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  1. I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a customer way
    back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day. That way, no matter how
    the rest of the year goes, you know you at least accomplished *something* on
    a bike!

    People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock & Mt. Hamilton)
    about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred people on the mountain,
    some years just a couple dozen.

    There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the only
    food is candy from vending machines in the observatory), nobody to haul up
    your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no patches. Just you & the
    mountain and a bunch of other people enjoying themselves on a bike. And
    probably a bunch of photos on a web page late that night.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

  2. Last water, is a fountain at Grants ranch about 10 miles into the ride. With
    the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grants Ranch. It must be
    really cold on the way down!

    cel

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a customer


    way

    Quoted message said:

    back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day. That way, no matter how
    the rest of the year goes, you know you at least accomplished *something*


    on

    Quoted message said:

    a bike!

    People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock & Mt.


    Hamilton)

    Quoted message said:

    about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred people on the


    mountain,

    Quoted message said:

    some years just a couple dozen.

    There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the only
    food is candy from vending machines in the observatory), nobody to haul up
    your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no patches. Just you & the
    mountain and a bunch of other people enjoying themselves on a bike. And
    probably a bunch of photos on a web page late that night.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

  3. "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Last water, is a fountain at Grants ranch about 10 miles into the ride.
    With
    the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grants Ranch. It must be
    really cold on the way down!

    cel

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a customer


    way

    Quoted message said:

    back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day. That way, no matter how
    the rest of the year goes, you know you at least accomplished *something*


    on

    Quoted message said:

    a bike!

    People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock & Mt.


    Hamilton)

    Quoted message said:

    about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred people on the


    mountain,

    Quoted message said:

    some years just a couple dozen.

    There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the only
    food is candy from vending machines in the observatory), nobody to haul
    up
    your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no patches. Just you & the
    mountain and a bunch of other people enjoying themselves on a bike. And
    probably a bunch of photos on a web page late that night.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA



    It is cold. At least this year, there is no snow or rain in the forecast.
    I rode behind Mike's group one year and got caught in a freezing rain.

  4. cell phone said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a
    customer way back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day.
    That way, no matter how the rest of the year goes, you know you at
    least accomplished *something* on a bike!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock &
    Mt. Hamilton) about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred
    people on the mountain, some years just a couple dozen.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the
    only food is candy from vending machines in the observatory),
    nobody to haul up your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no
    patches. Just you & the mountain and a bunch of other people
    enjoying themselves on a bike. And probably a bunch of photos on a
    web page late that night.

    Quoted message said:

    Last water, is a fountain at Grant ranch about 10 miles into the
    ride. With the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grant
    Ranch. It must be really cold on the way down!

    I can be colder:

    http://mthamilton.ucolick.org/public/pictures/snowpics/

    I recall riding the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    nonstop with no food or drink on an ideal 01 January day. It can't be
    all that hard.

    Jobst Brandt

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    cell phone said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a
    customer way back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day.
    That way, no matter how the rest of the year goes, you know you at
    least accomplished *something* on a bike!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock & Mt.
    Hamilton) about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred
    people on the mountain, some years just a couple dozen.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and
    the only food is candy from vending machines in the observatory),
    nobody to haul up your cold-weather gear for the ride back down,
    no patches. Just you & the mountain and a bunch of other people
    enjoying themselves on a bike. And probably a bunch of photos on
    a web page late that night.

    Quoted message said:

    Last water, is a fountain at Grant ranch about 10 miles into the
    ride. With the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grant
    Ranch. It must be really cold on the way down!

    I can be colder:

    http://mthamilton.ucolick.org/public/pictures/snowpics/

    I gotta say that this is *not* my mental image of sunny California.

  6. Quoted message said:

    I can be colder:

    http://mthamilton.ucolick.org/public/pictures/snowpics/

    Current weather:
    http://mtham.ucolick.org/techdocs/MH_weather/dias/

    Dan

  7. Last water, is a fountain at Grants ranch about 10 miles into the ride.
    With

    Quoted message said:

    the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grants Ranch. It must be
    really cold on the way down!

    Several years it has been not just cold, but that sort of cold that goes
    right through your gloves, a sort of cold that seems made worse by a fog
    that somehow penetrates through whatever warm stuff you're wearing. On such
    days you're really looking forward to that first climb on the way back.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Last water, is a fountain at Grants ranch about 10 miles into the ride.
    With
    the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grants Ranch. It must be
    really cold on the way down!

    cel

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a customer


    way

    Quoted message said:

    back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day. That way, no matter how
    the rest of the year goes, you know you at least accomplished *something*


    on

    Quoted message said:

    a bike!

    People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock & Mt.


    Hamilton)

    Quoted message said:

    about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred people on the


    mountain,

    Quoted message said:

    some years just a couple dozen.

    There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the only
    food is candy from vending machines in the observatory), nobody to haul
    up
    your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no patches. Just you & the
    mountain and a bunch of other people enjoying themselves on a bike. And
    probably a bunch of photos on a web page late that night.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

  8. Quoted message said:

    I recall riding the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    nonstop with no food or drink on an ideal 01 January day. It can't be
    all that hard.

    Jobst Brandt

    Jobst: If you were running a boot camp, I wonder how many people would
    survive?

    Seriously, you may be conditioned such that your body can take that sort of
    abuse. The typical cyclist cannot, and certainly should not attempt to do
    such a ride without food or water. Nor should they think that even minimal
    food & water is OK, because "It can't be all that hard." The fact that you
    (and a select few others) can do something is not an indication that it is
    safe or sane for others to attempt.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    cell phone said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a
    customer way back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day.
    That way, no matter how the rest of the year goes, you know you at
    least accomplished *something* on a bike!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock &
    Mt. Hamilton) about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred
    people on the mountain, some years just a couple dozen.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the
    only food is candy from vending machines in the observatory),
    nobody to haul up your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no
    patches. Just you & the mountain and a bunch of other people
    enjoying themselves on a bike. And probably a bunch of photos on a
    web page late that night.

    Quoted message said:

    Last water, is a fountain at Grant ranch about 10 miles into the
    ride. With the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grant
    Ranch. It must be really cold on the way down!

    I can be colder:

    http://mthamilton.ucolick.org/public/pictures/snowpics/

    I recall riding the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    nonstop with no food or drink on an ideal 01 January day. It can't be
    all that hard.

    Jobst Brandt

  9. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Several years it has been not just cold, but that sort of cold that goes
    right through your gloves, a sort of cold that seems made worse by a fog
    that somehow penetrates through whatever warm stuff you're wearing. On such
    days you're really looking forward to that first climb on the way back.

    Well, I rode up Mt. Hamilton today (Saturday, 12/30), at around 11
    AM. It was beautiful, cool but not cold, cloudless sky, very little
    wind. The observatory thermometer said 49F, but my bike computer
    read 60-63F most of the ride. It was colder in the valley than on
    the summit. Descending was too warm, so I took my beanie off after
    the first descent. I hope it's the same weather on Jan. 1.
    --
    terry morse - Undiscovered Country Tours - http://www.udctours.com/

  10. I would agree 100% with Mike J. I think less than 5% of active bike riders
    could do the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop without any
    food, or water without ill effects. Most wouldn't make it, others would be
    ill!

    I remember doing this ride on a hot summer day at 113F and seeing the
    buzzards overhead. I thought if I was riding along and ran out of water I
    would just be buzzard bait! That said, in the winter would be the best time
    if you had to ride it without water.

    Jobst's DNA must be related to camels.

    cel

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I recall riding the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    nonstop with no food or drink on an ideal 01 January day. It can't be
    all that hard.

    Jobst Brandt

    Jobst: If you were running a boot camp, I wonder how many people would
    survive?

    Seriously, you may be conditioned such that your body can take that sort


    of

    Quoted message said:

    abuse. The typical cyclist cannot, and certainly should not attempt to do
    such a ride without food or water. Nor should they think that even minimal
    food & water is OK, because "It can't be all that hard." The fact that


    you

    Quoted message said:

    (and a select few others) can do something is not an indication that it is
    safe or sane for others to attempt.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    cell phone said:

    > I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a
    > customer way back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day.
    > That way, no matter how the rest of the year goes, you know you at
    > least accomplished *something* on a bike!

    Quoted message said:

    > People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock &
    > Mt. Hamilton) about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred
    > people on the mountain, some years just a couple dozen.

    Quoted message said:

    > There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the
    > only food is candy from vending machines in the observatory),
    > nobody to haul up your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no
    > patches. Just you & the mountain and a bunch of other people
    > enjoying themselves on a bike. And probably a bunch of photos on a
    > web page late that night.

    Quoted message said:

    Last water, is a fountain at Grant ranch about 10 miles into the
    ride. With the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grant
    Ranch. It must be really cold on the way down!

    I can be colder:

    http://mthamilton.ucolick.org/public/pictures/snowpics/

    I recall riding the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    nonstop with no food or drink on an ideal 01 January day. It can't be
    all that hard.

    Jobst Brandt

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    cel said:

    I remember doing this ride on a hot summer day at 113F and seeing the
    buzzards overhead. I thought if I was riding along and ran out of
    water I would just be buzzard bait!

    Heh. I used to live in southeastern Minnesota, in the bluff country
    along the Mississippi. On many rides I'd be cruising along with turkey
    vultures floating overhead. It always made me wonder of they knew
    something I didn't.

  12. "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I would agree 100% with Mike J. I think less than 5% of active bike riders
    could do the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop without any
    food, or water without ill effects. Most wouldn't make it, others would be
    ill!

    I remember doing this ride on a hot summer day at 113F and seeing the
    buzzards overhead. I thought if I was riding along and ran out of water I
    would just be buzzard bait! That said, in the winter would be the best
    time
    if you had to ride it without water.

    Jobst's DNA must be related to camels.

    Fortunately, it was a beautiful, if slightly cool, day for the ride. I saw
    more people on the hill than I have in many years, possibly the most ever.
    As usual though, there's something about the conditions at the very top that
    make it seem much colder than it actually is, such that people were huddled
    inside the area where they have the bathrooms and vending machines.

    Vending machines which do, by the way, now take dollar bills! Unfortunately,
    it appears they only like *dry* dollar bills, so best to keep them in a
    plastic baggie.

    As I finished slightly before noon, I saw just a few stragglers just
    starting up, one of whom was in a very large gear pedaling very slowly and
    not making much progress. Hopefully he'll make it before daylight runs out!
    Most people started around 9am, with a few hardy souls returning as we were
    heading up (they might have been doing the "watch the sunrise from the top"
    routine, something that's never appealed much to me, being
    not-a-morning-person). Looked like the last large groups of riders probably
    started out around 10am or so.

    Unfortunately, it was cool enough that I was wearing my thicker gloves,
    which made using my camera very inconvenient, so not too many photos this
    year. Darn. The problem was that I couldn't depress the slightly-recessed
    on/off switch. Might have to glue a little something onto the glove.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  13. "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I would agree 100% with Mike J. I think less than 5% of active bike riders
    could do the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop without any
    food, or water without ill effects. Most wouldn't make it, others would
    be
    ill!

    I remember doing this ride on a hot summer day at 113F and seeing the
    buzzards overhead. I thought if I was riding along and ran out of water I
    would just be buzzard bait! That said, in the winter would be the best
    time
    if you had to ride it without water.

    Jobst's DNA must be related to camels.

    Fortunately, it was a beautiful, if slightly cool, day for the ride. I saw
    more people on the hill than I have in many years, possibly the most ever.
    As usual though, there's something about the conditions at the very top
    that make it seem much colder than it actually is, such that people were
    huddled inside the area where they have the bathrooms and vending
    machines.

    Vending machines which do, by the way, now take dollar bills!
    Unfortunately, it appears they only like *dry* dollar bills, so best to
    keep them in a plastic baggie.

    As I finished slightly before noon, I saw just a few stragglers just
    starting up, one of whom was in a very large gear pedaling very slowly and
    not making much progress. Hopefully he'll make it before daylight runs
    out! Most people started around 9am, with a few hardy souls returning as
    we were heading up (they might have been doing the "watch the sunrise from
    the top" routine, something that's never appealed much to me, being
    not-a-morning-person). Looked like the last large groups of riders
    probably started out around 10am or so.

    Unfortunately, it was cool enough that I was wearing my thicker gloves,
    which made using my camera very inconvenient, so not too many photos this
    year. Darn. The problem was that I couldn't depress the slightly-recessed
    on/off switch. Might have to glue a little something onto the glove.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    I started up about 9:30 and was back down about 12:45. I was hoping to see
    you or your group but guess I missed it. There were still riders leaving
    about 12. There were quite a collection of folks climbing the mountain. By
    9:15 most of the parking at Alum Rock was gone. I went down to the school
    which is where I normally start anyway.

    The only downside was the wind kicked up. About 6 miles from the top, it
    started to blow Made the descent a bit colder than I was expecting. By
    Grant's Ranch, it had warmed up. The wind did knock me around a bit, in
    particular coming out of some of the turns. For those going up later, I
    think the ride will be a bit rougher coming down. I think the wind will be
    a bit worse.

  14. Think about it. There was a reason the Clif Bar was inspired by a ride up
    the backside of Hamilton. Read the book Raising the Bar, the story of Clif
    Bar.

    "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I would agree 100% with Mike J. I think less than 5% of active bike riders
    could do the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop without any
    food, or water without ill effects. Most wouldn't make it, others would be
    ill!

    I remember doing this ride on a hot summer day at 113F and seeing the
    buzzards overhead. I thought if I was riding along and ran out of water I
    would just be buzzard bait! That said, in the winter would be the best
    time
    if you had to ride it without water.

    Jobst's DNA must be related to camels.

    cel

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I recall riding the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    nonstop with no food or drink on an ideal 01 January day. It can't be
    all that hard.

    Jobst Brandt

    Jobst: If you were running a boot camp, I wonder how many people would
    survive?

    Seriously, you may be conditioned such that your body can take that sort


    of

    Quoted message said:

    abuse. The typical cyclist cannot, and certainly should not attempt to do
    such a ride without food or water. Nor should they think that even
    minimal
    food & water is OK, because "It can't be all that hard." The fact that


    you

    Quoted message said:

    (and a select few others) can do something is not an indication that it
    is
    safe or sane for others to attempt.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    cell phone writes:

    >> I've been doing this for years, after first being invited by a
    >> customer way back when. Ride up Mt. Hamilton on New Years Day.
    >> That way, no matter how the rest of the year goes, you know you at
    >> least accomplished *something* on a bike!

    >> People generally leave from the base of the climb (Alum Rock &
    >> Mt. Hamilton) about 8:45am. Some years you'll see a couple hundred
    >> people on the mountain, some years just a couple dozen.

    >> There is no support, no food or water anywhere but the top (and the
    >> only food is candy from vending machines in the observatory),
    >> nobody to haul up your cold-weather gear for the ride back down, no
    >> patches. Just you & the mountain and a bunch of other people
    >> enjoying themselves on a bike. And probably a bunch of photos on a
    >> web page late that night.

    > Last water, is a fountain at Grant ranch about 10 miles into the
    > ride. With the cold weather 2 bottle should be plenty from Grant
    > Ranch. It must be really cold on the way down!

    I can be colder:

    http://mthamilton.ucolick.org/public/pictures/snowpics/

    I recall riding the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    nonstop with no food or drink on an ideal 01 January day. It can't be
    all that hard.

    Jobst Brandt

  15. Quoted message said:

    I started up about 9:30 and was back down about 12:45. I was hoping to
    see you or your group but guess I missed it. There were still riders
    leaving about 12. There were quite a collection of folks climbing the
    mountain. By 9:15 most of the parking at Alum Rock was gone. I went down
    to the school which is where I normally start anyway.

    What jersey and bike were you riding? We must have passed not too far from
    the top on my way down.

    As for "my" group... I should have made things a bit more clear. It's not
    really "my" ride, it's everyone's ride. I just provide the catalyst for some
    to get out and do it. This year, it was quite a few people! At one point I
    was riding in a group and someone asked if I was Mike, and I jokingly said
    no. After a bit of confusion (others in the group knew who I was) I had to
    clear things up.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "John Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I would agree 100% with Mike J. I think less than 5% of active bike
    riders
    could do the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop without any
    food, or water without ill effects. Most wouldn't make it, others would
    be
    ill!

    I remember doing this ride on a hot summer day at 113F and seeing the
    buzzards overhead. I thought if I was riding along and ran out of water
    I
    would just be buzzard bait! That said, in the winter would be the best
    time
    if you had to ride it without water.

    Jobst's DNA must be related to camels.

    Fortunately, it was a beautiful, if slightly cool, day for the ride. I
    saw more people on the hill than I have in many years, possibly the most
    ever. As usual though, there's something about the conditions at the very
    top that make it seem much colder than it actually is, such that people
    were huddled inside the area where they have the bathrooms and vending
    machines.

    Vending machines which do, by the way, now take dollar bills!
    Unfortunately, it appears they only like *dry* dollar bills, so best to
    keep them in a plastic baggie.

    As I finished slightly before noon, I saw just a few stragglers just
    starting up, one of whom was in a very large gear pedaling very slowly
    and not making much progress. Hopefully he'll make it before daylight
    runs out! Most people started around 9am, with a few hardy souls
    returning as we were heading up (they might have been doing the "watch
    the sunrise from the top" routine, something that's never appealed much
    to me, being not-a-morning-person). Looked like the last large groups of
    riders probably started out around 10am or so.

    Unfortunately, it was cool enough that I was wearing my thicker gloves,
    which made using my camera very inconvenient, so not too many photos this
    year. Darn. The problem was that I couldn't depress the slightly-recessed
    on/off switch. Might have to glue a little something onto the glove.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    I started up about 9:30 and was back down about 12:45. I was hoping to
    see you or your group but guess I missed it. There were still riders
    leaving about 12. There were quite a collection of folks climbing the
    mountain. By 9:15 most of the parking at Alum Rock was gone. I went down
    to the school which is where I normally start anyway.

    The only downside was the wind kicked up. About 6 miles from the top, it
    started to blow Made the descent a bit colder than I was expecting. By
    Grant's Ranch, it had warmed up. The wind did knock me around a bit, in
    particular coming out of some of the turns. For those going up later, I
    think the ride will be a bit rougher coming down. I think the wind will
    be a bit worse.

  16. John Michaels said:

    Think about it. There was a reason the Clif Bar was inspired by a
    ride up the backside of Hamilton. Read the book Raising the Bar,
    the story of Clif Bar.

    I recommend that as required reading for people in small businesses.
    Gary Erickson went though it as did Tom Ritchey. Wheelsmith got eaten
    by the syndrome and Gallo Wines did not survive as a family owned
    company and is publicly owned today for the same reason.

    Besides, it is an interesting story.

    http://www.clifbar.com/ourstory/document.cfm?location=history
    http://tinyurl.com/yxrqka

    Jobst Brandt

  17. Does anyone know the name of the rider taken away by helicopter on
    Mt. Hamilton? On the descent, we were held up for maybe a half hour
    while the injured rider got flown to hospital.

    It happened on the second descent, after the first little climb. I
    heard he hit his head and was knocked out for a while, but he was
    sitting up after a while. We couldn't see what was going on, as they
    wanted room on the road to land the helicopter.
    --
    terry morse - Undiscovered Country Tours - http://www.udctours.com/

  18. I was riding a black 2004 Trek 5500 that I got from your shop. Had a yellow
    jacket with black sleeves.

    Sorry to hear that someone got hurt. I wondered about the sirens as I was
    getting in my car. Known a few folks who have taken spills on that descent.

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I started up about 9:30 and was back down about 12:45. I was hoping to
    see you or your group but guess I missed it. There were still riders
    leaving about 12. There were quite a collection of folks climbing the
    mountain. By 9:15 most of the parking at Alum Rock was gone. I went
    down to the school which is where I normally start anyway.

    What jersey and bike were you riding? We must have passed not too far from
    the top on my way down.

    As for "my" group... I should have made things a bit more clear. It's not
    really "my" ride, it's everyone's ride. I just provide the catalyst for
    some to get out and do it. This year, it was quite a few people! At one
    point I was riding in a group and someone asked if I was Mike, and I
    jokingly said no. After a bit of confusion (others in the group knew who I
    was) I had to clear things up.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "John Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >I would agree 100% with Mike J. I think less than 5% of active bike
    >riders
    > could do the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop without
    > any
    > food, or water without ill effects. Most wouldn't make it, others would
    > be
    > ill!
    >
    > I remember doing this ride on a hot summer day at 113F and seeing the
    > buzzards overhead. I thought if I was riding along and ran out of water
    > I
    > would just be buzzard bait! That said, in the winter would be the best
    > time
    > if you had to ride it without water.
    >
    > Jobst's DNA must be related to camels.

    Fortunately, it was a beautiful, if slightly cool, day for the ride. I
    saw more people on the hill than I have in many years, possibly the most
    ever. As usual though, there's something about the conditions at the
    very top that make it seem much colder than it actually is, such that
    people were huddled inside the area where they have the bathrooms and
    vending machines.

    Vending machines which do, by the way, now take dollar bills!
    Unfortunately, it appears they only like *dry* dollar bills, so best to
    keep them in a plastic baggie.

    As I finished slightly before noon, I saw just a few stragglers just
    starting up, one of whom was in a very large gear pedaling very slowly
    and not making much progress. Hopefully he'll make it before daylight
    runs out! Most people started around 9am, with a few hardy souls
    returning as we were heading up (they might have been doing the "watch
    the sunrise from the top" routine, something that's never appealed much
    to me, being not-a-morning-person). Looked like the last large groups of
    riders probably started out around 10am or so.

    Unfortunately, it was cool enough that I was wearing my thicker gloves,
    which made using my camera very inconvenient, so not too many photos
    this year. Darn. The problem was that I couldn't depress the
    slightly-recessed on/off switch. Might have to glue a little something
    onto the glove.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    I started up about 9:30 and was back down about 12:45. I was hoping to
    see you or your group but guess I missed it. There were still riders
    leaving about 12. There were quite a collection of folks climbing the
    mountain. By 9:15 most of the parking at Alum Rock was gone. I went
    down to the school which is where I normally start anyway.

    The only downside was the wind kicked up. About 6 miles from the top, it
    started to blow Made the descent a bit colder than I was expecting. By
    Grant's Ranch, it had warmed up. The wind did knock me around a bit, in
    particular coming out of some of the turns. For those going up later, I
    think the ride will be a bit rougher coming down. I think the wind will
    be a bit worse.

  19. Quoted message said:

    Does anyone know the name of the rider taken away by helicopter on
    Mt. Hamilton? On the descent, we were held up for maybe a half hour
    while the injured rider got flown to hospital.

    It happened on the second descent, after the first little climb. I
    heard he hit his head and was knocked out for a while, but he was
    sitting up after a while. We couldn't see what was going on, as they
    wanted room on the road to land the helicopter.

    Ouch! What time was that? I arrived at the bottom right about noon. Glad to
    hear he was sitting up. The gravel didn't seem any worse than usual, maybe
    even a bit better this year. Haven't gotten any emails yet from others I
    know who were out there that day.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Terry Morse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone know the name of the rider taken away by helicopter on
    Mt. Hamilton? On the descent, we were held up for maybe a half hour
    while the injured rider got flown to hospital.

    It happened on the second descent, after the first little climb. I
    heard he hit his head and was knocked out for a while, but he was
    sitting up after a while. We couldn't see what was going on, as they
    wanted room on the road to land the helicopter.
    --
    terry morse - Undiscovered Country Tours - http://www.udctours.com/

  20. "cel" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I would agree 100% with Mike J. I think less than 5% of active bike
    riders could do the Milpitas-Hamilton-Livermore-Sunol-Milpitas loop
    without any food, or water without ill effects. Most wouldn't make it,
    others would be ill!

    Jobst, what was/is the point of doing a ride like this without food and
    water?

    --
    Mike DeMicco <[email hidden]>

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