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MI5 Persecution: Surveillance methods 5/8/95 (5882)

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  1. From: Pamela Willoughby <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: uk.misc
    Date: Sat, 05 Aug 1995 18:08:32 GMT
    Organization: Myorganisation
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    Quoted message said:

    Hmmm, strange eh.
    I mentioned all this goings on to my boyfriend, who works for the
    British intelligence service, and he assures me this sort of thing
    never goes on.. not ever...honest.
    Though he said the name was familiar...

    it does go on, although it's an open question who does it.

    Some time ago there were press reports of an Army intelligence person
    called Jones who claimed Diana and Hewitt had been photographed in a
    compromising position... he said he'd been doing this as part of an
    Army unit which had previously operated in Northern Ireland.

    Then Hewitt said he'd been told the same thing by some Army people,
    and that they were threatening to release the tapes unless they
    curtailed their liaison... as per usual everyone denied everything,
    painted Jones as the "Jones twins" - not very original in how
    they deal with their perceived enemies, are they?

    You have to wonder how they manage to achieve this sort of
    surveillance though. Audio you can understand, it's possible to put
    a microphone through the wall, and apparently there exist devices
    which will retrieve sound from a laser beam bounced off a window -
    sounds sci-fi, but there's a well known surveillance electronics
    company in London which sells these things.

    But how would you get video out of a room, unless you had actual
    physical access in order to plant a device for pickup? We're not
    talking about looking in from afar, but an actual device within
    the room. You could either drill through the wall and shove a
    pickup through; or you could supply a trojan device with a hidden
    pickup inside; but most likely, you would have to physically break
    into your target room to plant a camera. That's not an infeasible
    option; all it means is having your target(s) watched to make sure
    they're not in the vicinity, then you negotiate any locks on the
    property and find a suitable receptacle for your device.

    The next question is how they defeat the usual methods of counter-
    surveillance. We had private detectives carry out a "sweep" of
    every room and the telephone line. They found nothing. That
    indicates at least four possibilities that I can think of;
    (this is all guesswork BTW, and probably fanciful guesswork
    at that!)

    1) no bugs (pull the other one)

    2) radio-transmitting devices which can be controlled from an
    external source, ie you can instruct them to switch off
    when you detect a counter-surveillance sweep taking place

    3) hard-wired devices; probe microphones or whatever they're
    called, things you poke through the wall

    4) passive surveillance devices; so you bounce laser or
    radio waves off a suitable reflecting surface (again,
    sounds far-fetched but such things may apparently exist).

    5) there is a fifth possibility, that the PI's didn't detect
    an actual transmitting device; there are technologies
    specifically designed to avoid detection, eg frequency hopping
    and suchlike. But how much sophistication could you build in
    to a device which would have to be small enough to be
    physically concealable?

    I guess the real question is to find out who is ultimately
    behind these "goings on". And if the "great and good" (or
    the better known, at any rate) can't protect themselves,
    what hope is there for the rest of us?

    5882

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