Street uni with Twenty-G tire

I think it's becuase the seat is uber fat and the frame has a long(ish)
seat tube.

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this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

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Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
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Its exactly 2.5" wide. And much taller than a trials tire let alone that
a trials tires height is added to by the knobs. The tires has a ton of
air in it too so its supa bounce.

Also, that frame is going to snap, I need to make a new one.

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how is it when it comes to riding? i'm sure the short cranks make it
difficult to control such a big heavy tyre.

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Is that a 19" tyre? I might get one of them if it is.

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Yeah, and they have more estrogen than me, too. Now *that* takes guts.

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Yes. That's how street unis should be. I've always thought that street
unis should be a thing of their own, not just a replicant of trials
unis. For street riding to really become something of its own and not
overshadowed by trials, then the unis themselves should become
specialized.

Quite a few people say that 'street will never get big unless real
street unis emerge'. And I have to say I agree. In future, people
should start experimenting like Spencer did, by building up a super
strong 20" wheelset, comprised of a top end BMX rim, and a decent 20"
BMX tyre such as a 20x2.35 or 2.4 slick tyre. The frames should too be
made specific to street, such as been relatively narrow to fit
perfectly around a BMX tyre, and a decent strong steel designed frame.

This should give street unis a smoother riding feel due to the slightly
narrower tyre and a slightly larger diamater rim. Trials unis should be
and are based off trials bikes, whilst street unis should really be
based off BMXs (ie, street-specific steel frames with 20" BMX rims and
slick BMX tyres).

Some people are gonna disagree with me, saying that trials unis allow
them to do both street and trials.. But, hey, if these 'real' street
unis really develop as a popular thing, then they are more than likely
to improve street riding. It's just like using a typical 24" commuter
uni for both urban cycling and muni-ing, and obviously when you develop
something more specialized, in this case, a municycle, then everything
can improve from there onwards.

I say, why not give it a go? It's about time street riding got it's own
special type of uni.

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bcwheelriderguyhehehehehe said:

Is that a 19" tyre? I might get one of them if it is.

Its 20", No one would make a slight mod tire.

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Nice!

A bit more about the Twenty-g:
http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32649

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I like the way you'r thinkin sponge. A street uni should consist of the
folowing
-Fat ass slick tyre
-strong frame with long neck seat tube that's reiforced
-Short cranks
-Stonger bearing housings
-wide pedals
add on people

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Yeah, and they have more estrogen than me, too. Now *that* takes guts.

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bcwheelriderguyhehehehehe said:

-strong frame with long neck seat tube that's reiforced

alot of street riders(or at least some) have they're seats really
really low(like within an inch of the seatclamp low). Look at Kevin M.
He rides with his seat so low...

for people who don't do that a long seattube would be desirable though.

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this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

tugboat said:

Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
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mornish said:

alot of street riders(or at least some) have they're seats really really
low(like within an inch of the seatclamp low). Look at Kevin M. He
rides with his seat so low...

for people who don't do that a long seattube would be desirable though.

Brian lundgrens seat is at the clamp. Its insane. It would be low for
you miles.

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For riding it all I know is it is really smooth and rolls really nicely.
It feels like I am riding on a perfectly smooth gym floor when I am in
the street.
I havent't done anything at all on it because I hurt my back and I
can't even hop right now, it hurts so bad.

I don't know why the seat is that low, I just put it on to see what it
looked like.

Miles, I just used primer and a couple coats of spray paint.

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Evan is mean.

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-plastic pedals seem good already
-more compact *steel* frame, with a design that makes it a tight fit
around fat 20"/BMX tyres such as a 20x2.4 slick, or the 20-G tyre, as
well, as a strongly designed flat crown that is close to the tyre,
making gliding and foot on tyre tricks much better than on trials
unis.
-Tough, tough, BMX 20" rims, which are mostly much stronger than 19"
trials rims anyway.
-More tyre options, you could choose anything literally, from the BMX
range, which is massive.You can go slick, semi-slick, or treaded dirt
tyres, and a huge range of widths from 1.95"-2.4" and the one off 20-G
tyre width.
-*possibly* More 48 hole 'street' hubs to fit the 48h BMX rims out
there, which in turn makes a stronger wheel that's harder to ruin than
your regular 36H trials wheels.

I think it's onto a winner. To really kick this off, brands should
start making unis like this. Nimbus, KHU, Koxx, and Qu-Ax could all
start making proper 'street' unis, with the sole intention of street,
designing a tough 20" rim made for nothing but strength. As well as
street-specific frames as described above. Just generally, make street
riding a real thing of its own, not a branch-off of trials. Just think
about the wheels street riders buckle the hell out of? A decently built
48 hole strong BMX rim with a 48h splined hub, with a nice slick tyre
is a surefire winner over trials wheels, as they are stronger, in
general.

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Yeah Sponge, I like the option of choosing between hundreds of tires
instead of the 5 or so good trials tires out there.

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Evan is mean.

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Trials unis are becoming more and more specialized as we speak. Just
look at the XTP! 🙄.

Street should move on as well, I think, it's the way forward for any
discipline that wants to become successful.

A long time ago, several decades infact, BMXs and 20" trials bikes were
practically the same, the trials bikes were copies of the old 60's and
70's styles of BMX bikes. But, as the years moved on, the two different
types of 20" bikes became more and more different to eachother, and now
they are almost perfect for their respective riding styles.

BMX/Trials bikes from the 70s-ish were almost identical, now:

BMX:
-Tough, short, steel frames, with 14mm dropouts for the needed
strength.

-steel hollow cranks with multi-splines (think KH Onza/Profile style
stuff) as well as the steel pinch-bolt type cranks with 8 or 10 splines
(think Qu-Ax/KH 2004).

-chunky flat pedals (Odyssey JC pedals are a typical example)
- wing-style handlebars, almost always steel.
-short, fat stems.
-sometimes BMX frames and forks don't have any brake mounts for
brakeless riding.

Trials bikes:
-Reasonably tough, long, aluminium frames, with 10mm dropouts.
-aluminium solid cranks, normally square taper or ISIS (never
Profile/KHOnza type stuff).
-caged low-profile grippy pedals built for strong grip.
-either 'flat' or 'riser' handlebars, almost always aluminium
-very long stems.
-almost all frames and forks have 4-bolt magura mounts, or disc brake
mounts

Just see how different those two have got, and the two sports have
gotten so good as a result of the bikes becoming more and more specific
over the years. If BMXs and trials bikes remained relatively similar
like Trials unis and so called 'street' unis do, then BMX and
biketrials would never really be as big or successful as they are now.

I think the Koxx XTP is the first of many CNC machined aluminium
unicycle frames, soon other brands like Onza, Qu-ax, and KHU will be
catching on. Flat crowns will probably start to disappear on trials uni
frames, and CNC'd curved crowns will start to become standard.

If trials is evolving so much already, why shouldn't street? 2007-2010
are probably going to be the years we see unicycle components really
become specific to disciplines. We may even see a dramatic difference
arise between Freeride and XC unis. Of course different disciplines
overlap eachother here and there, but having a specific uni for a
specific discipline helps loads: just how much better are freestyle
unis for freestyle than trials unis? Just how much better are munis
than 24" commuters at mountain unicycling?

Just my thoughts, put into debating-mode :o 🙄 . More street
riders should be brave about this, and do what Spencer has done, like
when you next break something on your trials wheel, get yourself
together a GOOD 20" BMX-orientated uni wheel, and see the difference.

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one thing I don't like about having unicycles completely specialized for
each style, is then you practically need a uni for each style. I would
get both the muni and freesytle uni I want, but I feel like I would
barely ride each of them. If you had specialized street, trials,
frestyle, muni, and XC unis, then you would barely use each one.

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dan de man said:

this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

tugboat said:

Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
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mornish said:

one thing I don't like about having unicycles completely specialized for
each style, is then you practically need a uni for each style. I would
get both the muni and freesytle uni I want, but I feel like I would
barely ride each of them. If you had specialized street, trials,
frestyle, muni, and XC unis, then you would barely use each one.

You'v seem to have proven that multipul unis for one style is doable.

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Most people are truly in love with only ONE unicycle discipline. Any
other less important disciplines to them, can quite easily be done less
and less. So, for example, I'm totally crazed about trials, but
occassionaly do a tiny bit of muni and street when I'm bored. I'm sure
others are like this too.

But, if you're properly into more than 1 type of unicycling, then why
not just get more specialized unis to suit them? Because, as a result,
that discipline that you are riding, will become more fun to ride as
you have a unicycle that's far better suited to it. Almost any unicycle
can be used for almost any discipline (with the exceptions of the big
wheels) but not quite perfectly.. Still doable though!

If your true unicycling passion is one thing, and everything else is
something extra to do when you're bored, then one uni is fine really.
But if you are really into loads of unicycling disciplines, there is
little reason as to why not get a good specialized unicycle for each
discipline, so you can get the most out of it.

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mornish said:

one thing I don't like about having unicycles completely specialized for
each style, is then you practically need a uni for each style. I would
get both the muni and freesytle uni I want, but I feel like I would
barely ride each of them. If you had specialized street, trials,
frestyle, muni, and XC unis, then you would barely use each one.

Yeah, plus, there would be a lot more incompatibility, and a lot more
"does this part fit on this?" threads.

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what I think would be great ofr unicycling, is if everyone starts making
universal bearing sizes and hub widths(with the exception of coker
hubs).
then it would be alot less confusing buying parts and putting together
custom unicycles because you would now that everything would work
together.

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this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

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Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
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