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  1. John Childs wrote: "...So far my longest Coker ride has been a metric
    century... But long rides aren't my thing...."

    Steve wrote back: "Um, JC, I think most people consider 60+ miles a
    fairly long ride, even on a bike, hell, even in a car!"

    So here is my question: What makes a LONG ride? Obviously this is
    subjective, so let's weigh in and find out if there is any consensus.
    Include factors like your age and how long you've been riding, in case
    those contribute to the answer.

    Age: 40
    Years riding: 27
    Opinion: 45 miles is still in the medium range, where I could hop on a
    Coker or Schlumpf and just do it right now. I guess LONG to me means
    that I might be sore afterwards and will possibly be suffering in some
    other ways, like urination pain. I think that 60 qualifies as lengthy
    in those regards. Having ridden 89 and 102 miles in a day, I guess we
    may need some new definitions. Perhaps those were 'ultra-long' rides?
    So here is my personal range:
    Tiny: Under 10
    Short: 10-20
    Medium: 20-50
    Long: 50-70
    Ultra: 70+

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  2. I would consider 2 miles would be far to long for me(that is on a 20"
    trials unicycle). I get saddle soreness very quickly and find that
    riding is can be difficult. I tend to fall off whilst riding even
    though I have been riding for over a year! :eek:

    My definition is very different to yours.

    Mike

    [EDIT]
    Age: 17
    Years riding: just over 1
    Opinion: Stated above
    Tiny: Just out of my drive
    Short: 0.25 miles
    Medium: 1-2 miles
    Long: 4-6 miles
    Ultra: 6+ miles

    I might even say all of those were too long...:o

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  3. A long ride is any ride that is significantly further than you've ridden
    before, and where the distance is part of the achievement.

    Anything more "defined" than that smacks of elitism. I have done a
    couple of 50+ mile rides, butnever more than 60 miles. They each took
    most of a day and required all the determination I could muster. A few
    years ago, a 10 mile ride was a major achievement for me. And before
    that, once round the lake without a UPD was a major thing.

    You know if you've done a long ride: your legs hurt, and you feel
    you've done something special.

    If you compare yourself to someone else, then you will make one of the
    two of you feel inadequate. At lease two of the regulars in this forum
    have done 100 miles (160 km) in 10 hours. Aspenmike rides further to
    collect his morning mail than I have ever ridden in my life - and, just
    for a laugh, he does it over high passes in the Colorado mountains.

    But I refuse to accept that I have never done a long ride. Most people
    in the world never even try to ride a unicycle. Most who try fail, and
    most who succeed never get beyond a few yards. Most of those who
    succeed never get beyond a couple of miles, and most of those who do
    never get beyond ten miles. We are all in the elite - but riding a
    one wheeled bike is no achievement at all to anyone else but the rider
    and a few friends.

    If I were to attempt to define a "long ride" in numbers, I would do it
    in hours of saddle time - because it matters what terrain you're on,
    and what size wheel and cranks you have.

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  4. swarbrim said:

    I would consider 2 miles would be far to long for me(that is on a 20"
    trials unicycle). I get saddle soreness very quickly and find that
    riding is can be difficult. I tend to fall off whilst riding even
    though I have been riding for over a year! :eek:

    My definition is very different to yours.

    Mike

    [EDIT]
    Age: 17
    Years riding: just over 1
    Opinion: Stated above
    Tiny: Just out of my drive
    Short: 0.25 miles
    Medium: 1-2 miles
    Long: 4-6 miles
    Ultra: 6+ miles

    I might even say all of those were too long...:o

    You just perfectly described me. Thanks.

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  5. I have a question sort of related to long rides. Do the long distance
    riders do the ride in one "sitting" or do they stop periodically to
    rest. I can only ride about 20 to 30 minutes before I have to stop for
    a minute to rest my "seat" and let the blood circulate again.

    To me, a long ride is about 3 continuous miles on my 29er with no
    stopping. I don't see how people do the 20+ mile rides. I don't want to
    deal with the seat pain that they must endure.

    I have been riding for almost 4 years.

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  6. Not entirely suprisingly (at least to me), I kind of agree with
    Mikefule. But since my parameters changed last week after riding 21 and
    23 miles, I'm going to put mine. (With the realisation that before last
    week 20 miles would definately have been an ultra ride).

    Age - 41
    Years riding - 2
    Tiny - The usual distance that I'll go on days of Extreme Weather/when
    it's dark - 2-4 miles.
    Short - The usual run I do if the weather is OK - 6 miles
    Medium - Either 8 miles (up hill/off road) or 10-12 miles along the
    prom. Done as often as possible when I have the time.
    Long - 15-25 - just possible and have done.
    Ultra - anything over 25 miles. Something to aim for.

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  7. I'd have to say that it's difficult to define a long ride in terms of
    mileage alone. Things like your fitness level, wheel size, previous
    rides, terrain and weather all help to mix things up a bit. Instead,
    I'd probably define a long ride as 'a ride that you set aside a fair
    proportion of the day for where the purpose was just the ride itslef
    and the distance at least half of your personal best'

    That way, rides like the 8 miles each way to work and back that I don't
    consider signifcant now would have fallen in to the Long Ride category
    a couple of years ago when say 6 miles was a challenge.

    For me at the moment, anything over 30 miles would be considered a Long
    Ride, but under that, I'm probably just trying to get somewhere.

    STM

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  8. ... As if a long walk, or a long bike rides are absolutes for the rest
    of the population. It is more realistically a measurement in relation
    to your own fitness, experience, and of course, equipment. If your
    biggest unicycle is a 24", a long ride should have a different meaning
    than someone who owns two Cokers, or a Coker and a 45", like me.

    I guess a simple definition, for me, would be that a "long" ride is one
    that hurts, either in the crotch or legs. But some days are better than
    others in that regard. 🙂

    The longest rides I've done recently are the San Francisco Coker tours,
    at around 42 miles, and the Marathon at Unicon last summer, at 36
    miles. I also did about half of the ride around Lake Tahoe in June, at
    around 35 hilly miles with lots of road camber. Years back, when I
    lived in New York, I did the 5-Boro Bike Tour several times, at 36
    miles. Those were always fun, but always painful in the second half.

    The longest rides I've done were the March of Dimes Superrides I did in
    the early 80s, at 75 kilometers. The first time I did that was on a
    Schwinn Giraffe with a big sprocket up top. Ouch, hard to freemount,
    and much harder to ride than a Schlumpf in high gear!

    But I will ride farther in the future, as I intend to participate in
    the Ride The Lobster race, if I can qualify.

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  9. I'm with Mikefule on the whole a long ride being better than what you
    have done before.

    The most I have done is 80 km or 50 miles, I could easily do more if I
    ate a dinner but so far thats my longest ride done with only a coffee
    and a couple timbits in me.

    This summer when it warms up more I plan on doing a 160 km trip to my
    cottage. I still don't know if I want to do it in a day or two as it
    gets pretty hilly and rough near the end (you need four wheel drive to
    get through some of the hills without getting stuck).

    So without further ado:
    Age: 18
    Years riding: 1.5
    Opinion: Stated above
    Tiny: under 10 km
    Short: 10-20 km
    Medium: 20-40 km
    Long: 40-80 km
    Ultra: 80km plus

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  10. Wheel Rider said:

    I have a question sort of related to long rides. Do the long distance
    riders do the ride in one "sitting" or do they stop periodically to
    rest.

    When I was at my peak a few years ago, I regularly (more than once a
    week) did an hour (12 - 13 miles) without a dismount. A couple of
    times I did 2 hours with out a dismount - around 22 miles.

    For long distance rides, rather than to prove a point, a dismount every
    20 minutes or half an hour is probably wise. You learn to pace
    yourself.

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  11. I tend to take one big break for about a half hour or so to stop at a
    restaurant or the like for a meal about half way through, other than
    that its non stop riding.

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  12. Me on 24":

    tiny: To end of road
    medium: 1-2 km
    long 5-8 km- the fearthest i've ever gone😉
    ultra: 9 km +

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    another bit of advice:
    shut up and ride🙂

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  13. Age: 52
    Years riding: ~3 since I started again.
    Opinion: Over 10 miles is long, more than 20miles is great for those
    who want to do it.
    My personal range:
    Tiny: Under 1 mile
    Short: 5 mile
    Medium: 7 mile
    Long: 10 mile
    Ultra: 20+ mile I have never done more than 12 miles.

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  14. David_Stone said:

    ...What makes a LONG ride? ..

    I've never done more than low 20's in mileage, always on the stock
    Radial 360. I can maintain 10mph with casual effort over this
    distance. I'd like to get a block of time and crack 30 miles. The
    time seems to be the determining factor. The '2hr MTN bike race'
    (http://home.nycap.rr.com/rduhan/xmas_eve_2006/) I just did left me
    MUCH more tired than any 20 mile road ride I've ever done. I think 30
    miles would be no sweat (well, some sweat).

    Improvements since my last 20 miler:
    - 'handlebars'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53697)
    - 'new KH seat with the groove'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=952), (much more
    comfortable for my taint and doesn't cause peeing to hurt).
    - 'a pair of 125s from UDC'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=793) (haven't
    installed these yet - soon I hope)

    Age: 44
    Years riding: 2.5
    Tiny: 2
    Short: 5-10
    Medium: 10-20
    Long: 30+
    Ultra: I need two back-to-back 70km rides to qualify for the Lobster'08
    race. I also would like to do a metric and imperial century.

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  15. I never consider distance as a measure of how long a ride is because it
    is so variable.

    Age: 28
    Years riding 6
    Short: less than 1hr
    Medium: 1-4hrs
    Long: 4+ hours.
    Ultra: 8+ hours

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  16. GizmoDuck said:

    I never consider distance as a measure of how long a ride is because it
    is so variable.

    Age: 28
    Years riding 6
    Short: less than 1hr
    Medium: 1-4hrs
    Long: 4+ hours.
    Ultra: 8+ hours

    This is a good measure for variable amounts of climbing on road rides,
    but hour-for-hour Muni is MUCH more tiring than road riding, no?

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  17. Age: 17
    Years riding: 4, Seriously for the last 7-8 months.
    Short: 25 miles
    Medium: 50 miles
    Long: 100 miles
    Ultra: 100+ miles.

    I plan to do a ultra ride, and long rides. So far, all my rides go from
    a few miles, to 50-60 miles for a day of riding. On my trials I can
    ride easily 10 - 15 miles with no soreness. Once I have gone around 20
    on it, it gets to be painstakingly boring.

    On my coker, I can go forever without getting sore or tired. I just use
    an old, fat KH seat. No modifications to it, and just the regular
    handle on it. I hop on it and just go for miles and turn around once
    it gets dark. Longest was right above 50 miles.

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  18. GizmoDuck said:

    I never consider distance as a measure of how long a ride is because it
    is so variable.

    Age: 28
    Years riding 6
    Short: less than 1hr
    Medium: 1-4hrs
    Long: 4+ hours.
    Ultra: 8+ hours

    You make a good point, Ken. However, no one, realistically, would ride
    a 20" uni for 8 hrs! Generally most of us thinking about long rides are
    on a 29" uni or larger, geared or otherwise.

    I noticed that many "new" riders find that rides of just a few miles
    are tiring. Of course, a lot of their difficulty is related to
    technique (I can't ride an ultimate wheel longer than a few hundred
    yards without getting exhausted bc my technique sucks) as well as to
    muscular conditioning.

    You ride a lot faster than almost anyone, Ken, so it's a good point
    that distance is not the best comparison measure. I ride pretty fast,
    too, so I could revise my list as follows:
    Short: less than an hour
    Medium: 1-3 hrs
    Long: 3-7 hrs
    Ultra: 7-12 (my longest rides took 12 hrs, with about 3 hrs in breaks)

    But yeah, the whole idea of quantifying rides is pretty silly.

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  19. David_Stone said:

    You make a good point, Ken. However, no one, realistically, would ride a
    20" uni for 8 hrs!

    I have!!! Sometimes longer, my rides can consist of riding my trials
    from my house, to everybody else's house to pick them up, ride the few
    miles downtown, and ride there for hours, then riding back and hitting
    spots all along the way. =p

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  20. I have never really done a long ride on a unicycle. My longest being
    22km on a 20", though I have done a lot longer on a 24", I have just
    never figured out the length. If I was using a 29" or a coker I would
    say:

    Age:16
    Years riding: 1
    Tiny: 0 - 5km
    Small: 5 - 15km
    Medium: 15 - 40km
    Large: 40 - 80km
    Ultra: 80+

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