FS: Liberator Airborne MTB

MattB said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

GeeDubb said:

"Giant Yukon MTB Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

> So JD, what do you do to keep in shape over the winter months?
>
> MTB Girl
>

He has about a zillion bikes and he rides them. Souther California
doesn't get all that cold....kind of like here in Phoenix though it
is down in the upper 30's right now.....brrrrrr

Gary

Oh, 30's. Oooh! So bad.

Try a freaking blizzard here. 20F, 40 mph wind, and 24" of snow
expected. Skiing should be awesome this weekend!

DPS was closed, so my office was. Of course, that was after I got
there and the lights were out. Looks like some nice sleeping weather
for the rest of the morning.

Ooh, sounds rough! 😉
Actually 2' in the city is a huge mess. We're pretty good at dealing
with cold and snow here but the front range always amazes me with how
paralyzed they become after a good winter storm.

Doesn't bother me much. I'm used to driving in the east coast ice
storms. This stuff is just a fluffy carpet.

Quoted message said:

Are the enjoyable spin class views out the window or of the other
participants?

At the risk of upsetting Penny, other participants. Let's just say I'm
out numbered 8 to 1. 🙂

Quoted message said:

I almost bailed on work to ski Monarch today but they only have 9" from
this storm so far. It's supposed to keep up today so I think I'll slack
off work tomorrow for (hopefully) an even bigger day.

MmmmmPowder.

Matt

I'm trying to think about how I will do in it over the weekend. Powder
doesn't agree with my skiing skills. It looks as if you really need to
do the steep stuff in order to move.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Ride-A-Lot said:

MattB wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

At the risk of upsetting Penny, other participants. Let's just say I'm
out numbered 8 to 1. 🙂

I figured as much 🙂, and I think we may have chased Penny away, at
least for a while.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I almost bailed on work to ski Monarch today but they only have 9"
from this storm so far. It's supposed to keep up today so I think I'll
slack off work tomorrow for (hopefully) an even bigger day.

MmmmmPowder.

Matt

I'm trying to think about how I will do in it over the weekend. Powder
doesn't agree with my skiing skills. It looks as if you really need to
do the steep stuff in order to move.

Do a powder clinic. It's different technique from packed or groomed
snow, but not necessarily hard. One you get it it's amazing and
effortless compared to skiing firmer snow. Before you get it, it's
frustrating and exhausting.
The quiet, bouncy, weightless sensation is hard to beat. If it's really
deep and you keep your bindings set pretty low, you should invest in
some kind of powder cord to help find skis when they come off. They can
"submarine" and go pretty far under the snow in a good crash. I've used
a roll of hunter orange tape to make a couple of 3' cords that I just
tied to part of the binding, like the base of a brake, and then tucked
the slack into my pant leg. You can also buy powder cords, but the tape
seems to work about as well and is way cheaper. Either way, it's way
better than digging for your ski while everyone else is whooping it up
and tracking everything out. I've been there (with white skis, no less)!

Matt

GeeDubb said:

"Giant Yukon MTB Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

Quoted message said:

So JD, what do you do to keep in shape over the winter months?

MTB Girl

He has about a zillion bikes and he rides them. Souther California doesn't
get all that cold....kind of like here in Phoenix though it is down in the
upper 30's right now.....brrrrrr

Gary

Had a frost delay with my morning tee time. Of all the injustices...
We turned on the gas heater this morning. Generally run it 2 or 3 days
out of the year. :-)

Ride-A-Lot said:

MattB said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

GeeDubb wrote:

>
> "Giant Yukon MTB Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >
>
>> So JD, what do you do to keep in shape over the winter months?
>>
>> MTB Girl
>>
>
> He has about a zillion bikes and he rides them. Souther California
> doesn't get all that cold....kind of like here in Phoenix though it
> is down in the upper 30's right now.....brrrrrr
>
> Gary

Oh, 30's. Oooh! So bad.

Try a freaking blizzard here. 20F, 40 mph wind, and 24" of snow
expected. Skiing should be awesome this weekend!

DPS was closed, so my office was. Of course, that was after I got
there and the lights were out. Looks like some nice sleeping weather
for the rest of the morning.

Ooh, sounds rough! 😉
Actually 2' in the city is a huge mess. We're pretty good at dealing
with cold and snow here but the front range always amazes me with how
paralyzed they become after a good winter storm.

Doesn't bother me much. I'm used to driving in the east coast ice
storms. This stuff is just a fluffy carpet.

Quoted message said:

Are the enjoyable spin class views out the window or of the other
participants?

At the risk of upsetting Penny, other participants. Let's just say I'm
out numbered 8 to 1. 🙂

Love those odds.... :-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I almost bailed on work to ski Monarch today but they only have 9" from
this storm so far. It's supposed to keep up today so I think I'll slack
off work tomorrow for (hopefully) an even bigger day.

MmmmmPowder.

Matt

I'm trying to think about how I will do in it over the weekend. Powder
doesn't agree with my skiing skills. It looks as if you really need to
do the steep stuff in order to move.

daddy said:

GeeDubb said:

"Giant Yukon MTB Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

Quoted message said:

So JD, what do you do to keep in shape over the winter months?

MTB Girl

He has about a zillion bikes and he rides them. Souther California doesn't
get all that cold....kind of like here in Phoenix though it is down in the
upper 30's right now.....brrrrrr

Gary

Had a frost delay with my morning tee time. Of all the injustices...
We turned on the gas heater this morning. Generally run it 2 or 3 days
out of the year. :-)

Wow, it must be hard for you.
I'm lucky if I can leave my heat off for three months a year, but I
don't pay a cent for A/C! We have a swamp cooler at the office (which is
an old attic) and at home we just open a window.

It's been relatively warm (in the 20's) the last couple of days because
it's been snowing. When the snow stops and the sky clears is when it
gets genuinely cold (like -37 F last year).

Matt

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Had a frost delay with my morning tee time. Of all the injustices...
We turned on the gas heater this morning. Generally run it 2 or 3 days
out of the year. :-)

Wow, it must be hard for you.
I'm lucky if I can leave my heat off for three months a year, but I
don't pay a cent for A/C! We have a swamp cooler at the office (which is
an old attic) and at home we just open a window.

It's been relatively warm (in the 20's) the last couple of days because
it's been snowing. When the snow stops and the sky clears is when it
gets genuinely cold (like -37 F last year).

Matt

A/C is another point... I'd trade my A/C bill to anyone. June,
July, and August are a b*tch. Dual A/C units, one for the upstairs
and downstairs. We generally run the A/C for about 5 to 5 1/2 months
per year. Trade offs eh? :-)

daddy said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Had a frost delay with my morning tee time. Of all the injustices...
We turned on the gas heater this morning. Generally run it 2 or 3 days
out of the year. :-)

Wow, it must be hard for you.
I'm lucky if I can leave my heat off for three months a year, but I
don't pay a cent for A/C! We have a swamp cooler at the office (which is
an old attic) and at home we just open a window.

It's been relatively warm (in the 20's) the last couple of days because
it's been snowing. When the snow stops and the sky clears is when it
gets genuinely cold (like -37 F last year).

Matt

A/C is another point... I'd trade my A/C bill to anyone. June,
July, and August are a b*tch. Dual A/C units, one for the upstairs
and downstairs. We generally run the A/C for about 5 to 5 1/2 months
per year. Trade offs eh? :-)

Yeah, and I bet the skiing isn't that great there either!

Matt

daddy said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Had a frost delay with my morning tee time. Of all the injustices...
We turned on the gas heater this morning. Generally run it 2 or 3 days
out of the year. :-)

Wow, it must be hard for you.
I'm lucky if I can leave my heat off for three months a year, but I
don't pay a cent for A/C! We have a swamp cooler at the office (which is
an old attic) and at home we just open a window.

It's been relatively warm (in the 20's) the last couple of days because
it's been snowing. When the snow stops and the sky clears is when it
gets genuinely cold (like -37 F last year).

Matt

A/C is another point... I'd trade my A/C bill to anyone. June,
July, and August are a b*tch. Dual A/C units, one for the upstairs
and downstairs. We generally run the A/C for about 5 to 5 1/2 months
per year. Trade offs eh? :-)

I dunno, gas bill in Gunrack's not gonna be cheap. Although Matt's new
digs are probably pretty efficient.
16" in Looserville and still snowing *hard*. Don't remember where the
XC ski wax is since the move...Damn, hope it's not still in Salida!

Shawn

Per Giant Yukon MTB Girl:

Quoted message said:

I don't do well with stairmasters; issues with lower back pain.

I've been having that lately too.

My theory is that it's hamstring tightness. Since I've been paddling hard for
an hour or two several days a week, mine have gotten noticeably shorter/tighter.

Years ago, on long walks, it used to hurt until I'd stop, bend over, and stretch
my hamstrings out for a few minutes.

There was a time when I could put both palms flat on the floor - and during that
time, I had zero problems with low back muscle pain.

Been working on the hamstrings lately, but it takes awhile for those things to
stretch out..... Time will tell.
--
PeteCresswell

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A/C is another point... I'd trade my A/C bill to anyone. June,
July, and August are a b*tch. Dual A/C units, one for the upstairs
and downstairs. We generally run the A/C for about 5 to 5 1/2 months
per year. Trade offs eh? :-)

Yeah, and I bet the skiing isn't that great there either!

Matt

As long as they don't "salt" the roads, I wouldn't mind
the snow. Just got so spoiled with the cars practically lasting
forever here.

daddy said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A/C is another point... I'd trade my A/C bill to anyone. June,
July, and August are a b*tch. Dual A/C units, one for the upstairs
and downstairs. We generally run the A/C for about 5 to 5 1/2 months
per year. Trade offs eh? :-)

Yeah, and I bet the skiing isn't that great there either!

Matt

As long as they don't "salt" the roads, I wouldn't mind
the snow. Just got so spoiled with the cars practically lasting
forever here.

Here (Western Colorado) they don't, but they did back in Michigan when I
lived here.
I just get cracked windshields all the time from all the dirt and rocks
on the road. B\Still better than the whole car disintegrating!

Matt

Shawn said:

daddy said:

Quoted message said:

> Had a frost delay with my morning tee time. Of all the injustices...
> We turned on the gas heater this morning. Generally run it 2 or 3 days
> out of the year. :-)

Wow, it must be hard for you.
I'm lucky if I can leave my heat off for three months a year, but I
don't pay a cent for A/C! We have a swamp cooler at the office (which
is an old attic) and at home we just open a window.

It's been relatively warm (in the 20's) the last couple of days
because it's been snowing. When the snow stops and the sky clears is
when it gets genuinely cold (like -37 F last year).

Matt

A/C is another point... I'd trade my A/C bill to anyone. June,
July, and August are a b*tch. Dual A/C units, one for the upstairs
and downstairs. We generally run the A/C for about 5 to 5 1/2 months
per year. Trade offs eh? :-)

I dunno, gas bill in Gunrack's not gonna be cheap. Although Matt's new
digs are probably pretty efficient.
16" in Looserville and still snowing *hard*. Don't remember where the
XC ski wax is since the move...Damn, hope it's not still in Salida!

Shawn

I could send you some...

The gas bill was bad in the old house, over $300 in the colder months.
So far the new place is WAY better in that respect. I guess building
techniques have come a long way in the last 90 years or so.

Matt

MattB said:

Shawn said:

daddy said:

>> Had a frost delay with my morning tee time. Of all the injustices...
>> We turned on the gas heater this morning. Generally run it 2 or 3 days
>> out of the year. :-)
>
> Wow, it must be hard for you.
> I'm lucky if I can leave my heat off for three months a year, but I
> don't pay a cent for A/C! We have a swamp cooler at the office (which
> is an old attic) and at home we just open a window.
>
> It's been relatively warm (in the 20's) the last couple of days
> because it's been snowing. When the snow stops and the sky clears is
> when it gets genuinely cold (like -37 F last year).
>
> Matt

A/C is another point... I'd trade my A/C bill to anyone. June,
July, and August are a b*tch. Dual A/C units, one for the upstairs
and downstairs. We generally run the A/C for about 5 to 5 1/2 months
per year. Trade offs eh? :-)

I dunno, gas bill in Gunrack's not gonna be cheap. Although Matt's new
digs are probably pretty efficient.
16" in Looserville and still snowing *hard*. Don't remember where the
XC ski wax is since the move...Damn, hope it's not still in Salida!

Shawn

I could send you some...

The gas bill was bad in the old house, over $300 in the colder months.
So far the new place is WAY better in that respect. I guess building
techniques have come a long way in the last 90 years or so.

Matt

Does the new place have as cool of a "dewdroom" as the old one had?

JD

Speaking of winter rides, I recall some of my last rides near Ottawa in late
1997. The "big" ice storm hit that knocked out power over two provinces and
several states in the northeast.

It started with several inches of fresh snow on top of the decent base we
already had. Then it turned to freezing rain and stayed that way for days.
When it ended, there were millions of trees snapped from ice load, and
between one and 4 inches of ice coating almost every surface. After a
couple of days, a dusting of now came down and gave some traction to the
glossy surfaces.

We grabbed our bikes and rode everywhere we could, including several areas
that had never been accessible before. We weren't doing any trail damage,
or conflicting with any other trail users, so we had pretty much carte
blanche to go anywhere in the forests - all on a smooth hard surface. Just
had to avoid deadfall, which we even helped to clear so authorities could
get in to assess damages.

It was eerily beautiful and silent, but tragic too. Just in our area
probably one of every ten trees was snapped, and many others were bent
double, so no telling what their long-term prospects were.

Cheers
Gary

"Giant Yukon MTB Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

OK I know it's the end of the season, but I'm trying to get rid of some
stuff and have some space for my Festivus Tree
Besides, I'm still riding, aren't you?

MattB said:

Giant Yukon MTB Girl wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

Serious enquiries only pleasePerfect for the Homeless Psychopath on
your Festivus list!

Matt

"JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I could send you some...

The gas bill was bad in the old house, over $300 in the colder months.
So far the new place is WAY better in that respect. I guess building
techniques have come a long way in the last 90 years or so.

Matt

Does the new place have as cool of a "dewdroom" as the old one had?

JD

The whole pad is a dewdroom. A really nice place. If the garage is heated
(can't remember) then that could be one heck of a dewdroom.

Gary

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per Giant Yukon MTB Girl:

Quoted message said:

I don't do well with stairmasters; issues with lower back pain.I've been having that lately too.

My theory is that it's hamstring tightness. Since I've been paddling hard for
an hour or two several days a week, mine have gotten noticeably shorter/tighter.

Years ago, on long walks, it used to hurt until I'd stop, bend over, and stretch
my hamstrings out for a few minutes.

There was a time when I could put both palms flat on the floor - and during that
time, I had zero problems with low back muscle pain.

Been working on the hamstrings lately, but it takes awhile for those things to
stretch out..... Time will tell.
--
PeteCresswell

I just had my legs checked out by a doc at St. Mikes in Toronto. He
says I have unusually great muscle tone and strength and especially
flexibility. He seriously could not believe I was off ill a short time
ago nor that I'm still in constant chronic pain (long story, surgery
leading to pain leading to fatigue, etc)

During the testing, he finds I'm actually hyperflexible, can touch way
past toes, so it's not the hamstrings. However, he did mention the
pain points on the knees lead him to chrondramalacia (Sp?) of the
patella, commonly referred to I believe in slang as runner's knee, so I
need more work on the quads done to stabilize the area. Thus, back
into the saddle and even more so. Have lost over 20 pounds as a result
and needed to, feel better than ever. Just have to stay away from
running and concentrate on the quads instead.

Then he's impressed with how often and far I can go on the bike (still
considering the constant pain) and told him my medication so I can at
least work through my day. He was floored, said he would be passed out
with that much pain to have to take that much. (I'm used to that one.)
But I will admit, he was a gentleman and an extremely cute one at
that! I told the girls back at the office and they're all checking
their knee situation so they can maybe get referred!

Anyways, at the end of our exam, he tells me to look up Andrew Pruitt
website to get fitted properly for my bike and so I tell him the guys
at my bike shop fitted me well and I actually got the inside trainer so
use the same bike. He was impressed and happy to see I was taking
charge of my health and doing something rather than what most other
patients do suffering my condition for the rest of their life: stay
home and do next to nothing. I'm still young so I want to live
(especially since getting rid of the controller) so I'm appreciating
every second that I can walk talk breath bike and smile! Hmmm, I think
maybe the doctor may have given me his contact info on the website
paper he gave me, is that a hint to contact him? Too bad, I got 3
dates lined up this weekend (Christmas??) and another 3 next week.
Gotta love being single again!

BTW Matt & JD: absolutely no mental issues at all with me, none in the
family either, just normal reactions after living with controlling
lying cheating trolls who spend too much of my money while I stupidly
sign loans for them. I got lots of time on the bike to think about my
big lessons learned while I count my blessings I didn't marry the guy
or have kids with him - and that I got rid of him for the last time!

MTB Girl

"(PeteCresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Per Giant Yukon MTB Girl:

Quoted message said:

I don't do well with stairmasters; issues with lower back pain.

I've been having that lately too.

My theory is that it's hamstring tightness. Since I've been paddling
hard for
an hour or two several days a week, mine have gotten noticeably
shorter/tighter.

Years ago, on long walks, it used to hurt until I'd stop, bend over, and
stretch
my hamstrings out for a few minutes.

There was a time when I could put both palms flat on the floor - and
during that
time, I had zero problems with low back muscle pain.

Been working on the hamstrings lately, but it takes awhile for those
things to
stretch out..... Time will tell.
--
PeteCresswell

Yup, like all my 46 years of living.

Gary

Giant Yukon MTB Girl said:

I just had my legs checked out by a doc at St. Mikes in Toronto. He
says I have unusually great muscle tone and strength and especially
flexibility. He seriously could not believe I was off ill a short time
ago nor that I'm still in constant chronic pain (long story, surgery
leading to pain leading to fatigue, etc)

During the testing, he finds I'm actually hyperflexible, can touch way
past toes, so it's not the hamstrings. However, he did mention the
pain points on the knees lead him to chrondramalacia (Sp?) of the
patella, commonly referred to I believe in slang as runner's knee, so I
need more work on the quads done to stabilize the area. Thus, back
into the saddle and even more so. Have lost over 20 pounds as a result
and needed to, feel better than ever. Just have to stay away from
running and concentrate on the quads instead.

Then he's impressed with how often and far I can go on the bike (still
considering the constant pain) and told him my medication so I can at
least work through my day. He was floored, said he would be passed out
with that much pain to have to take that much. (I'm used to that one.)
But I will admit, he was a gentleman and an extremely cute one at
that! I told the girls back at the office and they're all checking
their knee situation so they can maybe get referred!

Anyways, at the end of our exam, he tells me to look up Andrew Pruitt
website to get fitted properly for my bike and so I tell him the guys
at my bike shop fitted me well and I actually got the inside trainer so
use the same bike. He was impressed and happy to see I was taking
charge of my health and doing something rather than what most other
patients do suffering my condition for the rest of their life: stay
home and do next to nothing. I'm still young so I want to live
(especially since getting rid of the controller) so I'm appreciating
every second that I can walk talk breath bike and smile! Hmmm, I think
maybe the doctor may have given me his contact info on the website
paper he gave me, is that a hint to contact him? Too bad, I got 3
dates lined up this weekend (Christmas??) and another 3 next week.
Gotta love being single again!

BTW Matt & JD: absolutely no mental issues at all with me, none in the
family either, just normal reactions after living with controlling
lying cheating trolls who spend too much of my money while I stupidly
sign loans for them. I got lots of time on the bike to think about my
big lessons learned while I count my blessings I didn't marry the guy
or have kids with him - and that I got rid of him for the last time!

MTB Girl

Hmmm... For some reason I feel the need to psychologically profile you,
though I am not a psychologist. You have a serious self-fetish. If
your here looking for more dates, you won't find them. Well, maybe
Libby might be interested. Just tell him your name is Virginia.

If you are finding these "dates" on the Internet (six in two weeks
sounds like it), then you are delusional to think that more than two of
them will be even semi-normal.

In my final opinion, try too hard and you end up losing your balance.

--
o-o-o-o Dr. Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Giant Yukon MTB Girl said:

Pete, I don't do well with stairmasters; issues with lower back pain.
Therefore the bike is the only thing for me really.
I know $400 is alot, but I think it's well worth the $$ in the long run
- come Spring I'll be right as rain!
I'll be watching movies or listening to my new mp3 player while I pedal
away.

So JD, what do you do to keep in shape over the winter months?

MTB Girl

Core work can help with the back. I "suffered" from occasional lower
back discomfort until I learned a bunch of core exercises a few years
ago. But if you have an actual injury, you may be sort-of screwed.

Riding indoors alone takes a special kind of masochism. Spin classes are
great for maintaining some level of conditioning and there's enough
distraction to make them tolerable, possibly fun. But given that most of
them are an hour long, they keep you in shape to ride for about an hour.
Every Spring, those longer rides are just as hard as last year.

So, if you want more and have snow, go snowshoeing or x-country skiing.

--
Lynn Wallace

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per Giant Yukon MTB Girl:

Quoted message said:

I don't do well with stairmasters; issues with lower back pain.

I've been having that lately too.

My theory is that it's hamstring tightness. Since I've been paddling hard for
an hour or two several days a week, mine have gotten noticeably shorter/tighter.

Years ago, on long walks, it used to hurt until I'd stop, bend over, and stretch
my hamstrings out for a few minutes.

There was a time when I could put both palms flat on the floor - and during that
time, I had zero problems with low back muscle pain.

Been working on the hamstrings lately, but it takes awhile for those things to
stretch out..... Time will tell.

That's a well-known cause. Weak abs are the flip side. Yoga works,
pilates too.

--
Lynn Wallace

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.