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  1. Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  2. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    That is pretty bad. Does it take that long to get a bucket of warm
    soapy water and a rag and wash the bike?

  3. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong. They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by
    just dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably
    would have been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it
    seems to work so well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated.
    Still... if there's a specail hell for people who don't take as good
    a care of their really nice bikes as they should... I could be a
    candidate. I did, however, finally get around to installing a new
    chain & cleaning things up last night.

    Is that a road bike? Very nice! (My mtb drivetrains look like that; the
    Mad One has stayed cleaner despite zero maintenance.)

    Bill "WL Dribbler" S.

  4. Quoted message said:

    Is that a road bike? Very nice! (My mtb drivetrains look like that; the
    Mad One has stayed cleaner despite zero maintenance.)

    Yes, that's a road bike. My "rain" bike is a whole lot cleaner. Or was;
    right now, the bike in the photo is looking pretty nice.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong. They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by
    just dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably
    would have been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it
    seems to work so well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated.
    Still... if there's a specail hell for people who don't take as good
    a care of their really nice bikes as they should... I could be a
    candidate. I did, however, finally get around to installing a new
    chain & cleaning things up last night.

    Is that a road bike? Very nice! (My mtb drivetrains look like that; the
    Mad One has stayed cleaner despite zero maintenance.)

    Bill "WL Dribbler" S.

  5. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    That's about what my Surly Long Haul Trucker looked like after a
    winter full of Seattle commuting - 35 miles a day in the rain.. I was
    finally prompted to clean it when I couldn't backpedal because the
    tension pulley was too gunked up. I now have ball bearing pulleys.
    Chain and cassette cleaned up pretty well, though. I figure I'll
    change them at the same time sometime before my cross-state tour this
    summer.

  6. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    I've never had a drivetrain 5% as nasty as that! Didn't matter if I
    was using motor oil in suspension, dry lube, or wax. How long does it
    take to quickly wipe off the crud on the chain after lubing??

    cue choir:
    http://tinyurl.com/2p4sl4

  7. Quoted message said:

    I've never had a drivetrain 5% as nasty as that! Didn't matter if I
    was using motor oil in suspension, dry lube, or wax. How long does it
    take to quickly wipe off the crud on the chain after lubing??

    I'm not a morning person. I get up for my 7:30am ride at 7:05. You want me
    to get up at 7:03am so I have time to deal with the chain??? :>😉

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "landotter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's
    a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really
    nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally
    get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    I've never had a drivetrain 5% as nasty as that! Didn't matter if I
    was using motor oil in suspension, dry lube, or wax. How long does it
    take to quickly wipe off the crud on the chain after lubing??

    cue choir:
    http://tinyurl.com/2p4sl4

  8. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    The thing is the crud finds its way down between the sprockets where
    it's not really doing anything, and onto the jockey wheels but away from
    the teeth. You may get reduced chain life like that (grinding paste
    etc.) but otherwise it doesn't cause too much of a problem, you're
    right. One of the strengths of the basic design really. The advice to
    people who can't be bothered to do much maintenance perhaps should be
    lots of oil without cleaning after all. Better than the chain going
    completely rusty which you quite often see on unloved bikes.

  9. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong. They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by
    just dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably
    would have been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it
    seems to work so well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated.
    Still... if there's a specail hell for people who don't take as good
    a care of their really nice bikes as they should... I could be a
    candidate. I did, however, finally get around to installing a new
    chain & cleaning things up last night.
    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    Hey that's not so bad. The point where it gets bad is when you need to take
    out the screwdriver to scrape off the donut-shaped "cake" enveloping the
    pulleys. And the donut around the 11t or 12t.

    I started using less and less lube on my commuter... Now I put just enough
    to prevent squeaking. Stays dry, keeps my pants clean, stays quiet.
    --
    Phil

  10. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've never had a drivetrain 5% as nasty as that! Didn't matter if I
    was using motor oil in suspension, dry lube, or wax. How long does it
    take to quickly wipe off the crud on the chain after lubing??

    I'm not a morning person. I get up for my 7:30am ride at 7:05. You want me
    to get up at 7:03am so I have time to deal with the chain??? :>😉

    Do it once per week on Sunday in lieu of 9am service--it's a religious
    thing. Wear your Park Stole (tm).

    Quoted message said:


    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "landotter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong.
    They do.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's
    a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really
    nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally
    get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    Quoted message said:

    I've never had a drivetrain 5% as nasty as that! Didn't matter if I
    was using motor oil in suspension, dry lube, or wax. How long does it
    take to quickly wipe off the crud on the chain after lubing??

    Quoted message said:

    cue choir:
    http://tinyurl.com/2p4sl4

  11. You've ruined that bike. You'll have to grab another new one off the shelf.
    Since you are getting a new bike, because you ruined that
    one, you can donate that bike to me. I only have 4 bikes, but when should I
    come and pick it up.
    G 🙂
    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong. They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally
    get around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  12. Troll! This cannot be real. The photographs are too well made to be done
    by a person who would neglect a bike. They are sharp, well lit and mostly
    well composed. If you really are a store owner, I suggest you hang these
    prints for the public to admire, and then turn it into a perpetual rotating
    show by you and your customers, of bicycle-related photography.

    Hey, that's not a bad idea.

  13. On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:09:12 -0700 in rec.bicycles.tech, "Mike

    Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.

    Not anywhere near as bad as our bikes up here in Rain
    Country(tm), where the snow is now gone off the roads but the
    winter grit remains, mixed with the magnesium chloride they spray
    to melt snow. it really sticks to everything when wet, and is
    impossible to remove when dry.

  14. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    Oh, that's just gross.

    Veloben

  15. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is that a road bike? Very nice! (My mtb drivetrains look like that; the
    Mad One has stayed cleaner despite zero maintenance.)

    Yes, that's a road bike. My "rain" bike is a whole lot cleaner. Or was;
    right now, the bike in the photo is looking pretty nice.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong. They do.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by
    just dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably
    would have been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it
    seems to work so well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated.
    Still... if there's a specail hell for people who don't take as good
    a care of their really nice bikes as they should... I could be a
    candidate. I did, however, finally get around to installing a new
    chain & cleaning things up last night.

    Quoted message said:

    Is that a road bike? Very nice! (My mtb drivetrains look like that; the
    Mad One has stayed cleaner despite zero maintenance.)

    Quoted message said:

    Bill "WL Dribbler" S.

    Well geee Mike, after 50 or so hours a week of working on other's
    bicycles, I'm not keen to work on my own either.

    One of the reasons I got a fixie-so I wouldn't have to clean it.

  16. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong. They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Quoted message said:

    Still... if there's a specail hell for people who don't take as good a
    care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate.

    Well, if this is considered to be seriously dirty by the r.b.t.
    community I'll better not post pictures of my bikes. To me this looks
    just like a bike that is used regularly and not only on sunny days.
    Bikes are for riding, not for spending hours cleaning the drivetrain.

    Günther

  17. Günther Schwarz said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was
    wrong. They do.

    Quoted message said:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning
    Still... if there's a specail hell for people who don't take as good a
    care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate.

    Well, if this is considered to be seriously dirty by the r.b.t.
    community I'll better not post pictures of my bikes. To me this looks
    just like a bike that is used regularly and not only on sunny days.

    Looks to me like a bike that's lubed sloppily.

    Quoted message said:

    Bikes are for riding, not for spending hours cleaning the drivetrain.

    Wiping the chain with a rag after a rain ride, and spending ten
    minutes lubing per week aren't a hardship as far as I'm concerned.
    I've done tons of commuting in winter slop without having build-up
    like Mike's.

  18. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    Hi Mike,

    Well, can't you just delegate your personal bike maintenance/repairs
    to your staff?

    I fuss over my bike because I have the time, and this kind of thing is
    in my nature. I don't mind it - J.

  19. Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.

    Quoted message said:

    Well, can't you just delegate your personal bike maintenance/repairs
    to your staff?
    I fuss over my bike because I have the time, and this kind of thing is
    in my nature. I don't mind it - J.

    Let the guys TOUCH MY BIKE? I don't think so!
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  20. A Muzi said:
    Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Yuck. I wasn't sure the photos would really tell the story, but I was wrong.
    They do.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainReactionBicycles/BikeNeedsCleaning

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Amazing how long you can keep something working reasonably well by just
    dumping more Rock n Roll gold lube onto the chain. I probably would have
    been better off not ever discovering the stuff, since it seems to work so
    well regardless of how much crud you've accumulated. Still... if there's a
    specail hell for people who don't take as good a care of their really nice
    bikes as they should... I could be a candidate. I did, however, finally get
    around to installing a new chain & cleaning things up last night.


    Quoted message said:

    Well, can't you just delegate your personal bike maintenance/repairs
    to your staff?
    I fuss over my bike because I have the time, and this kind of thing is
    in my nature. I don't mind it - J.

    Let the guys TOUCH MY BIKE? I don't think so!
    --
    Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    You are right Andrew,

    I have found that no one is going to do the right thing to my bike (as
    defined by me). I have my own ideas about what should be done, and I
    do not want to take the time to explain it to someone else. It is
    easier and faster to just do it myself.

    When it comes to having a LBS do the work, no hourly worker is going
    to fuss over my bike the way I need it fussed over. If he were to do
    that, his boss would surely fire him for being too slow - J.

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