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  1. If you use the standard that a few outstanding practical recipes justify
    getting a cookbook, the Gourmet Cookbook (1950) abundantly delivers.
    (Supplements followed its publication -- I have a small collection -- and
    lately a new book under its venerable title. But this is the original
    Gourmet. Quirky, ubiquitous, and at last count the dominant mention under
    its name in Internet archives.) Recipes for herb-stuffed broilers, English
    herb cheese, various desserts and mushroom dishes demonstrate why this is
    so.

    Elsewhere I've often recommended an appetizing underground classic: Louis
    Pullig de Gouy's Sandwich Manual for Professionals (1939), more readily
    available in the 1980s reprint, The Ultimate Sandwich Book (Philadelphia:
    Running Press, 1982, ISBN 0894711636 or 0894711644). Variations on the
    hamburger that are now forgotten (or "discovered"😉. 63 pages on "Club, or
    Three-Decker" sandwich recipes alone, several per page. De Gouy emphasized
    that the person Sandwich himself (18th-century playboy earl) is important
    for naming, not inventing, it. De Gouy cited Greek, Roman, and Babylonian
    taste for "a wedge of meat between two slabs of bread" but traced the modern
    sandwich to a popularization by the teacher Rabbi Prince Hillel after 70 BC
    with residue in symbolic Passover custom (unleavened bread with bitter herbs
    and haroseth, chopped nuts and apple). "This is to prove that sandwiches are
    as old as bread and cheese, and Romans and Danes and Saxons and Normans must
    have eaten them from one end of England to another." (That's highly
    abridged in the 1982 reprint.) Despite these publications, people continue
    eagerly to mix up the inventing of sandwiches with the naming. (With
    renewed vigor today via Internet, Wikipedia, etc.)

    Marcella Hazan's two books that introduced much of US to northern Italian
    cooking also indirectly helped spur the original Internet food forum 25
    years ago. Though participants didn't dwell on that connection, they did
    cite Marcella's books and "The Romagnolis' Table," whose durable pragmatic
    pasta ideas I still use.
    http://tinyurl.com/ynq28s

    Kenneth Lo, expatriate Chinese writer, teacher, and cook, is credited as a
    mentor by some US Chinese-émigré chefs. He wrote popular English-language
    cookbooks in the 1970s including Chinese Regional Cooking (ISBN 0394738705,
    "used and new from $1.55" recently on amazon) and Chinese Cooking on Next to
    Nothing. I posted about the first title to rec.food.cooking in 1988 (some
    people have copies of the posting but it's not currently in public
    archives). Lo, writing mostly in England, owned and partly translated the
    11-volume 1963 edition of the national cookbook (Famous Dishes of China,
    Peking: Ministry of Commerce Foods and Drinks Management Department).
    Eloquent evocations of China itself, attention to underlying principles and
    folk recipes, condemnation of shortcuts like MSG (Lo was hardly the only
    Chinese chef to disparage MSG). I have several other titles. For some
    reason, some later and British editions have a different tone, and I spot
    also a different view of Lo among some British readers -- would like to
    understand this story better sometime.

    In the late 1940s, many mainstream US cookbooks seemed bent on eradicating
    savor and subtlety (in favor of canned soups and green food coloring and
    "Thousand Island" salad dressing [1]). The 1943 Joy of Cooking (already a
    "brand," remote from the original book) even demonstrated that it was
    possible to season a cookbook full of savory dishes with exactly salt,
    pepper, and paprika. Into this scene, Morrison Wood brought wine and garlic
    and spices and life, remaining a minor mainstream classic for 30 years (plus
    supplements and spin-offs). More, posted 1992:
    http://tinyurl.com/49xl6

    That's a few examples. I'd like to hear of other durable cookbooks.

    --
    [1] "Thousand Island" is a mayonnaise sauce appearing in US cookbooks by
    1948 (de Gouy's Gold Cook Book for example, revised edition; Wood lists it
    also), commonly used on lettuce salads. In original recipes it's a very
    mild "Russian" dressing with further mayonnaise and whipped cream. As
    discussed periodically, it sometimes appears on Reuben Sandwiches, though
    some prefer the more robust classic "Russian Dressing." (If the ages of
    humankind are accountable Stone, Bronze, Iron, etc., then the ages of the US
    can be further subdivided. The last half of the 20th Century was the Age of
    Mayonnaise.)

  2. Max Hauser said:

    Kenneth Lo, expatriate Chinese writer, teacher, and cook, is credited as a
    mentor by some US Chinese-émigré chefs. He wrote popular English-language
    cookbooks in the 1970s including Chinese Regional Cooking (ISBN 0394738705,
    "used and new from $1.55" recently on amazon) and Chinese Cooking on Next to
    Nothing.

    Kenneth Lo was enormously influential in bringing real Chinese food to
    England, more, I think, by operating a restaurant serving such food than
    by any of his books. I remember eating at his Ken Lo's Memories of
    China in Belgravia, in the late '70s - the food was great, some of the
    best I have ever had, before or since. I went there again many years
    later, when Lo was no longer there, and the food was no longer anything
    special.

    Quoted message said:

    That's a few examples. I'd like to hear of other durable cookbooks.

    I assume you are talking about books published in English and known in
    the USA. If so, any Elizabeth David's books, Edouard de Pomiane's
    books, Richard Olney's books, _The Cuisine of Hungary_ by George Lang,
    _La Cuisine du Marché_ by Paul Bocuse, _Il Talismano della Felicità_
    (_The Talisman Italian Cookbook_) and _ Italian Regional Cooking_ by Ada
    Boni. Also, reluctantly, I would mention The Great Italian Cookbook,
    compiled by the Italian Academy of Cookery. It is extremely sloppily
    translated and edited, leaving out ingredients and even whole recipes,
    and sometimes mangling instructions. I prefer the original Italian
    edition (Cucina Italiana, published by Arnoldo Mondadori), whenever I
    can get hold of it, or the very good German translation (Delphin
    Verlag).

    Victor

  3. Max Hauser said:

    If you use the standard that a few outstanding practical recipes justify
    getting a cookbook, the Gourmet Cookbook (1950) abundantly delivers.
    (Supplements followed its publication -- I have a small collection -- and
    lately a new book under its venerable title. But this is the original
    Gourmet. Quirky, ubiquitous, and at last count the dominant mention under
    its name in Internet archives.) Recipes for herb-stuffed broilers, English
    herb cheese, various desserts and mushroom dishes demonstrate why this is
    so.

    There are lots of worthwhile cookbooks by that standard. One by DeGouy
    is "The Soup Book" (Dover ISBN 0-486-22998-X). "Miss Leslie's Directions
    for Cookery" you already know about and have in its Dover reprint.
    Another of my oddities is "Mrs Rasmussen's Book of One-Arm Cookery" by
    Mary Laswell with decorations by George Price (Houghton Mifflin, 1946).
    There are some good ideas in it that were almost revolutionary at the
    time and are still fresh -- O'Brien au Gratin Potatoes, Huacomole,
    Huevos Rancheros, "Mrs Rasmussen's Uncooked Tomato Relish" (called salsa
    nowadays), to name a few. I learned from her to make macaroni and cheese
    with Edam and dry mustard. I would never have thought if that on my own.

    Jerry
    --
    Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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  4. Jerry Avins said:

    Max Hauser wrote:

    ...

    Quoted message said:

    That's a few examples. I'd like to hear of other durable cookbooks.

    There are lots of Chinese cookbooks, even one by Craig Claiborne. Two
    that I have are are by Fu Pei Mei* ("Chinese Cookbook" in three volumes
    with Taiwanese publication data that I can't read) and "Secrets of
    Chinese Cooking by Tsuifeng and Hsiangsu Lin, Lin Yutang' wife and
    daughter; Prentice-Hall, 1960.

    Jerry
    _________________________________
    * She had a Taiwanese TV cooking show ala Julia Child here.
    --
    Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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  5. "Victor Sack" <[email hidden]> in
    news:[email hidden] :

    Quoted message said:
    Max Hauser said:

    That's a few examples. I'd like to hear of other durable cookbooks.

    I assume you are talking about books published in English and known in the
    USA.

    Not necessarily, though I did limit my own list that way. (I have some
    shelves of cookbooks from other countries and in other languages than
    English, and have mentioned a few of them in postings, especially on the
    wine newsgroup alt.food.wine where the topics came up. Some such books are
    hard even to order from the US even though classics and best-sellers from
    other countries are not.*)

    Thanks for the suggestions, Victor. I have a few that you cited, but not
    the Italian sources, which are interesting.

    I remain curious about diversity of Kenneth Lo's image in his different
    books (I have five, incl. The Encyclopedia of Chinese Cooking) and in
    British remarks I've seen, vs. reported esteem as mentor among successful US
    Chinese-émigré chefs (at least one of whom, Martin Yan, is nationally
    known).

    =Max

    *E.g. amazon.com never even ISBN-indexed Christoph Wagner's 1995 fast-food
    history (Frankfurt: Campus Verlag, ISBN 3593353466), a timely and
    fashionable topic in food circles. (Even when I Googled "ISBN 3593353466"
    today there were only three hits, and the first two were written by me.) I
    knew the author as something of a food scholar, and editor of the Austrian
    _Gault-Millau_ magazine in Vienna, where that book, like many others in many
    languages, was readily available. (Not a cookbook, but it illustrates the
    problem.)

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Max Hauser said:

    If you use the standard that a few outstanding practical recipes justify
    getting a cookbook, the Gourmet Cookbook (1950) abundantly delivers.

    --snip--

    Quoted message said:

    That's a few examples. I'd like to hear of other durable cookbooks.

    "Italian Regional Cooking" by Ada Boni.

    Isaac

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