Roadwork diversions for cyclists

Frank

In my experience, the best results come from acting in a group, such as
a BUG. If you haven't got one in the area, and if BNSW won't do it for
you, can you form a group for this issue? Speak firmly and
authoritatively - know what you are talking about. Ride the proposed
route and document the risks. Develop an alternative and say why this
is better. Work constructively towards getting a better answer that
makes RTA look good too.

Donga

frankv said:

At Hazelbrook in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney there are roadworks
taking place. This is at the bottom of a hill with a 40km roadwork
speed limit. The RTA (or whoever is doing the work - must check on
this) have directed cyclists to take a circuitous route including a
short but nasty climb. This might be in place for a number of months.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=599840

if you want to have a look.

I have a couple of questions for those more familiar with lobbying etc.

Can the RTA divert cyclists from a public road? I know they can on
private roads such as tollways, but my understanding was that public
roads were open to everyone.

Who would be the best person to write, email, phone to get something
done?

Not as significant an issue as the M2 but as it is on my front door I
thought I might do something.

Frank

What are they doing for pedestrians as they have to have access to walk
alongside the road.

If pedestrians have access I would assume bikes could use that route also.

Looking at your map you can't be expected to do that extra distance.

r

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Quoted message said:

At Hazelbrook in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney there are roadworks
taking place. This is at the bottom of a hill with a 40km roadwork
speed limit. The RTA (or whoever is doing the work - must check on
this) have directed cyclists to take a circuitous route including a
short but nasty climb. This might be in place for a number of months.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=599840

if you want to have a look.

I have a couple of questions for those more familiar with lobbying etc.

Can the RTA divert cyclists from a public road? I know they can on
private roads such as tollways, but my understanding was that public
roads were open to everyone.

Who would be the best person to write, email, phone to get something
done?

Not as significant an issue as the M2 but as it is on my front door I
thought I might do something.

Are cars allowed to go through the roadworks but not bikes? I really think
it is just an RTA recommendation ie. no legal standing. After all bikes are
road vehicles just like cars and trucks. Any road detour should apply to all
traffic.

If it is a bikes-only detour talk to BNSW and local BUGs for support and
lobbying. This sort of discrimination should not be allowed. Let riders make
the decision about their route choice. Incidentally, I don't know the roads
and hills, but to avoid the extra distance it would be just as easy (from
either direction) to ride along Railway Parade and rejoin the GW Hwy later
on. Maybe that road is a hilly cow. And I know it doesn't help if you're
heading for an intermediate street.

Good luck with the lobbying.
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Cheers
Peter

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frankv said:

At Hazelbrook in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney there are roadworks
taking place. This is at the bottom of a hill with a 40km roadwork
speed limit. The RTA (or whoever is doing the work - must check on
this) have directed cyclists to take a circuitous route including a
short but nasty climb. This might be in place for a number of months.

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if you want to have a look.

I have a couple of questions for those more familiar with lobbying etc.

Can the RTA divert cyclists from a public road? I know they can on
private roads such as tollways, but my understanding was that public
roads were open to everyone.

Who would be the best person to write, email, phone to get something
done?

Not as significant an issue as the M2 but as it is on my front door I
thought I might do something.

Frank

Not sure if they can but, pay attention to the sort of sign they have up.

The ONLY legally enforceable sign is a bike logo with a red line through it. Any other sign (including a bike logo with an arrow and/or ALL BICYCLES) are not enforceable and advisory only.

I would take the main road unless the cops ORDER you off it. Make a statement and take the lane.

Scotty

frankv said:

At Hazelbrook in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney there are roadworks
taking place. This is at the bottom of a hill with a 40km roadwork
speed limit. The RTA (or whoever is doing the work - must check on
this) have directed cyclists to take a circuitous route including a
short but nasty climb. This might be in place for a number of months.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=599840

if you want to have a look.

G'day Frank

Given it's only 200m or so of highway, and the section they want to
divert you around is almost flat, and it's a 40 kmh limit, I'll just
ride on through - or ride on the footpath (ahem). Hang on, I mean the
grassed areas beside the footpath. ;^) You'd be doing well over 40 on
the way to Sydney after coming down that hill (I'm usually doing 50-60
through there on mtbs) so keeping up with traffic wouldn't be an issue.
Going the other way, I'd probably be doing less than 40, but not a
whole lot less.

You could also ride through the shop carpark to reduce the severity of
Rosedale's climb.

Nah, bugger 'em, just stick to the road.

Tony F

thefathippy said:

frankv said:

At Hazelbrook in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney there are roadworks
taking place. This is at the bottom of a hill with a 40km roadwork
speed limit. The RTA (or whoever is doing the work - must check on
this) have directed cyclists to take a circuitous route including a
short but nasty climb. This might be in place for a number of months.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=599840

if you want to have a look.

G'day Frank

Given it's only 200m or so of highway, and the section they want to
divert you around is almost flat, and it's a 40 kmh limit, I'll just
ride on through - or ride on the footpath (ahem). Hang on, I mean the
grassed areas beside the footpath. ;^) You'd be doing well over 40 on
the way to Sydney after coming down that hill (I'm usually doing 50-60
through there on mtbs) so keeping up with traffic wouldn't be an issue.
Going the other way, I'd probably be doing less than 40, but not a
whole lot less.

You could also ride through the shop carpark to reduce the severity of
Rosedale's climb.

Nah, bugger 'em, just stick to the road.

Tony F

Bloody! I've had a look now - and it's worse going up - over the
railway line, down Terrace Falls Rd, Baths Rd and then up Honour
Avenue. Talk about an extension!

I've also realised that speeds I boasted about wouldn't be achieved (by
me) from a standing start.

Tony F