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  1. skrobo said:

    hmm
    I start to "explode" when i hit about 10 o' clock and leave the ground
    w/ the pedal at about 8 o' clock

    i can't jump more than 4 feet the way Monocyclist described.

    I don't know if I could "jump" at that earlier point. My left foot is
    always forward when I jump and at 3/9 o'clock. Maybe I begin my "push"
    just prior to that horizontal position, but no much sooner; it just
    doesn't "feel" right. But then again, maybe that's 'cause I'm just not
    used to doing it any other way, but I guess I could try it.😄

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  2. skrobo said:

    wooops
    heres the pic!!
    [image:
    http://www.unicyclist.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=286549&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=89efbc741ef6b75847982f341552caf9]

    I seem to find it waaay easier to rolling hop forward off of something,
    like a curb, or a slightly raised section. From the pic above, skrobo
    seems to be able to get HUGE distance from just regular, flat ground.
    WHen I try that, my distance is significantly less than if I jump from
    a defined *edge* of something, like either a curb or in the case of my
    video, "rolling hop help", a 3' wide concrete waterway. 😄

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  3. I know what you mean Terry, I too can jump alot further when I'm
    actually jumping off or gapping. I don't know why, maybe just
    psychological, can't think of any reason for it. For me though,
    skrobo's scene would still work for me. I would aim to jump across the
    grass and land beyond the curb.

    Anyway...

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    doesn't really matter, It's just what the body does.

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  4. i also need help with the rolling hop. i think i could do it if i could
    compress my tyre better. any tips?

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  5. KlownLife said:

    I know what you mean Terry, I too can jump alot further when I'm
    actually jumping off or gapping. I don't know why, maybe just
    psychological, can't think of any reason for it. For me though,
    skrobo's scene would still work for me. I would aim to jump across the
    grass and land beyond the curb.

    Anyway...

    Well today I added at least 1.5 feet to my rolling hop distance.
    Although it doesn't look as far on video, (below) we measured the
    landing point at exactly 61",or 5'1". For an old guy, on a bulky MUni,
    that's not too shabby!

    I want to get it up to a solid 6'. This particular test didn't give me
    much room (about 8'😉 to get my speed up before the launch. And it also
    probably helped that I was hopping downward from an elevated area.😄

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  6. I don't have the time to practice rolling hops, even though it is one of
    my long term goals. The times I have tried it, I get the same results
    as Terry describes.

    After reading this thread a few days ago, I started to think about a
    way to aproach it mentally. Having the pedals in 6 and 12 o'clock
    before the jump seems wierd for me and then timing the bounce upward,
    so I started think about it with running up to do a long jump. Seems
    like they would be similar motions. The next time I get on the MUni to
    play with rolling hops, I will approach it from that "angle" to see if
    it works for me in my head. That might help with the timing.

    cheers.

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  7. As skrobo's picture illustrates, there's a lot of upper body motion
    involved in a rolling hop... to gain some upward momentum you need to
    fling your torso / free hand upwards when you take off. To prepare,
    lower your torso just before you take off.

    As for pedal position, it doesn't matter where the pedals are if you
    use your body to take off. When riding muni you rarely have the chance
    to take off from your preferred position, so developing the skill to
    take off from any pedal orientation is crucial. Until you get that
    skill, try to take off with your back foot between 6 and 9 o'clock...
    it's all a matter of personal preference.

    To get a little extra oomph in your takeoff, try and tap the pedals
    downwards with your toes just as you take off... like you were doing a
    side hop. This compresses the tire and gives you a little more upward
    momentum as you begin to fling your torso upwards.

    To add airtime to your rolling hop, you need to tuck. Suck those knees
    and feet up towards your chest, throw the wheel out in front of you.
    The higher you get the wheel the more airtime you'll get. Don't worry
    about the landing so much... as long as you have sufficient speed going
    into the hop you'll stick the landing no matter how far forward the
    wheel is when you land.

    You can also practice the tuck doing a static forward hop or a sidehop.
    Getting the wheel out in front of you is crucial to getting more
    clearance from your hop.

    As for the sidehop, I don't see you leaning very far into the hop.
    Think of it as falling sideways, and just before you completely lose
    your [censored] and fall on your face, tap the pedals (as hard as you can) to
    compress the tire, then do the hop. Again, fling your torso upwards...
    but angled towards your desired landing. Tuck the wheel underneath you
    to stick the landing. The more you fall sideways, the more you have to
    tuck, but it'll come naturally.

    Practice! Good luck.

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