Wheel-truing jigs?

Chris Eilbeck said:

I seem to have to true my wheels now and again, and it's a bit of a
pain to do on the bikes. I was thinking of buying a jig so I can just
sit and do it comfortably rather than scrabbling around with the bike
on a workstand.

Which would you recommend? The Minoura Workman Pro from Wiggle looks
reasonable to me.

That's one I have. It's OK for the money. Don't rely on the jig's
centering gauge though. Use a separate "dishing stick" to check. One is
supplied with the Kit, iirc.

The instructions translated from Japanese are hilarious (and dodgy). Throw
away the spoke key as well. Buddy Spokey from Wiggle is much better.

~PB

Chris Eilbeck said:

I seem to have to true my wheels now and again, and it's a bit of a
pain to do on the bikes. I was thinking of buying a jig so I can just
sit and do it comfortably rather than scrabbling around with the bike
on a workstand.

Which would you recommend? The Minoura Workman Pro from Wiggle looks
reasonable to me.

These

http://www.centrimaster.de/

can be picked up for 250-300 euro on ebay. He seems to make them in
batches, so for a few months you won't see one, then every week. Good kit.

Pete Biggs said:

Chris Eilbeck said:

I seem to have to true my wheels now and again, and it's a bit of a
pain to do on the bikes. I was thinking of buying a jig so I can just
sit and do it comfortably rather than scrabbling around with the bike
on a workstand.

Which would you recommend? The Minoura Workman Pro from Wiggle looks
reasonable to me.

That's one I have. It's OK for the money. Don't rely on the jig's
centering gauge though. Use a separate "dishing stick" to check.
One is supplied with the Kit, iirc.

Bonza! Thanks.

Quoted message said:

The instructions translated from Japanese are hilarious (and dodgy).
Throw away the spoke key as well. Buddy Spokey from Wiggle is much
better.

I've got a Park Tools 3-in-1 metal one that seems pretty good.

Chris
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Chris Eilbeck

Chris Eilbeck said:

Quoted message said:

Which would you recommend? The Minoura Workman Pro from Wiggle looks
reasonable to me.

and Pete Biggs responded:

Quoted message said:

That's one I have. It's OK for the money. Don't rely on the jig's
centering gauge though. Use a separate "dishing stick" to check. One is
supplied with the Kit, iirc.

The instructions translated from Japanese are hilarious (and dodgy). Throw
away the spoke key as well. Buddy Spokey from Wiggle is much better.

Wot 'e said. From a safety POV I think it's one of the best buys I've
ever made. Because I can get my wheels truer than I could without a
jig, I can set up my brakes with much tighter clearance and get better
braking performance as a result.

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in message <[email hidden]>, Chris Eilbeck

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I seem to have to true my wheels now and again, and it's a bit of a
pain to do on the bikes. I was thinking of buying a jig so I can just
sit and do it comfortably rather than scrabbling around with the bike
on a workstand.

Which would you recommend? The Minoura Workman Pro from Wiggle looks
reasonable to me.

I got a Minoura jig - I think from Wiggle - for 25 quid, in a sale about
two years ago. It's nothing like as good as a professional wheel-builders
stand, but I'm not a professional wheel builder. It's a heck of a lot
better than doing it in the bike frame. I haven't yet built a wheel in it,
but I've tried about half a dozen, and it's definitely been a good
investment.

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Chris Eilbeck said:

Pete Biggs said:

Chris Eilbeck said:

I seem to have to true my wheels now and again, and it's a bit of a
pain to do on the bikes. I was thinking of buying a jig so I can just
sit and do it comfortably rather than scrabbling around with the bike
on a workstand.

Which would you recommend? The Minoura Workman Pro from Wiggle looks
reasonable to me.

That's one I have. It's OK for the money. Don't rely on the jig's
centering gauge though. Use a separate "dishing stick" to check.
One is supplied with the Kit, iirc.

Bonza! Thanks.

Quoted message said:

The instructions translated from Japanese are hilarious (and dodgy).
Throw away the spoke key as well. Buddy Spokey from Wiggle is much
better.

I've got a Park Tools 3-in-1 metal one that seems pretty good.

The problem with that (and similar ones) is that I often pick it up and
start to use the wrong hole. e.g. put the nipple in hole one when it is
hole size zero. This can lead to rounded nipples. If all your nipples
are the same size it is far better to go for a single size key.

Martin.

Martin Dann said:

The problem with that (and similar ones) is that I often pick it up and
start to use the wrong hole. e.g. put the nipple in hole one when it is
hole size zero. This can lead to rounded nipples. If all your nipples
are the same size it is far better to go for a single size key.

Put sticky-tape of some variety over the incorrectly sized holes?

Anthony

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The instructions translated from Japanese are hilarious (and dodgy).
Throw away the spoke key as well. Buddy Spokey from Wiggle is much
better.

I used to have a small Suzuki motorbike back in 1970 whose user manual
included the immortal words: "tighten the engine set bolts periodically
in order that the motor should not be precipitated on the highway".

Can't imagine why that has stuck in my mind for nearly 40 years :-)

Peter

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in message <[email hidden]>, Peter Amey

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The instructions translated from Japanese are hilarious (and dodgy).
Throw away the spoke key as well. Buddy Spokey from Wiggle is much
better.

I used to have a small Suzuki motorbike back in 1970 whose user manual
included the immortal words: "tighten the engine set bolts periodically
in order that the motor should not be precipitated on the highway".

Bringing it back on topic, Cinneli handlebars:

So, before proceeding with definitive screwing, choose the
position most congenital.

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Peter Amey said:

I used to have a small Suzuki motorbike back in 1970 whose user
manual included the immortal words: "tighten the engine set
bolts periodically in order that the motor should not be
precipitated on the highway".

Reminds me of the opening phrase of a manual quoted in Zen and the Art
of Motorcycle Maintenance: "Assembly of Japanese bicycle require great
peace of mind."

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Dave...

Chris Eilbeck said:

I seem to have to true my wheels now and again, and it's a bit of a
pain to do on the bikes. I was thinking of buying a jig so I can just
sit and do it comfortably rather than scrabbling around with the bike
on a workstand.

Which would you recommend? The Minoura Workman Pro from Wiggle looks
reasonable to me.

Chris

I've got one of those, I wouldn't want to build wheels in it all day but its
fine for one or two.

Get a dishing tool, a cheap jig isn't stiff enough to do the 'turn wheel
round and check' thing.

Get a good spoke key that you like, I like spokeys.

Do it somewhere with good lighting.

Get some old thick leather gloves to do the spoke squezy thing.

Moisturise you hands before starting and your skin will suck up less Al
dusty gunge..

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