I'd love to get a deal at a flea market, but I think for now I'll have to pay retail.
BC
I agree with David. I ride 6spd friction and 7spd shimano index bikes with sram, not shimano, chains and they all shift fine. I don't think pins and ramps make a difference that I care about especially on the front and -especially- in the middle. I can't imagine needing or wanting easier front shifting than on my friction shifting bike already has.
I put chainring into ebay and found new FSA chainrings for $14. I then put 38t 110 BCD into froogle and found a sugino ring for $16 at airbomb. Of course there was $8 shipping on that one so that will bring it up to $24 delivered.
Since I have had such good feedback from the RBT, I have been finding lots of rings at good prices. Am leaning toward a Salsa ring from AE Bikes; I have a Salsa Shaft seatpost, and I love it, so it makes me want to buy from that company. But I am sure a Sugino would be fine. Can't find a Shimano 110/38T, and the TA is $50.
I don not have indexed front shifting. Are pins & ramps therefore irrelevant?
Not completely irrelevant. They help "grab" and guide the chain as opposed to smashing the chain into the chainring, especially if your cables and housing are a bit gunked up. They make most bikes easier to shift up. Not really any help in downshifting.
Phil, is a ring with ramps & pins easier to shift up TO, or easier to shift up OUT OF?
This may be a moot point. I have not seen any 110/38T rings that have ramps and pins, have you?
Also, have enjoyed your posts, always chuckled at Squid-in-Training.
Since I have had such good feedback from the RBT, I have been finding lots of rings at good prices. Am leaning toward a Salsa ring from AE Bikes; I have a Salsa Shaft seatpost, and I love it, so it makes me want to buy from that company. But I am sure a Sugino would be fine. Can't find a Shimano 110/38T, and the TA is $50.
Sugino actually _makes_ the stuff they sell.
TA does too, but beware an apples-to-oranges comparison. TA is a super premium product. Sugino also makes $150 rings, just not in 110mm. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I'd love to get a deal at a flea market, but I think for now I'll have to pay retail.
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I agree with David. I ride 6spd friction and 7spd shimano index bikes with sram, not shimano, chains and they all shift fine. I don't think pins and ramps make a difference that I care about especially on the front and -especially- in the middle. I can't imagine needing or wanting easier front shifting than on my friction shifting bike already has.
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I put chainring into ebay and found new FSA chainrings for $14. I then put 38t 110 BCD into froogle and found a sugino ring for $16 at airbomb. Of course there was $8 shipping on that one so that will bring it up to $24 delivered.
Since I have had such good feedback from the RBT, I have been finding lots of rings at good prices. Am leaning toward a Salsa ring from AE Bikes; I have a Salsa Shaft seatpost, and I love it, so it makes me want to buy from that company. But I am sure a Sugino would be fine.
IMO, a Sugino is at least as good a choice, probably better (personally, I'd rather the Sugino).
Since I have had such good feedback from the RBT, I have been finding lots of rings at good prices. Am leaning toward a Salsa ring from AE Bikes; I have a Salsa Shaft seatpost, and I love it, so it makes me want to buy from that company. But I am sure a Sugino would be fine. Can't find a Shimano 110/38T, and the TA is $50.
Sugino actually _makes_ the stuff they sell.
TA does too, but beware an apples-to-oranges comparison. TA is a super premium product. Sugino also makes $150 rings, just not in 110mm.
A,
I'd be quite happy with a good $25 ring. Whose do you recommend?
I don not have indexed front shifting. Are pins & ramps therefore irrelevant?
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Phil said:
Not completely irrelevant. They help "grab" and guide the chain as opposed to smashing the chain into the chainring, especially if your cables and housing are a bit gunked up. They make most bikes easier to shift up. Not really any help in downshifting.
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Phil, is a ring with ramps & pins easier to shift up TO, or easier to shift up OUT OF? This may be a moot point. I have not seen any 110/38T rings that have ramps and pins, have you?
Since I have had such good feedback from the RBT, I have been finding lots of rings at good prices. Am leaning toward a Salsa ring from AE Bikes; I have a Salsa Shaft seatpost, and I love it, so it makes me want to buy from that company. But I am sure a Sugino would be fine. Can't find a Shimano 110/38T, and the TA is $50.
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A Muzi said:
Sugino actually _makes_ the stuff they sell. TA does too, but beware an apples-to-oranges comparison. TA is a super premium product. Sugino also makes $150 rings, just not in 110mm.
BCDrums said:
I'd be quite happy with a good $25 ring. Whose do you recommend?
I would recommend a Sugino. Good quality, available, cheap.
Not every application requires a premium ring. Some do: http://www.yellowjersey.org/R33BIK.JPG -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
BCDrums wrote: > Since I have had such good feedback from the RBT, I have been > finding lots of rings at good prices. Am leaning toward a Salsa ring > from AE Bikes; I have a Salsa Shaft seatpost, and I love it, so it > makes me want to buy from that company. But I am sure a Sugino would > be fine. Can't find a Shimano 110/38T, and the TA is $50.
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Sugino actually _makes_ the stuff they sell. TA does too, but beware an apples-to-oranges comparison. TA is a super premium product. Sugino also makes $150 rings, just not in 110mm.
BCDrums said:
I'd be quite happy with a good $25 ring. Whose do you recommend?
I would recommend a Sugino. Good quality, available, cheap.
As another person pointed out, as long as the replacement ring has the ramps and pins like the original you shouldn't have a problem. Just look how worn your original got without you even noticing! But if you want your chainrings to last a long time, keep your chain clean and replace it promptly when it gets worn.
Although I do not do it, rotating a smaller ring 90 degrees periodically will enhance the longevity of the ring. Chainrings wear more quickly at the 1pm positon.
> BCDrums wrote: >> Since I have had such good feedback from the RBT, I have been >> finding lots of rings at good prices. Am leaning toward a Salsa >> ring from AE Bikes; I have a Salsa Shaft seatpost, and I love it, >> so it makes me want to buy from that company. But I am sure a >> Sugino would be fine. Can't find a Shimano 110/38T, and the TA is $50.
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A Muzi wrote: > Sugino actually _makes_ the stuff they sell. > TA does too, but beware an apples-to-oranges comparison. > TA is a super premium product. Sugino also makes $150 rings, just > not in 110mm.
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BCDrums said:
I'd be quite happy with a good $25 ring. Whose do you recommend?
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A Muzi said:
I would recommend a Sugino. Good quality, available, cheap. Not every application requires a premium ring. Some do: http://www.yellowjersey.org/R33BIK.JPG
BCDrums said:
Nice bike! What brand of crank is that?
2003 Record (old photo) -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I don not have indexed front shifting. Are pins & ramps therefore irrelevant?
Not completely irrelevant. They help "grab" and guide the chain as opposed to smashing the chain into the chainring, especially if your cables and housing are a bit gunked up. They make most bikes easier to shift up. Not really any help in downshifting.
Phil, is a ring with ramps & pins easier to shift up TO, or easier to shift up OUT OF?
This may be a moot point. I have not seen any 110/38T rings that have ramps and pins, have you?
Shift up to. I'm a 130/104 BCD guy myself, and that's the vast majority of what I saw when I worked at the LBS, too. So I'm no expert on 110 rings to be honest. -- Phil
