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low fat is superior to low-kcal

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  1. the study reviewed 16 low fat diets even,++and found that even without restricting calories, there
    was a significant weight loss.

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  2. wuzzy <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    the study reviewed 16 low fat diets even,++and found that even without restricting calories, there
    was a significant weight loss.

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    How is it possible to lose weight without restricting calories? According to some in this group,
    losing weight without retricting calories is against the law of conservation of energy. Unless you
    meant to say "without intentionally restricting calories".

    Restricting fat in the diet will cause temporary weight loss. I've never questioned this. But it is
    virtually impossible to restrict fat indefinitely and when (not if) one ceases to restrict dietary
    fat, one will regain all the lost weight and then some. Hence the fact that most people who diet by
    restricting fat will eventually get fatter in the end. No pun intended.

    TC

  3. On 22 Oct 2003 07:46:56 -0700, [email hidden] (tcomeau) posted:

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    wuzzy <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    the study reviewed 16 low fat diets even,++and found that even without restricting calories,
    there was a significant weight loss.

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    How is it possible to lose weight without restricting calories?

    Depends what you mean by restricting. It is not possible to lose weight unless calories "IN" are
    less than calories "OUT".

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    According to some in this group, losing weight without retricting calories is against the law of
    conservation of energy. Unless you meant to say "without intentionally restricting calories".

    What are you weaseling about now?

    Weight (fat) loss needs a hypocaloric diet. No other way.

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    Restricting fat in the diet will cause temporary weight loss.

    The fat/carb/protein is pretty irrelevant. The only thing that must be "restricted" below
    requirements, is energy (calories).

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    I've never questioned this.

    Questioned what, exactly? Hot weather causes weight reduction?

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    But it is virtually impossible to restrict fat indefinitely

    No it's not. You just don't add refined fat to your diet, and avoid cream and too much fat on meat.
    Simple. No problem for life.

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    and when (not if) one ceases to restrict dietary fat, one will regain all the lost weight and then
    some. Hence the fact that most people who diet by restricting fat will eventually get fatter in the
    end. No pun intended.

    And do you think the same doesn't happen with going off carb restricted diets? (Not the one you're
    on, 40% carb cals is NOT low carbing)

    It depends on what people eat. Restricting anything (macronutrient) is often doomed to failure in
    compliance. Calories MUST be reduced below need, for weight loss, and must be equal to need, for
    weight maintenance. No need to buggarise around with macronutrient ratios, but it is generally
    automatic (no obsessions required) if you eat only wholefoods (or as close to wholefoods as
    possible). If energy requirements are modest, then avoiding high calorie foods is wise, like dairy
    and meat fat. Other than this, a varied (as varied as possible) wholefood (as wholefoods as you can)
    diet will be optimal.

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