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  1. Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as someone
    put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other means of
    transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    I was pondering this after reading Eric Sandblom's article "get rich quick,
    repair bikes" and noticing the increased popularity of electricly assisted bikes
    nowadays.

    They may help with 2 and 4 above, and if they can be easily immobilised, may
    help with 5.

    I think most people here are agreed that life is generally easier for cyclists
    the more cyclists there are on the roads.

    It would be nice to think that electric cycle technology could play its part in
    making cycling more popular, especially for those who, because of physical
    impairment might not be capable of cycling at the moment.

  2. Den 2007-03-24 17:55:36 skrev Ziggy <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:


    It would be nice to think that electric cycle technology could play its
    part in
    making cycling more popular, especially for those who, because of
    physical
    impairment might not be capable of cycling at the moment.

    Electric bikes can be a good advertisement to get people cycling. So can
    folders and trikes. Between trikes, hand-driven trikes and bikes,
    extremely few people can't cycle.

    Erik Sandblom

    --
    Oil is for sissies

  3. Ziggy said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists'
    as someone put it today.


    Die hards :-)

    Quoted message said:

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding
    other means of transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    Mostly because other people don't do it and then any or all of the above as
    an excuse.

    --

    Geoff

  4. "Ziggy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as
    someone
    put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other
    means of
    transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?


    Not having a bike?

  5. "Ziggy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as
    someone
    put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) It's MUCH easier to simply get into a car than faff around with clothes,
    locks etc.
    2) It's too cold, windy, wet, hot, icy etc etc.
    3) Might get a puncture.
    4) No kudos, unlike a big posh car.

    --
    Simon Mason
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

  6. Ziggy said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as someone
    put it today.

    Quoted message said:

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    Quoted message said:

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other means of
    transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Quoted message said:

    Any others?

    They want people to think maybe they don't have a car.

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  7. Ziggy said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as someone
    put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other means of
    transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    Speaking to people round here, I'd say one reason is that cycling is
    perceived as being much too slow - they need to get wherever they're
    going as soon as possible, rather than just allowing enough time to get
    there.

    --
    Brian G
    www.wetwo.co.uk

  8. Ziggy said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as
    someone put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other
    means of transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    The first point that seems to raised whenever I get into such a discussion
    is "punctures".

    --
    ***My real address is m/ike at u/nmusic d/ot co dot u/k (removing /s)
    http://www.unmusic.co.uk - about me, music, geek sitcom etc.
    http://www.unmusic.co.uk/amhs/ - alt.music.home-studio

  9. Amongst those I have talked to "Roads too unpleasant/dangerous"
    features quite strongly among the older branch and domestic schedules
    for others. Two of the people I was in a meeting with (not bike
    related) would cycle in if a) the institute had showers where you had
    some degree of privacy (one shower as part of a bathroom) and b) if
    they didn't have to drop kids off to school, wife to work etc.

    On the latter, if I can show a reasonable alternative for getting the
    kids to school, both wife and husband may well cycle. About a 5-6 mile
    commute (Inchture to SCRI/Ninewells). The reason the husband has to
    take the wife is that he cna park for free wheras she most certainly
    can't. In this case, increasing car parking charges led to less people
    cycling though it is more the exception than the rule.

    For the former, he would commute by bike if the institute had
    sufficient infrastructure to make it readily practical. Decent bike
    sheds and showers as most people there commute quite a distance, but a
    distance that is emminently cycleable (up to ten miles flat - ie
    Newport->Invergowrie along NCN1/74 which is actually very good for
    that stretch.I think they have to cross about half a dozen roads, take
    one lift and there are no other obstacles in the journey, it is almost
    all traffic free and flat.

    ...d

  10. Ziggy said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as someone
    put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other means of
    transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    I was pondering this after reading Eric Sandblom's article "get rich quick,
    repair bikes" and noticing the increased popularity of electricly assisted bikes
    nowadays.

    They may help with 2 and 4 above, and if they can be easily immobilised, may
    help with 5.

    I think most people here are agreed that life is generally easier for cyclists
    the more cyclists there are on the roads.

    It would be nice to think that electric cycle technology could play its part in
    making cycling more popular, especially for those who, because of physical
    impairment might not be capable of cycling at the moment.


    Being "lazy".
    Always amazed at work to see the number of fit looking people who will
    wait for the lift to go up or down one or two floors when it would be so
    much quicker to use the stairs. Some people just don't like to exert
    themselves when there is an alternative.

    JonMcD

  11. Ziggy said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as someone
    put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other means of
    transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    Time I live in a very rural area and it is perceived to take too long to
    get anywhere, also main road twisty and narrow, back road very uphill
    and down dale. Been marked as route 8.

    ttfn
    Jane

  12. Simon Mason said:

    4) No kudos, unlike a big posh car.

    I think you're right, yet strangely I seem to get enormous kudos, no
    matter who I am in conversation with, if the conversation turns to
    transport and it comes out that I cycle the almost unbelievable distance
    of 11 miles a day simply travelling to and from work.

    --
    Danny Colyer <URL:http://www.colyer.plus.com/danny/>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down.
    Daddy, why did you put that down?" - Charlie Colyer, age 2

  13. in message <[email hidden]>, Ziggy

    (') said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as
    someone put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other
    means of transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    7) They think it will be hard work

    People these says are quite incredibly sedentary and lazy. I think that's
    the main reason for the overwhelming majority of people.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    Morning had broken, and I found when I looked that we had run out
    of copper roove nails.

  14. Simon Brooke wrote on 24/03/2007 21:27 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    7) They think it will be hard work

    People these says are quite incredibly sedentary and lazy. I think that's
    the main reason for the overwhelming majority of people.

    "Attitudes to cycling
    People generally have a positive view of cycling although many are
    deterred by safety concerns.
    • The majority of adults agree that everyone should be encouraged to
    cycle to help their health (87%), help the environment (79%) and to ease
    congestion (73%).
    • However, many adults are concerned about the safety of cycling. Almost
    half (47%) strongly agree that 'the idea of cycling on busy roads
    frightens me', with a further 27% tending to agree with this. Women are
    more likely to express concerns about safety (85%) than men (61%)"
    DfT Cycling Personal Travel Factsheet Jan 2007
    http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/statistics/datatablespublications/personal/factsheets/2005/cyclefactsheet

    --
    Tony

    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
    is no good evidence either way."
    - Bertrand Russell

  15. (Ziggy) said:

    Presuambly, most people here love to cycle - are 'diagnosed cyclists' as someone
    put it today.

    What do you think are the major reasons why people don't cycle?

    1) They think it's dangerous.
    2) They don't like hills and headwinds.
    3) They can't carry as much as they'd like.
    4) They find it inconvenient/unreliable - dressing up or finding other means of
    transport when it rains.
    5) Concerns about the bike being stolen when left unattended.
    6) They are not confident of their abilities

    Any others?

    Well you missed the obviously dominant ones - laziness and conformity.
    They aren't so socially acceptable as excuses though, compared to what
    you wrote.

    James

  16. On Mar 25, 3:44 am, "David Martin" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Amongst those I have talked to "Roads too unpleasant/dangerous"
    features quite strongly among the older branch and domestic schedules
    for others. Two of the people I was in a meeting with (not bike
    related) would cycle in if a) the institute had showers where you had
    some degree of privacy (one shower as part of a bathroom) and b) if
    they didn't have to drop kids off to school, wife to work etc.

    You mean they say that they would. In fact, if such problems were
    solved they would find another excuse.

    James

  17. "JonMcD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Being "lazy".
    Always amazed at work to see the number of fit looking people who will
    wait for the lift to go up or down one or two floors when it would be so
    much quicker to use the stairs. Some people just don't like to exert
    themselves when there is an alternative.

    JonMcD

    It is human nature to default to the choice of least effort.

  18. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    7) They think it will be hard work

    Well to be honest I do find my daily commute hard work (particularly Monday
    and Friday) to the point that after three days in a row I seem to have that
    "run out of energy" feeling. I did manage 4 days in a row recently but that
    was the exception rather than the rule. It was particularly hard work this
    week just gone with the persistent northerly headwind in combination with
    the normal 200 meters of ascent, although coming back home is a lot easier.

    On Thursday I cycled from Holmbury St Mary to North Holmwood via Leith hill
    and whilst I found that not too difficult at the time I seemed to have
    little power in the legs the next day and it took me nearly 10 minutes
    longer to get to work on the Friday.

    Adam

  19. Did'nt Thatcher once say that after a certain age sitting on a bus was
    a sign of failure....

    After a certain age still being on a bus must be a sign
    of..................???????????

  20. Den 2007-03-25 00:14:05 skrev Adam Lea <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:


    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    7) They think it will be hard work

    Well to be honest I do find my daily commute hard work (particularly
    Monday
    and Friday) to the point that after three days in a row I seem to have
    that
    "run out of energy" feeling.

    I know what you mean, but if you actually do it several times per week,
    it's a real reason, not just an excuse. I suspect lots of people don't
    cycle because they think they have to do it every day, which makes it seem
    difficult.

    When I run out of energy, I just allow more time or take the bus. This
    particularly useful if there's a bus you can catch partway. The luxury of
    not having to pedal seems to make it that much easier the next time I get
    tired. I just slow down a little.

    Erik Sandblom

    --
    Oil is for sissies

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