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  1. Can seat in trials compare to SIF? I know there are some people who do
    great trials seat in, like Yoggi and Joe Hodges, but when I watch them
    I can't help but think about how they would look so much better riding
    SIF.

    There are times when seat in gives me more control for certain precise
    gaps and stuff, but I don't find myself using it very often.

    Sure when I was first learning trials, it was entirely seat in, but I
    forced myself to learn Seat in front and now it's just so much
    better,it even seems like SIF trials is just more fun to me. I'm not
    sure why, its like going seat in is taking the easy way out or
    something. It can be more comfortable doing not-so-challenging lines
    seat in, but it feels more 'real' to me SIF.

    Not to mention it at least should be easier to jump higher SIF, becuase
    you can tuck and get the unicycle up over your butt, thus not having to
    jump as high with your body and being able to jump higher. Wereas with
    seat in you have to pull you whole body straight up onto the obstacle,
    even with a very low seat.

    How is it different for people who ride exclusivly seat in?

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  2. I only just learned how to ride SIF, and my side hop has gone from 24"
    to 27", though I can rolling hop SI up 27". I am more precise with seat
    in, and can gap further (6'😉 SI that SIF (5.5'😉. I believe it is
    personal preference, but SIF is very good for doing big side hops. SI
    is good for gaps (sideways) and control, like riding rails.

    That's my input. Probably all wrong😄

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  3. Thank you for not making this a poll.

    I'm SIF.

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  4. forrestunifreak said:

    Can seat in trials compare to SIF? I know there are some people who do
    great trials seat in, like Yoggi and Joe Hodges, but when I watch them
    I can't help but think about how they would look so much better riding
    SIF.

    There are times when seat in gives me more control for certain precise
    gaps and stuff, but I don't find myself using it very often.

    Sure when I was first learning trials, it was entirely seat in, but I
    forced myself to learn Seat in front and now it's just so much
    better,it even seems like SIF trials is just more fun to me. I'm not
    sure why, its like going seat in is taking the easy way out or
    something. It can be more comfortable doing not-so-challenging lines
    seat in, but it feels more 'real' to me SIF.

    Not to mention it at least should be easier to jump higher SIF, becuase
    you can tuck and get the unicycle up over your butt, thus not having to
    jump as high with your body and being able to jump higher. Wereas with
    seat in you have to pull you whole body straight up onto the obstacle,
    even with a very low seat.

    How is it different for people who ride exclusivly seat in?

    i like riding seat in, in fact, today I got a 31-32" ledge, and maybe
    higher over *something* I just feel much more comfortable seat in. SIF
    feels funny, i am learning SIF slowly, i still like to do seat in most
    of the time.

    if it is a fairly easy line, then I do it seat in to boost my
    confidence, then i try SIF.

    i like rolling hops, i find that I can tuck pretty well doing them.
    more so than i feel comfortable with when I am doing SIF, really i
    think i just need to get more comfortable with SIF, but it is a pain.

    start message here
    I like rolling hops.

    thats all i have to say about that.

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  5. obviously you don't know anything about style nor flow.. Out of all the
    trials rider ive ever seen the one with the most flow and style HAS to
    be Zack Baldwin even thought he isn't the best. Sif usually allows you
    do go high but there are some exceptions, but still how does sif not
    have style or flow ? Wow

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  6. I don't ride much trials but when I do I'm SIF all the way. I can get
    much farther and higher that way.

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  7. do whatever you want. whys everything so opionionated.your a [censored] for
    worrying about looking like a noob.

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  8. Forward drop gaps def do seat in. Side gaps do seat out. With seat out
    you are given the abbility to angle the uni in mid air, and aiming it
    at thin areas better than seat in, you can also move the uni for
    ballance without moving your body.

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  9. SIF on drops only. It feels more natural to hop SI. Will learn to ride
    more SIF this summer.

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  10. howdigetsogood said:

    do whatever you want. whys everything so opionionated.your a [censored] for
    worrying about looking like a noob.

    apart from the reference to homosexuality, you are right.

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  11. howdigetsogood said:

    do whatever you want. whys everything so opionionated.your a [censored] for
    worrying about looking like a noob.

    Woah. For one, Forrest is a top-notch rider. He knows what he is up to,
    and how to ride.

    Secondly, he isnt asking how he should ride. He is asking how riding
    seat-in is different then the people who ride SIF. Getting the pros and
    cons from each side.

    Anyways, I ride all Seat in, or seat under, as I am seeing it as more
    now. I think SIF will always have the upper hand, because how much you
    can tuck, giving you extra height and distance for gaps and jumps.
    Also, everything I have seen SIF, I have seen done Seat-in. SO it can
    be done both ways.

    It really is a preference thing though, cause I have far more control
    seat-in then I do SIF, for anything. I even have room to move the uni
    around under me to keep balance, and can still twist the uni and
    everything, in mid-air to correct how I am gonna land on an object.

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  12. skrobo said:

    i like rolling hops, i find that I can tuck pretty well doing them.
    more so than i feel comfortable with when I am doing SIF, really i
    think i just need to get more comfortable with SIF, but it is a pain.

    start message here
    I like rolling hops.

    thats all i have to say about that.

    Don't get me wrong. By seat in trials I mean... hopping around static.
    Rolling hops are another story. I can rolling hop higher and farther
    then I can SIF static.

    I'm talking about static trials here.

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  13. Andrew Carter is another primarly seat in trials rider who's freakin
    AMAZING!
    So I think it really depends on what you think is more comfortable, and
    of course what you find easier.

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  14. I pretty much use to go seat in all the time untill I learnt how to hop
    high SIF. I can probably hop highest rolling hop mainly because I'm a
    lot more comfortable with it. For gaps and hopping onto things I use
    SIF 90% of the time.

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  15. forrestunifreak said:

    Don't get me wrong. By seat in trials I mean... hopping around static.
    Rolling hops are another story. I can rolling hop higher and farther
    then I can SIF static.

    I'm talking about static trials here.

    ohh
    ok
    SIF is better
    SI looks tacky... even joe hodges doesn't make it look very good(he is
    an amazing rider, but SIF just looks better.

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