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Riding a coker in a 10k or marathon?

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  1. Anybody ever do this? If so, did yo0u have any problems getting
    registered to ride with the runners? I tried the search and came up
    empty. I want to ride in a 10k coming up 7/15, but so far I haven't
    been able to contact the organizer to find out if I can ride with the
    runners.

    A running store who sponsers it said there shouldn't be any problem,
    but wasn't 100% sure. I really don't want to do the "fun bike cruise"
    that starts a little before the run. I can see how bikes wouldn't fit
    in since they's so much bigger and there's so many of them. I'll prolly
    be the only person on a Uni.

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  2. as a runner, I'd say that if there was a vote, I'd vote against
    unicycles being ridden in a 10k or marathon alongside the runners.

    the start would be a total mess, even on foot it gets tricky. you have
    to dodge and weave through the people till you can finally run against
    people around your skill level. if you were to just wait till the field
    thins out a little and then hop on then your just being a road block.
    not to mention what should happen if you upd.

    I don't even like seeing walkers in 10k's. part of the bond of running
    is that everyone's giving it their all and everyone "enjoys" mutual
    suffering. and then you have that person who walks taking their grand
    old time, not even tired at the end. just slowing up the event for
    everyone else.

    now I know that you won't be back of the pack, you'll probably be near
    the front (given the fact that you have a coker, you should be
    winning). it's cool if your the underdog (uni in a bike race), but when
    you have a very distinct advantage, it takes out the sport of it, even
    though people know it won't be fair.

    you could ask to be a pacer, that might be something the race
    organizers might like.

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  3. Being a pacer would be a great novelty for the event and sounds like
    fun. Just make sure you can ride at the right speed the runners need,
    and are quick enough. Compare top runners best times and your best
    times over the same course and you could be in for a surprise. Start by
    comparing running event times to UNICON 10k and marathon times (and
    remember you'll be quite a bit slower than the top finishers).
    I'm very sceptical it would work... go for the fun ride and maybe try
    next year.

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  4. I've ridden as a pacer/marshall in local club running racers, but I
    think that in a big run it would be a very bad idea, very different
    pace and style of motion. Racers are often anarchic and being on a uni
    could cause some nasty accidents. Also they'll quite likely have to
    refuse you on grounds of insurance. Maybe you could ride as a pacer of
    if you have a parade of vehicles running at the front, but riding in
    the pack doesn't sound like such a good idea.

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  5. This sounds like a very bad idea. On a coker you'll be up with the
    fastest runners - if you're not, you probably shouldn't be
    contemplating it anyway. You will be in the way, the runners won't know
    how to pass you safely, you'll cause chaos and possibly injury if you
    UPD in the wrong place. I would have no hesitation in excluding you
    from any of the races that I organise, with the possible exception of
    being back-marker - and then you'd not be able to ride slowly enough on
    a coker.

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  6. The first big race we ever did in NZ was a 70km running race. We didn't
    win but we didn't do too badly considering we were pretty novice with
    racing at the time and riding on 28" and 26" unicycles.

    On a Coker you should easily go faster than you would running. On the
    other hand, a 24" or 26" might be more enjoyable because then you'd be
    going at a more similar speed to the runners and have the
    maneuvaribility to start in a big bunch.

    I think in the end every event organiser and every event is different.
    Hopefully yours is amenable to having unicyclists participating.

    Good Luck!

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  7. I average about 12mph on the bike path where the 10k will take place,
    and routinely pass not only seasoned runners (preparing for the race)
    but *most* bikers with ease! There are not likely to be any "elite"
    runners as the 10k doesn't provide any money or much glory; it's mostly
    for fun.😄

    Even the best runners in this event probably won't even do a 5 minute
    mile, which just happens to be 12mph, let alone maintain that speed
    very long. The vast majority of runners I would leave in the dust!
    But, alas, I agree that it wouldn't be safe or practical to be in the
    "mix" with lots of runners; too much chance for collision and injury to
    me or someone else. I guess I'll just stick with the bike 10k instead.

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  8. I think it's all up to the organizers, who bear the liability for the
    event. I've heard of past cases of unicyclists being allowed to ride
    ahead of the runners, which I believe is what Floyd Beattie did back in
    the 80s when he set a marathon record for himself at 1:58.

    I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want you in amongst the runners. They
    don't know you well enough, and the runners don't know unicyclists well
    enough for it to be a comfortable environment for them. But if they let
    you start 10 minutes ahead...

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  9. Hi Terry,

    I've done a 12km fun run, which had a rollerblade category in front of
    the runners, which was where I entered. That started 4 minutes before
    the runners I think. I knew I wasn't going to have any hassle, because
    I knew I could beat every world running record from 5km up to 15km, and
    the runners didn't catch up with me. I averaged about 14mph. The first
    runner came in about 8-10 minutes after me, I think his average was
    about 12.5.

    For speeds, in a local club 10k, typically the winning time will be
    just over half an hour. Which puts them at about 12.5 mph average.
    Unless you've got a lot faster in the last month, I'd expect you to
    average 10-11mph over that distance.

    With a 10km, the start makes a big difference, so the start of a 10km
    race like that is always mad, no way I'd want to be on a coker in that.
    For longer races, like Ken's 70km, the start doesn't make so much
    difference, you can chill out there and overtake people once it spreads
    out.

    A coker is particularly bad, cos any fall means you potentially take
    out a lot of people with that big wheel, and with the height you're
    falling from.

    Joe

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  10. joemarshall said:

    Hi Terry, For speeds, in a local club 10k, typically the winning time
    will be just over half an hour. Which puts them at about 12.5 mph
    average. Unless you've got a lot faster in the last month, I'd expect
    you to average 10-11mph over that distance. Joe

    Well I've been doing 12-20 mile [36er] rides several time per week, and
    yesterday, we did a 20 miler and my max speed was 14.8mph, and an
    average of 12mph. Currently 12mph seems to be a good, comfortable
    cruising speed, but I'll fluctuate sometimes between 10.5 -13mph. I'm
    really feeling like I'm ready to move to 110mm cranks, but I'm not sure
    if it will make much difference in speed, but I sure know my new brake
    will come in handy for dh with 110's.😄

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