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  1. Hi,

    I bought some ergoshift levers on ebay (Centaur) and a rear derailleur
    (Chorus 10speed) which some would say is a waste as I plan to put them on my
    old steel commuter (which is outfitted with mid 80's Suntour (great stuff
    for its day I think as it's still going strong). It's really sad for me as
    I would have preferred to keep it all original spec but in keeping with
    Boyle's Law I replaced the brake callipers, (couldn't buy pads anymore) and
    things kind of spread out from there.

    Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new Campag
    compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping my
    old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on getting
    a new 10 speed one of those too?

    The only other question is whether or not it is easy to obtain a cable stop
    for the down tube to run the cables properly (if I am lucky I might be able
    to cover the hole where the shifters are on the down tube with this)?

    Many thanks for any thoughts you may have on this.

    CN

  2. Campag_nut said:

    Hi,

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new Campag
    compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping my
    old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on getting
    a new 10 speed one of those too?

    Any friction shift front mech should work with any chainrings provided
    the shapes matchs (which they should unless you've made big changes to
    the chain ring size).

    Cheers

    Joel

  3. Campag_nut said:

    Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new Campag
    compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping my
    old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on
    getting a new 10 speed one of those too?

    You shouldn't have too much of a problem. It's the shifters that have all
    the indexing, the front derailleur is still pretty much the same. I changed
    mine from 7sp to 9sp and found I needed to use a vise-grip to squeeze the
    side plates slightly closer together as the narrower chain demands a closer
    derailleur cage. You'll probably have to do this to get it shifting
    correctly with 10sp.

    Quoted message said:

    The only other question is whether or not it is easy to obtain a cable
    stop for the down tube to run the cables properly (if I am lucky I might
    be able to cover the hole where the shifters are on the down tube with
    this)?

    You need one of these:
    http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/shimano-down-tube-cable-stops.htm

    I think they should be readily available from a quality LBS.

    --
    Cheers
    Peter

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  4. Peter,

    This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

    I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this now
    a "vintage" concept?

    CN

    Quoted message said:

    You need one of these:
    http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/shimano-down-tube-cable-stops.htm

    I think they should be readily available from a quality LBS.

    --
    Cheers
    Peter

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    ~~ ~ _- \,
    ~~ (*)/ (*)

  5. Campag_nut said:

    Peter,

    This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

    I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this
    now a "vintage" concept?

    No as I understand it these things simply bolt into your down tube gear
    lever bosses (you do have these on the frame?). Maybe not the ones on this
    website, its not too clear (?), but have a look at a few bikes in your LBS.
    Lots do have these bolted-on cable stops, and i'm sure you should be able to
    get them, or order them in.

    --
    Cheers
    Peter

    ~~~ ~ _@
    ~~ ~ _- \,
    ~~ (*)/ (*)

  6. Campag_nut said:

    Hi,

    Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new Campag
    compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping my
    old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on getting
    a new 10 speed one of those too?

    The only other question is whether or not it is easy to obtain a cable stop
    for the down tube to run the cables properly (if I am lucky I might be able
    to cover the hole where the shifters are on the down tube with this)?

    Many thanks for any thoughts you may have on this.

    CN

    I run 8 speed chorus levers onto a Suntour ARX front changer with no problems. To stretch the issue all the way I have a 46/36/26 triple set up which all work perfectly. I am only running 7 cogs on the back. I'm not sure how the ARX front will handle the variation in chainline if you have more than that.

    Shouldn't be too hard to find a simple band adapter to provide cable stops on the down tube. These were common for bikes that had the shifters mounted on the stem. For the ability to fine tune the cables it may be better to get some of the units which attached to the braze-ons for the down tube shifters as they have barrel adjusters for cable tension.

    RoryW

  7. Campag_nut said:

    Peter,

    This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

    I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this now
    a "vintage" concept?

    If you can't find one locally (a clamp-on cablestop), contact
    Ridgway's Cycles in Stafford, Brisbane - they have boxes of this sort
    of stuff and I got one of these items from them. They told me they
    often help out other bike shops.

    Ridgway's Cycles609 Stafford Rd Stafford 4053 Phone/Fax (07) 3355 9653

    Donga

  8. Thanks mate, I'll give them a go!
    CN
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    Quoted message said:
    Campag_nut said:

    Peter,

    This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

    I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this
    now
    a "vintage" concept?

    If you can't find one locally (a clamp-on cablestop), contact
    Ridgway's Cycles in Stafford, Brisbane - they have boxes of this sort
    of stuff and I got one of these items from them. They told me they
    often help out other bike shops.

    Ridgway's Cycles609 Stafford Rd Stafford 4053 Phone/Fax (07) 3355 9653

    Donga

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