Jason Waddell said:Bill C said:On Jan 29, 9:25 pm, "Jason Waddell" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:On Jan 29, 5:42 pm, "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:> On Jan 29, 5:33 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
> wrote:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:> > ilan wrote:
> > > I watched the first stage of the Tour of Qatar and the Iraniansdid
> > > pretty well, averaging about 50kph in the 6km team time trial. That
> > > was about as fast as the Agritubel squad, which is a pro team.
> > > However, the Iranians were not quite aware of the rules, so they only
> > > came in with 3 riders, and the next two dropped riders were coasting
> > > in to the finish, so they lost about 20 seconds (the 50kph time
> > > applies to the first 3). The Doha team also had a respectable time,
> > > averaging 49.5 kph. The Iranian and Qatari teams were actually fairly
> > > close to the Irish team, which, I assume consists of serious riders.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:> > > -ilanThey also did quite well in the Asian Games last year, also in Qatar,
> > finishing second to Kazakhstan. At that event, I believe the #3
> > finisher would have counted:http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=track/2006/dec06/asiangames06/...
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:> > Dan How's their women's team doing? Oh, yeah women would be stoned to
> death for that.
> Bill C
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Really Bill? All Iranian women? Or just the ones you hear about on
FOX news? Please take your stereotypes over to ignorant.alt.goodbye.-Hide quoted text -
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Quoted message said:http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/01/iran.football/index.html
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However, a day after the president's announcement, conservative Shiite
mullahs criticized him for not consulting them before taking his
decision and insisted the presence of women in stadiums was against
Islamic law.
Quoted message said:One religious leader, Fazel Lankarani, went further and issued a fatwa
against the presence of women in stadiums.
Quoted message said:Aliabadi, who announced that women would be permitted to attend live
games from the start of next season, seemed to backtrack when he told
reporters: "The ban on single women still exists and we won't allow
single women to attend any games. Only women who come with their
families will be allowed in."
Quoted message said:You drive a truck, I know lots of female truck drivers from the 53rd
Trans. Batt., wanna talk about drivers licenses for women in Saudi?
Here's an attitude snapshot for you:http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=90284&d=22&m=12&y=2006
Quoted message said:Holy [censored] they might allow PE for females some day!
Bill C
You are comparing our ultra modern secularist way of living to people
that are living with a religious ideology that rules their lives if
they are devout religious followers. Not every person in Iran, Syria,
Iraq, Lebanon, SA or other Isalmic countries is forced to be an ultra
religious follower. There are many more secularist Muslims than the
news portrays, but they are not news worthy material, "if it bleeds it
leads" is the 21st century news motto.
Wanna talk the 10th century? None of this is new. The West for the
most part has outgrown it. You could dig up lot's of my nasty comments
on the West's past behavior also.
Quoted message said:We only gave women the right to vote some 87 years ago here in the
US. We as Americans expect every nation and country in the world to
adhere to or at least mirror our way of life and this elitist way of
thinking is why we are not the most favorable nation on the block.
Have we progressed rapidly in our thinking and applying of individual
freedoms, yes, and there are people that think that our undying pusuit
of individuality will ultimately be our undoing. We have also in our
short lifespan directly or indirectly influenced many a country to
bend to our will and way of thinking and I for one am not entirely
sure that we have gone about this in the correct fashion.
Yep castrating females, not allowing them to have Humen Rights,
etc... is OK
Did the
Quoted message said:British and Mr. Blair have a dog in the fight when we attacked Iraq?
(other than the fact that they screwed up the whole region along with
France) Not really, and ally yes, but obviously we didn't really need
the few thousand British troops that were provided. Bush and co. used
the immense influence of our country to pull Britian into the war.
The British public was even more against the war than the US public
and Blair still sent troops.
Bush lied his ass off and is a complete traitor to everything this
Country stands for. I've beaten that to death.
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I do not endorse any behavior what-so-ever that is forced upon or made
to be mandatory for any person. But, I will not tell someone that has
a different way of life other than mine that what they are doing is
wrong. I am not in their shoes, I do not live in their world, I am
not them, I don't walk down the same streets that they do everyday. To
tell someone that your way is right and better from your own personal
or religious beliefs is ego-centric. It is not the case that all women
are completely subservient in every part of Iran. Some yes, but there
are many women that walk down streets without male escorts, many
without a hijab and such in downtown Tehran. Are there some women
that still abide by the old practices, yes, is it wrong? I am not one
to judge how another lives his/her life. I don't claim to be so
enlightened that I know what is best for someone living in a country
thousands of miles away living by an entirely different set of social
and religious norms.
Dude have you READ the reports from the human rigfhts folks??? Let
alone the women's rights people.
Jesus Christ!
My wife's culture got naked, painted themselves blue, slaughtered
whoever they could get, regularly practiced human sacrifice. My
culture slaughtered people, cleaned their skulls and used them for
drinking mugs.
That's good? They all practiced slavery, I shouldn't object?
Only a gutless [censored] excuses brutality, racism, sexism, and other
practices, for any reason, and we aren't talking about differences in
pay scale here.
The Nazi culture was acceptable to you, because they were the product
of a century of European culture and thought? The Crusades regularly
slaughtered a bunch of Jews on the way to the Holy Land for a tune-up,
I'm supposed to accept that?
You bet your ass that I am judgemental! I hate racism, slavery, the
violent brutal abuse of people, gang rape as justice, total control of
women as second class citizens.
We could go on and on, but it's useless since you don't think
ANYTHING is wrong as long as it's part of the culture.
You need to thank everyone you meet that the US doesn't think that
way and we impose some basic restraints on behavior, in spite of what
the immigrants original cultural standards were.
Before you go off on my "Immigrants" comment, everyone in N. America
is from an immigrant community.
[censored], I used to be Cathlolic. Does that mean, in your world, I can go
bomb the local Protestant church because they are still fighting each
other, and it's centuries of culture?
Bill "Amazed" C
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oh, and as we type the US Navy just sent another aircraft carrier
group to the Persian Gulf. Why would we send an aircraft carrier
group to counter gorilla war tactics in Iraq, oh yeah, we aren't.
There have been numerous mentions of the medling of Iran in Iraq for
the past few months with more and more senior officials commenting on
Iran's role in Iraq. The US and Iran are both headed for disaster
because our president who knows nothing of diplomacy won't pick up the
freaking phone and make a call to Tehran. We are doomed for another 2
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