VO2 max of various pro's..INTERESTING

Interesting. Where did you get that information?

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Originally posted by patch70
Interesting. Where did you get that information?

The info on Hinault and the lactate threshold info on "The Cannibal" I got from old cycling mags from years ago. The rest of the stuff I found on the web today.

TiMan

More interesting info about Armstrong.

Max power 600 watts at VO2 max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Max heart rate 201!!!

Lactate threshold 178 bpm

Time Trial heart rate 188-192

Pedal RPM's during TT 95-100

Climbing cadence 80-85..."sometimes faster when attacking"

Average HR during long endurance rides (4-6 hours) 124-128

Average watts during endurance rides 245-280

Training miles/hours, endurance rides 5-6 hours/100-130 miles.

Cool stuff eh!

TiMan

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Originally posted by TiMan
Lance Armstrong 83.8 ml/kg-min

Indurain "sub human machine" 88

Eddy Mercky "The Cannibal" 77

Benard Hinault "The Badger" 87

GREG LEMOND "The truely nice guy" 92.5!!!! Holy ****!

NOTE! "The Cannibal" had an EXTREMELY high Lactate threshold. I can remember reading years ago that it was over 90% of his maximum heart rate and not that far from his VO2 max. Armstrong has a LT of 178 beats per minute or 88.5% of max heart rate.

It would be nice to know at what percentage of VO2 max their lactate threshold was/is as this is a better indicator of performance abilities.

Will Walker is a kid at Brunswick CC who has a VO2 of about 92. He is only 18yrs old and got 5th in the world junior TT this year. He kicked the pro's arses in the Bay Series in January (in one stage anyway). He is a name to watch for the future!

It's not everything. I've read more than once that Sean Yates' physical characteristics were in every respect equal to Merckx, that Graham Webb had greater lung capacity than Indurain.

It's mental, too. The killer instinct.

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Originally posted by luke1972
Will Walker is a kid at Brunswick CC who has a VO2 of about 92. He is only 18yrs old and got 5th in the world junior TT this year. He kicked the pro's arses in the Bay Series in January (in one stage anyway). He is a name to watch for the future!

As you say a kid, chances are high that his phisiology is not that from an adult yet. lower body weight gives higher relative VO2. So don't declare hin the new big man get lets see if he attains those values in 3 years.

Inded its not everything. There was a certain Mr. Sean Kelly in the 1980's who apparently did the worst test out of all of the PDM team before the 83 season i think. They were even considering getting rid of him and then he went and won loads of classics.
The test doesnt show how hard a guy can suffer when he's in the zone. then again, its interesting alright..

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/?id=2003/ais_juniors_get_ready

Will Walker's Vo2 is 94. I was merely stating his stats and said he is a rider to watch for the future. Of course you have to suffer and prove yourself but I think it is interesting now that a rider can present a "resume" before being signed.

Today with thousands of riders to choose from how much emphasis will be placed on this pysoilogical testing and how much on guts?

Would you sign a young rider with a low vo2?

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Originally posted by luke1972
cyclingnews.comfeaturesOpen ↗

Will Walker's Vo2 is 94. I was merely stating his stats and said he is a rider to watch for the future. Of course you have to suffer and prove yourself but I think it is interesting now that a rider can present a "resume" before being signed.

Today with thousands of riders to choose from how much emphasis will be placed on this pysoilogical testing and how much on guts?

Would you sign a young rider with a low vo2?

I depends what you do with your VO2. Its is not the great thing. Should you care about the V02 or LT of a sprinter?, not to much as long as he can hang onto the pack his max speed(so max power for 10-15sec and body size) are what you should care for. There is also tactics, there is a lot you can compensate for power with beiing smart. By the way test give indications it is still no exact science to predict results, you need way more then a stromg engine.

I am a sprinter, i regularly kick peoples ass who can put out more power than me on the long term, but with riding economically and a strong sprint I beat em quite often.

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Originally posted by maarten
I depends what you do with your VO2. Its is not the great thing. Should you care about the V02 or LT of a sprinter?, not to much as long as he can hang onto the pack his max speed(so max power for 10-15sec and body size) are what you should care for. There is also tactics, there is a lot you can compensate for power with beiing smart. By the way test give indications it is still no exact science to predict results, you need way more then a stromg engine.

I am a sprinter, i regularly kick peoples ass who can put out more power than me on the long term, but with riding economically and a strong sprint I beat em quite often.

Even so, in endurance events against the clock we can predict peformances quite accurately or prdict who will win over another using some physiological measures. This is particularly true of running.

Physiological measures have more uses than just predicting performances (this is only a small part of the picture) and shouldn't be used for selection as actual performances not results are important.

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Originally posted by luke1972
cyclingnews.comfeaturesOpen ↗

Will Walker's Vo2 is 94. I was merely stating his stats and said he is a rider to watch for the future. Of course you have to suffer and prove yourself but I think it is interesting now that a rider can present a "resume" before being signed.

Today with thousands of riders to choose from how much emphasis will be placed on this pysoilogical testing and how much on guts?

Would you sign a young rider with a low vo2?

Yes, if they had performances that merited selection.

As an aside I would question the 94 ml.kg.min, given that it is so high for a youngster.

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Originally posted by luke1972
Will Walker's Vo2 is 94. I was merely stating his stats ...

I don't think anyone was trying to rubbish your quote, far from it. A top man like has to have good numbers *and* the attitude is, I think, what's being said.