In concept this is remarkably like a place near Bourg St.Maurice except that that is constructed on a steep hillside in a forest and you have to do all your safety yourself (find an orange cable, clip on your two orange carabiners on cowtails; find a blue cable, clip on your blue pulley and then the orange crabs behind; never take both crabs off at once). You'd never get it past the safety regs here.
In concept this is remarkably like a place near Bourg St.Maurice except that that is constructed on a steep hillside in a forest and you have to do all your safety yourself <snip> You'd never get it past the safety
regs here.
There's nothing in any regulations to prevent it here, its basically just indoor via ferrata. I guess what may cause a problem is getting insurance (with economically feasible premiums).
It would mean you'd have to require the customers either to be 'competent' or keep them under close supervision though. This is only the same as for the climbing, but unlike the climbing experienced people aren't the target market.
In concept this is remarkably like a place near Bourg St.Maurice except that that is constructed on a steep hillside in a forest and you have to do all your safety yourself <snip> You'd never get it past the safety
regs here.
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There's nothing in any regulations to prevent it here, its basically just indoor via ferrata. I guess what may cause a problem is getting insurance (with economically feasible premiums).
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It would mean you'd have to require the customers either to be 'competent' or keep them under close supervision though. This is only the same as for the climbing, but unlike the climbing experienced people aren't the target market.
In the EICA Ratho Aerial Assault (previously Skyride) the harnesses are secured to the safety trolleys by lockable carabiners done up with a spanner. It's hard to imagine how someone could become detached & fall. As to getting into difficulties, there's a parallel free track for use by staff on which staff can move very rapidly to someone in trouble. Don't know if it's a requirement, but there tend to be staff close at hand on the track if there's anyone a bit wobbly going round it. From the viewpoint of an amateur student of rope access technology the whole thing looks to be of the highest professional standards.
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In concept this is remarkably like a place near Bourg St.Maurice except that that is constructed on a steep hillside in a forest and you have to do all your safety yourself <snip> You'd never get it past the safety
regs here.
There's nothing in any regulations to prevent it here, its basically just indoor via ferrata. I guess what may cause a problem is getting insurance (with economically feasible premiums).
Sorry, I was lumping insurance and safety together. The BStM one is outdoors and more like an adventure playground 30 feet up in the trees.
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It would mean you'd have to require the customers either to be 'competent' or keep them under close supervision though. This is only the same as for the climbing, but unlike the climbing experienced people aren't the target market.
Indeed. The BStM staff are very good at equipping and briefing you and then they follow their group round on the ground. I have seen them climbing up to rescue people who get into difficulties. The setup does cater for complete novices (the course gets harder and higher as you go, with bale-out points for the less able).
Indeed. The BStM staff are very good at equipping and briefing you and then they follow their group round on the ground. I have seen them climbing up to rescue people who get into difficulties. The setup does cater for complete novices (the course gets harder and higher as you go, with bale-out points for the less able).
From the viewpoint of an amateur student of rope access technology the whole thing looks to be of the highest professional standards.
I wasn't suggesting otherwise for a moment. I was commenting on the Bourg St.Maurice installation Sam mentioned, which does depend on a degree of competence from the user. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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As to getting into difficulties, there's a parallel free track for use by staff on which staff can move very rapidly to someone in trouble.
Cool, I wondered what the arrangements were for rescue. (Which in this case I guess covers a spectrum from a full-on medical emergency down to a bit of a gentle chivvy and some reassurance.)
Indeed. The BStM staff are very good at equipping and briefing you and then they follow their group round on the ground. I have seen them climbing up to rescue people who get into difficulties. The setup does cater for complete novices (the course gets harder and higher as you go, with bale-out points for the less able).
That sounds really good. :o)
Actually it's brilliant. The climbing centre is at a place called Seez just a few km up the valley from Bourg, but I can't remember its actual name and can't find it on the web. Sorry.
