Get your carbon bling while you can!!!

Bugbear said:

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Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum. I
predict that in 30 years carbon fiber will be as cheap as plastic is
today, and there will be a newer, better and more expensive material
that will take over as the "new" carbon. Your carbon bling will be as
unwanted as your old steel frame bike.
Suppliers of bling are just scaremongering to push up the price.
We cyclists can create a new "carbon credits" industry by using up
excess carbon in bike frames!

Friday

Friday said:

Your carbon bling will be as
unwanted as your old steel frame bike.

Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?

Graeme

Graeme Dods said:

Friday said:

Your carbon bling will be as
unwanted as your old steel frame bike.

Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?

Graeme

Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame lately?

Friday

Friday said:

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.

Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.

Travis

Friday said:

Graeme Dods said:

Friday said:

Your carbon bling will be as
unwanted as your old steel frame bike.

Quoted message said:

Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?

Quoted message said:

Graeme

Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame lately?

Friday

Nope, I just bought another steel Merckx..got any to sell??

Travis said:

Friday said:

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.

Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.

The 'cap" atop the Washington Monument is aluminum, for similar
reasons.

On 2007-06-13, Travis (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Friday said:

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.

Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.

It's very impolite to look at the Queen's crown jewels.

PS. Solidified electricity.

--
TimC

Quoted message said:

As you know, Linus took the word the penguins kept saying over and
over again, rot13'ed it, and used that as the name of his OS.

So, who's going to record this .au file:
"Hello, my name is Yvahf Gbeinyqf, and I pronounce yvahk, yvahk."
-- Anthony de Boer && Michel Buijsman in ASR

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:42:38 -0700, Bugbear <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html

Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?

I thought this was quite an old story - it's been doing the rounds for
a couple of years and the price point for carbon bike parts keeps
coming down because there's not much material and a lot of
manufacturing cost, so economies of scale on the latter easily
outweigh rising costs of the former.

Aluminium is also getting expensive, alongside all other industrial
metals, as demand rises from fast growing economies. As far as bikes
go, I'd be more worried about criminal gangs stealing drain covers
because the iron is now so costly that it's a worthwhile crime. That
will snap your frame whether it's carbon, aluminium or steel when you
drop the front wheel down an uncovered manhole in the dark.

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

"Travis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Friday said:

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.

Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.

Travis

Apparently Napoleon used to have aluminium plates and cutlery for his most
favoured guests. The riff-raff had to make do with gold and silver.

Travis said:

Friday said:

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.

Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.

Yes, the top of the Washington monument in Washington, DC is aluminum;
it was a precious metal at the time
From http://www.nps.gov/archive/wamo/history/chap5.htm :

"To complete the obelisk, the aluminum capstone weighing 100 ounces, the
largest single piece of aluminum cast to that time, was placed atop the
pyramidion on Saturday, December 6, 1884."

Mark J.

Friday said:

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum. I
predict that in 30 years carbon fiber will be as cheap as plastic is
today, and there will be a newer, better and more expensive material
that will take over as the "new" carbon.

I predict that in 30 years global warming will have forced us all to
live in cities under the sea!

BTH

BT Humble said:

Friday said:

Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum. I
predict that in 30 years carbon fiber will be as cheap as plastic is
today, and there will be a newer, better and more expensive material
that will take over as the "new" carbon.

I predict that in 30 years global warming will have forced us all to
live in cities under the sea!

BTH

Under the sea,
Under the sea.
There'll be no accusations,
Just friendly crustaceans,
under the sea...

Friday said:

Graeme Dods wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?

Quoted message said:

Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame
lately?

Why would you want to sell a good steel frame? :-)

Theo

Bugbear said:

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html

Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?

This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's [censored].

Bleve said:

Bugbear said:

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html

Quoted message said:

Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?

This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's [censored].

Bulls excrete carbon fiber?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Johnny Sunset said:

Bleve said:

On Jun 13, 5:42 pm, Bugbear wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?

Quoted message said:

This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's [censored].

Bulls excrete carbon fiber?

In fully formed, bicycle shaped objects.

Friday said:

Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame lately?

That doesn't mean that it is unwanted.
Merely that we are not prepared to pay the asking price {:-).

Lets face it, if you no longer consider it good enough, why should we
pay a good price for it?

<dang, don't people realise you don't pay top dollar for second hand
steel for bicycle projects>

TimC said:

It's very impolite to look at the Queen's crown jewels.

Old B&S ball stickers?

Bleve said:

Bugbear said:

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html

Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?

This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's [censored].

it is indeed. for instance, airbus use composites, but a lot of it is
"glare", not carbon. it's therefore misleading b.s.