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Re: Scramling in the Beacons

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  1. AJH said:
    Quoted message said:

    Was I talking about you? Is your name Simon? ;-)

    No but the post achieved 4 objects:

    It was relevant to your post as I had a similar experience

    Maybe falling off Threecliffs is more common than I thought! Anyone else
    here fallen off it?

    Quoted message said:

    It caught your attention

    It got the topic back to the beacons

    It gave me some good information, thanks ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    The best route, IMO, starts from Cwm Gwdi in the north...

    This is similar to the route someone on this group, probably you,
    suggested when I first enquired some years back and was a good choice,
    if a little short at just over 3 hrs. I started at cwmcynwyn,

    Can you park there?

    Quoted message said:

    up bryn
    teg, Cribyn to Pen-y-fan to Corn Du then back down past the memorial
    and to the farmhouse. The long walk back by road spoiled it a bit.

    Ugh! I hate road walking. I wouldn't have done it that way.

    When you descend from Llyn Cwm Llwch, keep to the east side of the river.
    It's not shown on the map, but there's a path that skirts the farmland,
    contouring around the base of Cefn Cwm Llwch, Twyn y Dyfnant and Twyn
    Cil-rhew, which takes you all the way back to Cwm Gwdi. From there, continue
    contouring around the base of Allt Ddu back up into the Cwm Sere valley
    (part of that path is shown). Once past the forest you can cross the river
    at roughly 380m and contour back to Cwmcynwyn above the farmland (although I
    haven't done that last bit so I don't know if there's a path there). This
    would have kept your walk entirely off road.

    Alternatively, you could have simply climbed up and over Cefn Cwm Llwch from
    the lake, it's quite gentle if you go up it diagonally, but that would
    shorten the walk even more of course. An even shorter version would be to
    backtrack from Corn Du to Pen y Fan and go straight down the ridge.

    If you want to lengthen it you could start by ascending Cefn Cyff instead of
    Bryn Teg and adding Fan y Big into the summit list. You could even follow
    the same principle of contouring and add Bryn and Waun Rydd into the
    equation. I haven't explored the valleys and ridges around Cefn Cyff and
    Bryn though, so I can't comment on those from personal experience.

    Quoted message said:

    If my two companions can make it to Pen Y Fan from Storey Arms then I
    may well walk off via your route and let them pick me up at the other
    end.

    Nice if you can arrange that. Which other end? Caerfanell? Talybont?
    Pencelli? You could make a really nice long walk out of it if you want.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk

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    Paul Saunders said:
    Quoted message said:

    This is similar to the route someone on this group, probably you,
    suggested when I first enquired some years back and was a good choice,
    if a little short at just over 3 hrs. I started at cwmcynwyn,

    Can you park there?

    No there's only room to turn around. My wife and then 80 year old
    mother were with me, so they dropped me and went to the old army camp
    for a stroll.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    up bryn
    teg, Cribyn to Pen-y-fan to Corn Du then back down past the memorial
    and to the farmhouse. The long walk back by road spoiled it a bit.

    Ugh! I hate road walking. I wouldn't have done it that way.

    I agree

    <snipped some route ideas, thanks again>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If my two companions can make it to Pen Y Fan from Storey Arms then I
    may well walk off via your route and let them pick me up at the other
    end.

    Nice if you can arrange that. Which other end? Caerfanell? Talybont?
    Pencelli? You could make a really nice long walk out of it if you want.

    I'll study the map and your ideas and see how it fits in with the pub
    we'll be staying at.

    AJH

  3. Paul Saunders said:

    When you descend from Llyn Cwm Llwch, keep to the east side of the river.
    It's not shown on the map, but there's a path that skirts the farmland,
    contouring around the base of Cefn Cwm Llwch, Twyn y Dyfnant and Twyn
    Cil-rhew, which takes you all the way back to Cwm Gwdi. From there, continue

    Where does that split off the main path into Cwm Llwch? Or do you simply
    stay east of the stream where it leaves the lake?

    Quoted message said:

    If you want to lengthen it you could start by ascending Cefn Cyff instead of
    Bryn Teg and adding Fan y Big into the summit list. You could even follow
    the same principle of contouring and add Bryn and Waun Rydd into the
    equation. I haven't explored the valleys and ridges around Cefn Cyff and
    Bryn though, so I can't comment on those from personal experience.

    Waun Rydd and Twyn Du are worthwhile: it feels like the Beacons, just without
    the crowds... The foot of Twyn Du is covered in a bracken jungle. Aber and
    the Talybont reservoir dam are as good pick-up points as any if you have a
    car at either end.
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

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