Re: Low-carb diets' effects linked to rise in newly identified 'starvation hormone'

MD/PhD said:

TC said:

Diarmid said:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-06/cp-lde053007.php

<snip>

Quoted message said:

I love it when advanced degree pinheads examine a ***diet*** related
issue like obesity and the goal of their research is not to resolve
the diet issue but to find a drug.

Quoted message said:

*** quote
"What's really exciting is that mice with excess FGF21-even when they
are fed-look like they are fasted," Kliewer said. "It's startling that
you can give one hormone and flip the whole metabolic profile."

Quoted message said:

"We think these findings would increase the desirability of a drug
that [might work through this mechanism] to increase fat oxidation in
the liver," added Maratos-Flier,....
*** unquote

Quoted message said:

I would be excited if I could make million$ by pushing another drug
down peoples throats.

Would be concerned about the PPAR gamma activation by such a drug.
Afterall, Avandia is a PPAR gamma agonist.

There is also the issue of "torpor" which the investigators have
described as being part of low-carbing and fasting.

Just as fasting is an ill-advised method of losing weight, the issues
of "torpor" and lipid-peroxidation effects of hyperketonemia make low-
carbing also ill advised.

A pill would obviate the toxic effects of prolonged hyperketonemia but
may still be associated with increased CV risk through PPAR gamma
agonist activity.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
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Hey Chung-turd, how's work these days? Employed yet?

TC said:

On Jun 5, 2:07 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quoted message said:

TC said:

On Jun 5, 12:53 pm, Diarmid <[email hidden]> wrote:
>http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-06/cp-lde053007.php

Quoted message said:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I love it when advanced degree pinheads examine a ***diet*** related
issue like obesity and the goal of their research is not to resolve
the diet issue but to find a drug.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

*** quote
"What's really exciting is that mice with excess FGF21-even when they
are fed-look like they are fasted," Kliewer said. "It's startling that
you can give one hormone and flip the whole metabolic profile."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"We think these findings would increase the desirability of a drug
that [might work through this mechanism] to increase fat oxidation in
the liver," added Maratos-Flier,....
*** unquote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I would be excited if I could make million$ by pushing another drug
down peoples throats.

Quoted message said:

Would be concerned about the PPAR gamma activation by such a drug.
Afterall, Avandia is a PPAR gamma agonist.

Quoted message said:

There is also the issue of "torpor" which the investigators have
described as being part of low-carbing and fasting.

Quoted message said:

Just as fasting is an ill-advised method of losing weight, the issues
of "torpor" and lipid-peroxidation effects of hyperketonemia make low-
carbing also ill advised.

Quoted message said:

A pill would obviate the toxic effects of prolonged hyperketonemia but
may still be associated with increased CV risk through PPAR gamma
agonist activity.

Quoted message said:

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Quoted message said:

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Quoted message said:

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

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with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth-Hide quoted text -

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Hey Chung-turd, how's work these days? Employed yet?

He soon will be:

http://www.oleo.tv/lyrics/sam-cooke/chain-gang/

neighbor TC wrote (edited for profanity):

Quoted message said:

Andrew said:

neighbor TC said:

On Jun 5, 12:53 pm, Diarmid <[email hidden]> wrote:
>http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-06/cp-lde053007.php

<snip>

Quoted message said:

I love it when advanced degree pinheads examine a ***diet*** related
issue like obesity and the goal of their research is not to resolve
the diet issue but to find a drug.

Quoted message said:

*** quote
"What's really exciting is that mice with excess FGF21-even when they
are fed-look like they are fasted," Kliewer said. "It's startling that
you can give one hormone and flip the whole metabolic profile."

Quoted message said:

"We think these findings would increase the desirability of a drug
that [might work through this mechanism] to increase fat oxidation in
the liver," added Maratos-Flier,....
*** unquote

Quoted message said:

I would be excited if I could make million$ by pushing another drug
down peoples throats.

Would be concerned about the PPAR gamma activation by such a drug.
Afterall, Avandia is a PPAR gamma agonist.

There is also the issue of "torpor" which the investigators have
described as being part of low-carbing and fasting.

Just as fasting is an ill-advised method of losing weight, the issues
of "torpor" and lipid-peroxidation effects of hyperketonemia make low-
carbing also ill advised.

A pill would obviate the toxic effects of prolonged hyperketonemia but
may still be associated with increased CV risk through PPAR gamma
agonist activity.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Hey neighbor, how's work these days?

Blessed.

Quoted message said:

Employed yet?

All the time.

Laus Deo ! ! !

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Andrew B. Chung said:

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Gee, thanks! Just what I want to be; hungrier! That'll really help
me lose weight. NOT!

Brindal

neighbor Brindal said:

Andrew said:

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Gee, thanks!

Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.

Quoted message said:

Just what I want to be; hungrier!

You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.

Quoted message said:

That'll really help me lose weight.

Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
false belief that "hunger is bad:"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?

Quoted message said:

NOT!

Yes.

Suggested reading:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

May reading this help you to lose weight while you become hungrier as
you become healthier.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

In article 'Andrew B. Chung said:

neighbor Brindal said:

Andrew said:

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Gee, thanks!

Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.

Quoted message said:

Just what I want to be; hungrier!

You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.

Quoted message said:

That'll really help me lose weight.

Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
false belief that "hunger is bad:"

Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
is pleasurable.

Just as overweight pets do not overeat because they harbor
"false beliefs"; they overeat because they enjoy eating.

As they, and we, were meant to.

-- cary

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew said:

neighbor Brindal said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Gee, thanks!

Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.

Quoted message said:

Just what I want to be; hungrier!

You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.

Quoted message said:

That'll really help me lose weight.

Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
false belief that "hunger is bad:"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?

Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
is pleasurable.

Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
as is fear.

The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
physical feeling.

Quoted message said:

Just as overweight pets do not overeat because they harbor
"false beliefs"; they overeat because they enjoy eating.

Actually, it logically follows from the observation that overweight
folks tend to have overweight pets that they learn from their owners
the false belief that "hunger is bad."

Quoted message said:

As they, and we, were meant to.

That would be satan's plan and not GOD's.

May HE bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

In article 'Andrew B. Chung said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew said:

neighbor Brindal wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
>
> Gee, thanks!

Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.

> Just what I want to be; hungrier!

You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.

> That'll really help me lose weight.

Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
false belief that "hunger is bad:"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?

Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
is pleasurable.

Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
as is fear.

The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
physical feeling.

Don't be silly. Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --
I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
it. And on the very few occasions I do, it's a happy
feeling, because of the pleasurable anticipation it
creates.

I eat -- and I overeat -- because I utterly enjoy it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Just as overweight pets do not overeat because they harbor
"false beliefs"; they overeat because they enjoy eating.

Actually, it logically follows from the observation that overweight
folks tend to have overweight pets that they learn from their owners
the false belief that "hunger is bad."

Just when I thought you couldn't be any sillier, you surprise me
yet once again. Pets picking up "false beliefs" from their
owners....that's pretty much on a par with psychic therapists
for your pooch.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As they, and we, were meant to.

Actually, that would be evolution's "plan" to make sure that we
take in sufficient energy and materieals. For most organisms
throughout most of time, too much food is never, ever a problem.

-- cary

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> >
> > Gee, thanks!
>
> Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
>
> > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
>
> You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
>
> > That'll really help me lose weight.
>
> Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> false belief that "hunger is bad:"
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?

Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
is pleasurable.

Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
as is fear.

The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
physical feeling.

Don't be silly.

Not my style.

Quoted message said:

Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --
I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
it.

Then you rarely are blessed by GOD.

This simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than you have
ever been in your life.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

In article 'Andrew B. Chung said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > >
> > > Gee, thanks!
> >
> > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> >
> > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> >
> > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> >
> > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> >
> > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
>
> Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> is pleasurable.

Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
as is fear.

The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
physical feeling.

Don't be silly.

Not my style.

No, it's more of a failing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --
I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
it.

Then you rarely are blessed by GOD.

Me and the great majority of the remaining three hundred million
Americans. Not to mention the rest of the first world countries,
including Canada, Australia, and all of Europe.

Quoted message said:

This simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than you have
ever been in your life.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > > >
> > > > Gee, thanks!
> > >
> > > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> > >
> > > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> > >
> > > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> > >
> > > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> > >
> > > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
> >
> > Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> > is pleasurable.
>
> Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
> as is fear.
>
> The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
> physical feeling.

Don't be silly.

Not my style.

No, it's more of a failing.

You would be the expert here about your own behavior.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --

Untrue.

"Hunger is the best pickle (seasoning)" -- Benjamin Franklin

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
it.

Then you rarely are blessed by GOD.

Me and the great majority of the remaining three hundred million
Americans.

Without the LORD, your belief that your accursed condition is like
that of "the great majority" is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

In article 'Andrew B. Chung said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gee, thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> > > >
> > > > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> > > >
> > > > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> > > >
> > > > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> > > >
> > > > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > > > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
> > >
> > > Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> > > is pleasurable.
> >
> > Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
> > as is fear.
> >
> > The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
> > physical feeling.
>
> Don't be silly.

Not my style.

No, it's more of a failing.

You would be the expert here about your own behavior.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
> throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --

Untrue.

Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
of those in the developed countries.

Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
of all food grown for humans is wasted.

-- http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm

I don't know anyone who "fears hunger".

Perhaps you grew up somewhere else?

Quoted message said:

"Hunger is the best pickle (seasoning)" -- Benjamin Franklin

Absolutely true. Hunger increases the pleasure in eating.
As I previously observed.

-- cary

(Cary Kittrell) said:

In article 'Andrew B. Chung said:

neighbor Brindal said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Gee, thanks!

Quoted message said:

Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Just what I want to be; hungrier!

Quoted message said:

You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That'll really help me lose weight.

Quoted message said:

Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
false belief that "hunger is bad:"

Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
is pleasurable.

I have to disagree. That implies that overeating is a choice. I think
we need to put some blame on the stuff they pass off as food. Highly
processed and sufar and hfcs added grains can be identified as a cause
of overeating that is completely independent of a persons choice.

We have been taught by the authorities that the culprit is fat and
that we ought to eat low-calorie carbs instead. Unfortunately, fats
are not the culprit, and the absence of healthy animal fats in the
diet with an overabundance of refined carbs leads to lack of satiation
and repeated (every 2 hours) over consumption of carbs,

For example, you get up in the morning and have a coffee laced with a
sweet flavoring agent and a bagel. At coffee-time you are starving so
you pound back a donut with your sweetened beverage, at lunch you eat
a low-fat high-carb sandwich and a sweetened beverage. At teh
afternoon coffe break, you are starving so you scarf down a chocolate
bar of a piece of cake someone left in the coffee room. For supper you
have low-fat pasta. Then in the evening you watch a movie and eat low-
fat baked crackers. The result is compulsive overeating and obesity.
And the whole time you followed the recomendations to eat less fat and
more carbs.

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew said:

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gee, thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> > > > >
> > > > > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > > > > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
> > > >
> > > > Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> > > > is pleasurable.
> > >
> > > Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
> > > as is fear.
> > >
> > > The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
> > > physical feeling.
> >
> > Don't be silly.
>
> Not my style.

No, it's more of a failing.

You would be the expert here about your own behavior.

Quoted message said:

> > Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
> > throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --

Untrue.

Entirely true.

No.

"Hunger is the best pickle (seasoning)." -- Benjamin Franklin

Quoted message said:

For the first time in history, much of the
world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
of those in the developed countries.

Incorrect.

Hunger is experienced by healthy people who are staying healthy by
eating balanced nutritious meals. Transient loss of hunger does occur
when healthy people overeat.

Those who chronically do not experience hunger while eating balanced
nutritious meals are suffering from anorexia.

The latter symptom is an indication of poor health and does occur in
people who are dying from AIDS, cancer, starvation, etc.

Truth is simple.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:46 -0400, Cary Kittrell
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
of those in the developed countries.

Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
of all food grown for humans is wasted.
--
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm

Come on. Who throws away 100 pounds of food per year? That statistic is
simply wrong. In that article, there is no source for this information.
They could've simply made it up.

--
Bob in CT

"Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:46 -0400, Cary Kittrell
<[email hidden]> wrote:

[cut]

Quoted message said:

Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
of those in the developed countries.

Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
of all food grown for humans is wasted.
--
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm

Come on. Who throws away 100 pounds of food per year? That statistic is
simply wrong. In that article, there is no source for this information.
They could've simply made it up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6456987.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/costingtheearth_20050414.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4440000/newsid_4444600/4444665.stm

L.

Bob in CT said:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:46 -0400, Cary Kittrell

<[email hidden]> wrote:

[cut]

Quoted message said:

Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
of those in the developed countries.

Quoted message said:

Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
of all food grown for humans is wasted.
--
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm

Come on. Who throws away 100 pounds of food per year? That statistic is
simply wrong. In that article, there is no source for this information.
They could've simply made it up.

--
Bob in CT

100 lbs may be an underestimate. How much perfectly good food is
discarded in supermarket dumpsters simply because it's a day past
sell-by?

In article 'Professor Geoffrey Loftus said:

Bob in CT said:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:46 -0400, Cary Kittrell

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Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
of those in the developed countries.

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Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
of all food grown for humans is wasted.
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http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm

Come on. Who throws away 100 pounds of food per year? That statistic is
simply wrong. In that article, there is no source for this information.
They could've simply made it up.

--
Bob in CT

100 lbs may be an underestimate. How much perfectly good food is
discarded in supermarket dumpsters simply because it's a day past
sell-by?

And restaurants, schools, caterers...

-- cary

(Cary Kittrell) said:

In article 'Professor Geoffrey Loftus said:

Bob in CT said:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:46 -0400, Cary Kittrell

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> Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
> world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
> away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
> of those in the developed countries.

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> Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
> of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
> of all food grown for humans is wasted.
> --
>http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm

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Come on. Who throws away 100 pounds of food per year? That statistic is
simply wrong. In that article, there is no source for this information.
They could've simply made it up.

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--
Bob in CT

Quoted message said:

100 lbs may be an underestimate. How much perfectly good food is
discarded in supermarket dumpsters simply because it's a day past
sell-by?

And restaurants, schools, caterers...

-- cary

How many bushels of broccoli from one average American grade school
alone? How many pecks of Brussels sprouts? How many kilos
of kale? How many #10 institutional-size cans of succotash?
Astronomical quantities, I'd wager. Depressing to contemplate.
The Jolly Green Giant would hang himself from despair.