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  1. I want to buy a new cogset. What I have is a 12-25, what normally
    everyone would have.

    My purpose in switching is to shed some weight, but primarily to easen
    climbing. What are the pro's and cons of getting a 9 speed 11/23
    shimano compatible casette. And which cogset combo would give one best
    of both worlds - sprinting (flats) and climbing, assuming that one's
    bike fitness is moderate to good? -R.G

  2. Quoted message said:

    I want to buy a new cogset. What I have is a 12-25, <snip>
    My purpose in switching is to shed some weight, but primarily to easen
    climbing. What are the pro's and cons of getting a 9 speed 11/23
    shimano compatible casette.

    If you want to shed bike weight, you can look at the more expensive
    cogsets. If you want to easen climbing, you can get a cogset with a
    larger largest cog. Your der will probably handle a 30 tooth rear
    cog.

    If you want to shed some weight and easen climbing at the same time,
    ride more with your current cogset. Save your money. Put on lots of
    miles now, establish a good base, later on you can try sprints and
    pushing it on climbs.

    Regards,
    Larry

  3. LF said:
    Quoted message said:

    I want to buy a new cogset. What I have is a 12-25, <snip>
    My purpose in switching is to shed some weight, but primarily to easen
    climbing. What are the pro's and cons of getting a 9 speed 11/23
    shimano compatible casette.

    If you want to shed bike weight, you can look at the more expensive
    cogsets. If you want to easen climbing, you can get a cogset with a
    larger largest cog. Your der will probably handle a 30 tooth rear
    cog.

    If you want to shed some weight and easen climbing at the same time,
    ride more with your current cogset. Save your money. Put on lots of
    miles now, establish a good base, later on you can try sprints and
    pushing it on climbs.

    Regards,
    Larry

    Awesome motivation there. Thanks.

    I've been tempted to get another cogset but theres always something to
    destroying something with umpteen miles.

    I'm just wondering why some prefer riding 11/23's and 11/21's.

    -R.G

  4. Quoted message said:

    I want to buy a new cogset. What I have is a 12-25, what normally
    everyone would have.

    Here in Australia most road bikes are sold with 11-23, even though
    many people would be better off with a 25 at the low end.

    Quoted message said:

    My purpose in switching is to shed some weight, but primarily to easen
    climbing. What are the pro's and cons of getting a 9 speed 11/23
    shimano compatible casette.

    The pro is a higher top gear, so you can keep pedalling down descents
    well over 70km/h. The con is a higher bottom gear, which will force you
    to stand up and grind on steep hills.

    But if you're getting dropped on descents because you can't spin
    fast enough in top gear, and you never use your bottom gear when
    climbing, go for it.

    --
    Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw

  5. Quoted message said:

    I want to buy a new cogset. What I have is a 12-25, what normally
    everyone would have.

    My purpose in switching is to shed some weight,

    You may shed some weight off of your bod, since you will be working
    harder, but the amount of weight on the bike that you save is trivial.

    Quoted message said:

    but primarily to easen
    climbing.

    Losing the 25 will make climbing harder, not easier.

    Quoted message said:

    What are the pro's and cons of getting a 9 speed 11/23
    shimano compatible casette.

    Pro: You work harder. Con: you work harder.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach
    a conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw

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    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    LF said:
    Quoted message said:

    I want to buy a new cogset. What I have is a 12-25, <snip>
    My purpose in switching is to shed some weight, but primarily to easen
    climbing. What are the pro's and cons of getting a 9 speed 11/23
    shimano compatible casette.

    If you want to shed bike weight, you can look at the more expensive
    cogsets. If you want to easen climbing, you can get a cogset with a
    larger largest cog. Your der will probably handle a 30 tooth rear
    cog.

    If you want to shed some weight and easen climbing at the same time,
    ride more with your current cogset. Save your money. Put on lots of
    miles now, establish a good base, later on you can try sprints and
    pushing it on climbs.

    Regards,
    Larry

    Awesome motivation there. Thanks.

    I've been tempted to get another cogset but theres always something to
    destroying something with umpteen miles.

    I'm just wondering why some prefer riding 11/23's and 11/21's.

    Because they can.

    Setting aside weight for the moment, what about your
    current gear selection do you find unsatisfactory?
    --
    Michael Press

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    Quoted message said:


    I'm just wondering why some prefer riding 11/23's and 11/21's.


    Because they think they're the fastest thing on two wheels...


  8. Quoted message said:

    I'm just wondering why some prefer riding 11/23's and 11/21's.

    flat criteriums?
    Ciao
    Luca

  9. Well, I have the compact (34-50) up front. That saves weight ONLY
    because it replaced a triple.

    Now I find that a 23 on the back gives me plenty of low gear for
    climbing monsters in the Shawnee Nat'l Forest, etc. That has an 11 on
    the back just because I want to see how fast I can get going when
    descending those hills. Really, a 12 or 13 would do just fine.

    In central IL, being fully exposed to 20+ mph winds, I usually don't go
    below the 21, but I'm happy I have the 23 just in case it gets windy.

    What having a smaller range of cogs does is reduce the size of the jumps
    between cogs.

    Anyway, to ease climbing effort, your choices are pretty much to get a
    smaller front ring or a bigger back cog. Only someone like Tom Boonen
    or Robbie MacEwen are going to be able to use an 11 more effectively
    than they do a 12.

    Quoted message said:

    I want to buy a new cogset. What I have is a 12-25, what normally
    everyone would have.

    My purpose in switching is to shed some weight, but primarily to easen
    climbing. What are the pro's and cons of getting a 9 speed 11/23
    shimano compatible casette. And which cogset combo would give one best
    of both worlds - sprinting (flats) and climbing, assuming that one's
    bike fitness is moderate to good? -R.G

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