    with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
    and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
    pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
    the bike itself is probably worth.

    All this proves is that you were either tail-gating or innatentive.

    In 15 years of almost daily motorcycle riding I never rear ended a car,
    nor came remotely close. The same rules as bicycles, keep you eye on ALL
    possible hazards.
    I had a friend get a broken hip, but even that was not his fault since
    some really old (antique) lady turned left in front of him and even
    though he tried to lay it down the car clipped the rear of his bike and
    tossed him at about 50 MPH.
    Whenever you are on the road, Bike, cage, or even walking, you are at
    the mercy of idiots.

    --
    Bill (Sleepless biker) Baka

  20. "donquijote1954" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
    listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
    is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

    I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
    about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
    importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
    Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
    deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
    bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
    a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
    You can even get a chopper bicycle!

    http://bicycleaustin.info/justice/
    not the solution

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