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  1. Hi everybody.

    I just bought my first off road bike, a Saracen Mantra 1. I
    absolutely love it, but I have a few questions.

    1. My Tektro IO disk brakes are constantly rubbing. I can do a few
    adjustments to stop the rubbing, but then I can't stop very well. Is this
    simply because they're new?

    2. Is my bike as good as I think it is? I don't know anything about bikes.
    The specs are here.

    <URL:http://www.saracencycles.com/index.php?
    option=com_content&task=view&id=427&Itemid=117>

    Thanks in advance for any infos.

    --
    Tess

  2. Terézke Lakhani wrote on 09/06/2007 20:55 +0100:

    Quoted message said:

    Hi everybody.

    I just bought my first off road bike, a Saracen Mantra 1. I
    absolutely love it, but I have a few questions.

    1. My Tektro IO disk brakes are constantly rubbing. I can do a few
    adjustments to stop the rubbing, but then I can't stop very well. Is this
    simply because they're new?

    Give them a few hours riding to bed in but they are known for needing
    careful adjustment to stop them rubbing. Also they are prone to the
    disc warping so check it is running true and bend it back flat if not

    Quoted message said:


    2. Is my bike as good as I think it is? I don't know anything about bikes.

    If you are having fun on it that is all that matters.

    --
    Tony

    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
    is no good evidence either way."
    - Bertrand Russell

  3. Terézke Lakhani said:

    2. Is my bike as good as I think it is? I don't know anything about bikes.
    The specs are here.

    <URL:http://www.saracencycles.com/index.php?
    option=com_content&task=view&id=427&Itemid=117>

    My experience with Saracen, which I must add has not been supplemented
    since c1997, is that Saracen=[censored].

    Whilst they used to come with branded components, the care with which
    they were assembled was nil. The willingness of Saracen to remedy their
    shoddy workmanship and faults was also nil.

    Your problem with the brakes does not surprise me, even though brakes
    should not be expected to rub on a new bike.

    The spec lists many unbranded/unheard of (to me) components. Those that
    I *do* recognise are lower down the range.

    I cannot see a price but it strikes me as being typical of a £75-£125 bike.

    Sorry to sound negative but you *did* ask!

  4. in message <[email hidden]>, Terézke Lakhani

    (') said:

    1. My Tektro IO disk brakes are constantly rubbing. I can do a few
    adjustments to stop the rubbing, but then I can't stop very well. Is this
    simply because they're new?

    They may bed in a bit with time. Even good disk brakes can rub a bit. But
    persistent rubbing, especially if it's actually slowing the wheel, is a
    real nuisance. The probable cause is that the calipers are not perfectly
    aligned with the rotors. If this is the case, the first thing to try is to
    slightly loosen off all the bolts which hold the caliper to the fork/frame
    (do NOT remove them!) Then, get someone else to hold the brake lever
    firmly so the caliper grips the rotor so that you can't turn the wheel at
    all, and while they are still holding tighten up all the bolts. This often
    works.

    If it doesn't work then it's possible that the places on the fork and frame
    where the calipers mount may need to be faced, which needs special
    equipment and you'll have to get a good bike shop to do.

    Quoted message said:

    2. Is my bike as good as I think it is? I don't know anything about
    bikes. The specs are here.

    <URL:http://www.saracencycles.com/index.php?
    option=com_content&task=view&id=427&Itemid=117>

    It's a reasonable beginners hardtail, should be strong enough to do a bit
    of jumping and not too heavy for a bit of cross country. If you start
    doing much cross country, though, you'll want to replace those tyres -
    they'll be quite heavy and hard work. Keep your chain clean, and replace
    it in good time - otherwise your transmission may wear quickly.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Woz: 'All the best people in life seem to like LINUX.'
    ;; <URL:http://www.woz.org/woz/cresponses/response03.html>

  5. Richard Bates wrote on 09/06/2007 21:27 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    I cannot see a price but it strikes me as being typical of a £75-£125 bike.

    Sorry to sound negative but you *did* ask!

    What Mountain Bike disagrees with you.
    http://www.whatmtb.com/biketestdetails.asp?id=635

    --
    Tony

    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
    is no good evidence either way."
    - Bertrand Russell

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Bates

    (') said:
    Terézke Lakhani said:

    2. Is my bike as good as I think it is? I don't know anything about
    bikes. The specs are here.

    <URL:http://www.saracencycles.com/index.php?
    option=com_content&task=view&id=427&Itemid=117>

    [snip: negativity]

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry to sound negative but you *did* ask!

    I confess I had the same initial reaction as you, but then I went and
    looked at the spec. Yes, Saracen have produced some awful rubbish over the
    years, but this looks not bad. The geometry is reasonable; the components
    will work, and over time he'll be able to upgrade them. It's his shiny new
    bike, and it's his pride and joy. OK, it may not be what you or I would
    have recommended, but there's no need to be harsh.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ' ' <------- this blank intentionally spaced left

  7. Tony Raven said:

    Richard Bates wrote on 09/06/2007 21:27 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    I cannot see a price but it strikes me as being typical of a £75-£125
    bike.

    Sorry to sound negative but you *did* ask!

    What Mountain Bike disagrees with you.
    http://www.whatmtb.com/biketestdetails.asp?id=635

    Indeed - looks good for the money. Nearly 40lbs seems a lot though -
    most MTBs where weight is given (Edinburgh for one) rarely go over 30lbs
    (13.5kg) at the 300UKP plus range.

    Rob

  8. in message <[email hidden]>, Rob

    (') said:
    Tony Raven said:

    Richard Bates wrote on 09/06/2007 21:27 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    I cannot see a price but it strikes me as being typical of a £75-£125
    bike.

    Sorry to sound negative but you *did* ask!

    What Mountain Bike disagrees with you.
    http://www.whatmtb.com/biketestdetails.asp?id=635

    Indeed - looks good for the money. Nearly 40lbs seems a lot though -
    most MTBs where weight is given (Edinburgh for one) rarely go over 30lbs
    (13.5kg) at the 300UKP plus range.

    Yes. Same price as a Specialized Hardrock, which is an amazing 13 lbs
    lighter (and a very nice bike for the money).

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; when in the [censored], the wise man plants courgettes

  9. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Rob

    (') said:
    Tony Raven said:

    Richard Bates wrote on 09/06/2007 21:27 +0100:
    >
    > I cannot see a price but it strikes me as being typical of a £75-£125
    > bike.
    >
    > Sorry to sound negative but you *did* ask!

    What Mountain Bike disagrees with you.
    http://www.whatmtb.com/biketestdetails.asp?id=635

    Indeed - looks good for the money. Nearly 40lbs seems a lot though -
    most MTBs where weight is given (Edinburgh for one) rarely go over 30lbs
    (13.5kg) at the 300UKP plus range.

    Yes. Same price as a Specialized Hardrock, which is an amazing 13 lbs
    lighter (and a very nice bike for the money).

    hopefully the weight gives extra strenght. as it's a downhill/stunt
    bike? my mate is after a P2 i think it is. so to bounce around on.

    roger

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