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Taxonomy of cycling shoes and pedals?

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  1. I returned to cycling two years ago and was persuaded to buy a pair of
    cycling shoes. In the shop I replied 'yes' to the question, 'will you
    require to walk in them'. They have studs not unlike football boots
    and a recessed cleat; Diadora brand.

    Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_shoe and elsewhere, it
    seems they are what is called 'mountain bike shoes'.

    It could be that the pedal type and shoe are SPD?

    When looking at cycling shoes in websites (e.g. Wiggle), and I suppose
    pedals too, the types are not clear to me.

    Are there just two types of cycling shoe in common use?

    Pros and cons --- for a road bike?

    TIA,

    Jon C.

  2. Quoted message said:

    I returned to cycling two years ago and was persuaded to buy a pair of
    cycling shoes. In the shop I replied 'yes' to the question, 'will you
    require to walk in them'. They have studs not unlike football boots
    and a recessed cleat; Diadora brand.

    Looking athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_shoeand elsewhere, it
    seems they are what is called 'mountain bike shoes'.

    It could be that the pedal type and shoe are SPD?

    When looking at cycling shoes in websites (e.g. Wiggle), and I suppose
    pedals too, the types are not clear to me.

    Are there just two types of cycling shoe in common use?

    Pros and cons --- for a road bike?

    I think your bike shop has been trying to sell you the same pair that
    I have - mine cost £45 and were 'cheap'. I think most 'MTB' shoes
    have holes for 2 screws to attach a small cleat inside a recess
    whereas road ones are larger and take 3 screws?
    Even with a recess for the cleat, it still clicks on the ground as you
    walk and it's not perfect but better than no recess I would imagine.

    peter

  3. "naked_draughtsman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I returned to cycling two years ago and was persuaded to buy a pair of
    cycling shoes. In the shop I replied 'yes' to the question, 'will you
    require to walk in them'. They have studs not unlike football boots
    and a recessed cleat; Diadora brand.

    Looking athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_shoeand elsewhere, it
    seems they are what is called 'mountain bike shoes'.

    It could be that the pedal type and shoe are SPD?

    When looking at cycling shoes in websites (e.g. Wiggle), and I suppose
    pedals too, the types are not clear to me.

    Are there just two types of cycling shoe in common use?

    Pros and cons --- for a road bike?

    It is possible to find "touring" shoes, midway between road (very stiff and
    unsuitable for walking) and MTB shoes (heavy). I have Specialized Sonoma
    shoes, about 50 squid.

  4. in message <[email hidden]>,

    (' ') said:

    I returned to cycling two years ago and was persuaded to buy a pair of
    cycling shoes. In the shop I replied 'yes' to the question, 'will you
    require to walk in them'. They have studs not unlike football boots
    and a recessed cleat; Diadora brand.

    Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_shoe and elsewhere, it
    seems they are what is called 'mountain bike shoes'.

    It could be that the pedal type and shoe are SPD?

    When looking at cycling shoes in websites (e.g. Wiggle), and I suppose
    pedals too, the types are not clear to me.

    Are there just two types of cycling shoe in common use?

    There are two /main/ types in common use. The original Shimano SPD system -
    now marketed mainly as a mountain bike system, but actually better for
    utility bikes - uses two bolts side by side. This bolt pattern is shared
    by almost all the real mountain bike pedal systems such as egg-beaters and
    ATACs. I'm not sure what bolt pattern Speedplay use, but I imagine it's
    the same.

    The other main type is the Look delta three bolt pattern, now used by most
    road-oriented cleat systems, including Look, Time, Campagnolo, Keywin,
    Shimano SPD SL, and others. The three bolts form an arrowhead pointing
    forwards. But Shimano's SPD-R road system uses a completely different
    pattern.

    Three bolt cleats are all much bigger than two bolt cleats. They spread the
    pedalling load over a wider area of your foot and are consequently less
    likely to cause hot-spots and other pressure discomfort. They're the
    system to choose if you regularly ride long distances.

    In general, three-bolt cleats are not designed to be walked on. Shoes
    designed for three-bolt cleats often have extremely stiff, smooth and
    slippy soles. If you regularly need to walk even a few yards off the bike
    with your cycling shoes on, you're probably better off with a two-bolt
    system.

    Shoes designed for the two-bolt side-by-side systems typically are designed
    to be walked in. The cleat is much smaller and can be recessed into the
    sole. Some of these shoes are designed for mountain biking and have studs
    or tread patterns designed to grip on mud and wet rock, but others are
    more discreet and won't look out of place in any informal situation. I
    don't know of any cycling shoe that you could comfortably wear into a
    formal business meeting, however, which is a shame. Anyone?

    Personally I use Look Keos (three bolt) on my 'good' road bike, and Time
    ATACs (two bolt) on my mountain bikes and on my old road bike.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; All in all you're just another hick in the mall
    -- Drink C'lloid

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    Quoted message said:

    I returned to cycling two years ago and was persuaded to buy a pair of
    cycling shoes. In the shop I replied 'yes' to the question, 'will you
    require to walk in them'. They have studs not unlike football boots
    and a recessed cleat; Diadora brand.

    Quoted message said:

    It could be that the pedal type and shoe are SPD?

    Quoted message said:

    Pros and cons --- for a road bike?

    Given that you wouldn't want to walk very far/at all with 'road' shoes,
    you've made the right choice of cleat. Road shoes have a smooth sole with
    the cleat standing well proud, which makes walking interesting to say the
    least (not only do you bugger the cleat up, but you keep slipping on smooth
    surfaces 'cos only the heel and cleat touch the floor).

    Road cleats provide a larger, arguably more secure, platform that aids in
    silly-crazy all out sprinting. This in no way compensates for the fact
    that you will go [censored] over [censored] on smooth floors unless you're very careful
    or that you'll wreck the cleat after even a modest amount of walking.

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