Memory Map and GPX

Quoted message said:

Seems very confusing. I'd have thought it would be much better to
avoid such ambiguity if Memory-Map consistently displayed the data
actually in the GPX file, i.e UTC (GMT). But maybe I'm missing
something?

Don't have Memory Map but it looks like it only reads system clock. A fix
(but admitedly not a good one) is to disable the auto adjust to local time
in system clock whilst using Multimap in BST. Double click on time bottom
right in toolbar. Choose time zone tab - untixk automatically adjust cloct
for daylight saving changes. Don't forget to put it back when finished :-)

Roger

Roger G4OWG said:

Quoted message said:

Seems very confusing. I'd have thought it would be much better to
avoid such ambiguity if Memory-Map consistently displayed the data
actually in the GPX file, i.e UTC (GMT). But maybe I'm missing
something?

Don't have Memory Map but it looks like it only reads system clock. A fix
(but admitedly not a good one) is to disable the auto adjust to local time
in system clock whilst using Multimap in BST. Double click on time bottom
right in toolbar. Choose time zone tab - untixk automatically adjust cloct
for daylight saving changes. Don't forget to put it back when finished :-)

Roger

Thanks Roger. But sooner or later I know I *would* forget to change it
back! And anyway, I make frequent use of that clock in the tray. So
I'll live with the Memory-Map inconsistency, I guess. Maybe add a text
marker to the map (and remember to display it - it's not automatic)
showing the track's actual start time in local time.

Do other map programs like Tracklog, Anquet, etc, do the same with GPX
files?

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

Terry Pinnell said:

Roger G4OWG said:

Quoted message said:

Seems very confusing. I'd have thought it would be much better to
avoid such ambiguity if Memory-Map consistently displayed the data
actually in the GPX file, i.e UTC (GMT). But maybe I'm missing
something?

Don't have Memory Map but it looks like it only reads system clock. A fix
(but admitedly not a good one) is to disable the auto adjust to local time
in system clock whilst using Multimap in BST. Double click on time bottom
right in toolbar. Choose time zone tab - untixk automatically adjust cloct
for daylight saving changes. Don't forget to put it back when finished :-)

Roger

Thanks Roger. But sooner or later I know I *would* forget to change it
back! And anyway, I make frequent use of that clock in the tray. So
I'll live with the Memory-Map inconsistency, I guess. Maybe add a text
marker to the map (and remember to display it - it's not automatic)
showing the track's actual start time in local time.

Do other map programs like Tracklog, Anquet, etc, do the same with GPX
files?

Does your GPS have the facility (60CSX does) to make marks? If so that
is what I do when I take a photo, I can then cross check that mark and
the photo against the time, then make a simple chart cross referencing
photos and marks.

Broadback said:

Terry Pinnell said:

Roger G4OWG said:

> Seems very confusing. I'd have thought it would be much better to
> avoid such ambiguity if Memory-Map consistently displayed the data
> actually in the GPX file, i.e UTC (GMT). But maybe I'm missing
> something?
Don't have Memory Map but it looks like it only reads system clock. A fix
(but admitedly not a good one) is to disable the auto adjust to local time
in system clock whilst using Multimap in BST. Double click on time bottom
right in toolbar. Choose time zone tab - untixk automatically adjust cloct
for daylight saving changes. Don't forget to put it back when finished :-)

Roger

Thanks Roger. But sooner or later I know I *would* forget to change it
back! And anyway, I make frequent use of that clock in the tray. So
I'll live with the Memory-Map inconsistency, I guess. Maybe add a text
marker to the map (and remember to display it - it's not automatic)
showing the track's actual start time in local time.

Do other map programs like Tracklog, Anquet, etc, do the same with GPX
files?

Does your GPS have the facility (60CSX does) to make marks? If so that
is what I do when I take a photo, I can then cross check that mark and
the photo against the time, then make a simple chart cross referencing
photos and marks.

Yes, I can do that, although I normally just rely on the recorded
track, which I plot after all walk. But as mentioned, I'm now into
geo-tagging, i.e. automatically adding lat/lon to my photos' EXIF
data.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

Terry Pinnell said:

Yes, I can do that, although I normally just rely on the recorded
track, which I plot after all walk. But as mentioned, I'm now into
geo-tagging, i.e. automatically adding lat/lon to my photos' EXIF
data.

How do you do that automatically? Have you got some software to do it?

Paul
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Paul Saunders said:

Terry Pinnell said:

Yes, I can do that, although I normally just rely on the recorded
track, which I plot after all walk. But as mentioned, I'm now into
geo-tagging, i.e. automatically adding lat/lon to my photos' EXIF
data.

How do you do that automatically? Have you got some software to do it?

Yes, I discovered a brilliant program last week called gpicsync,
written by Francois Schnell. See here:
http://groups.google.com/group/gpicsync

I installed 0.98 less than a week ago, and this morning ran version
1.02!

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

Terry Pinnell said:

Broadback <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Terry Pinnell said:

"Roger G4OWG" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>> Seems very confusing. I'd have thought it would be much better to
>> avoid such ambiguity if Memory-Map consistently displayed the data
>> actually in the GPX file, i.e UTC (GMT). But maybe I'm missing
>> something?
> Don't have Memory Map but it looks like it only reads system clock. A fix
> (but admitedly not a good one) is to disable the auto adjust to local time
> in system clock whilst using Multimap in BST. Double click on time bottom
> right in toolbar. Choose time zone tab - untixk automatically adjust cloct
> for daylight saving changes. Don't forget to put it back when finished :-)
>
> Roger

Thanks Roger. But sooner or later I know I *would* forget to change it
back! And anyway, I make frequent use of that clock in the tray. So
I'll live with the Memory-Map inconsistency, I guess. Maybe add a text
marker to the map (and remember to display it - it's not automatic)
showing the track's actual start time in local time.

Do other map programs like Tracklog, Anquet, etc, do the same with GPX
files?

Does your GPS have the facility (60CSX does) to make marks? If so that
is what I do when I take a photo, I can then cross check that mark and
the photo against the time, then make a simple chart cross referencing
photos and marks.

Quoted message said:

Yes, I can do that, although I normally just rely on the recorded
track, which I plot after all walk. But as mentioned, I'm now into
geo-tagging, i.e. automatically adding lat/lon to my photos' EXIF
data.

Really you need two -- one for where the camera was, the other for
where the subject of the picture is. Otherwise photographing one
mountain from the top of another gets a bit confusing. I'd also prefer
the option to use local mapping grids, such as OS in the UK, rather
than Lat Long.

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Terry Pinnell said:

Paul Saunders said:

Terry Pinnell said:

Yes, I can do that, although I normally just rely on the recorded
track, which I plot after all walk. But as mentioned, I'm now into
geo-tagging, i.e. automatically adding lat/lon to my photos' EXIF
data.

How do you do that automatically? Have you got some software to do it?

Yes, I discovered a brilliant program last week called gpicsync,
written by Francois Schnell. See here:
http://groups.google.com/group/gpicsync

I installed 0.98 less than a week ago, and this morning ran version
1.02!

Im excited by the prospect of installing this when I get back from
Alnwick in one week but I believe my excitment shall be short lived.
On my etrex legend it saves times in the tracklog data which is ok for
1 walk but when I go to alnwick Ill be saving each track as I go along
and Ive noticed there isn't any time data in the saved tracks on the
GPS. Can this program be used with the EL on more than one track.
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Gwyn said:

Terry Pinnell said:

Yes, I discovered a brilliant program last week called gpicsync,
written by Francois Schnell. See here:
http://groups.google.com/group/gpicsync

I installed 0.98 less than a week ago, and this morning ran version
1.02!

Im excited by the prospect of installing this when I get back from
Alnwick in one week but I believe my excitment shall be short lived.
On my etrex legend it saves times in the tracklog data which is ok
for 1 walk but when I go to alnwick Ill be saving each track as I
go along and Ive noticed there isn't any time data in the saved
tracks on the GPS. Can this program be used with the EL on more
than one track.

I have been trying this one out for the past few weeks.

http://www.br-software.com/pixgps.html

To get round the track saving problem I save the track but leave the
'live' track running and use this for geomarking any pictures. I am
using a garmin Etrex Legend C. (I still haven't quite got the hang of
it yet though 🙂 )

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Sandy Birrell said:

To get round the track saving problem I save the track but leave the
'live' track running and use this for geomarking any pictures. I am
using a garmin Etrex Legend C. (I still haven't quite got the hang of
it yet though 🙂 )

Thanks for that I will do that and I'll have a go when I come back
next week.
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Gwyn g@ said:

Terry Pinnell said:

Paul Saunders said:

Terry Pinnell wrote:

> Yes, I can do that, although I normally just rely on the recorded
> track, which I plot after all walk. But as mentioned, I'm now into
> geo-tagging, i.e. automatically adding lat/lon to my photos' EXIF
> data.

How do you do that automatically? Have you got some software to do it?

Yes, I discovered a brilliant program last week called gpicsync,
written by Francois Schnell. See here:
http://groups.google.com/group/gpicsync

I installed 0.98 less than a week ago, and this morning ran version
1.02!

Im excited by the prospect of installing this when I get back from
Alnwick in one week but I believe my excitment shall be short lived.
On my etrex legend it saves times in the tracklog data which is ok for
1 walk but when I go to alnwick Ill be saving each track as I go along
and Ive noticed there isn't any time data in the saved tracks on the
GPS. Can this program be used with the EL on more than one track.

I'm not really sure I follow you or Sandy on this. Are you referring
to the issue of the limited amount of trackpoint storage in your GPS
Unit? My Garmin GPS 12 can save only 1024. So on holidays I download
the day's walk each night onto my Pocket PC using the program G7toCE,
save it, and then download those files onto my PC on my return. Those
files are what I've been using to geo-tag my photos with gpicsync (as
well as my usual output, like a printed map of each).

As you'll have seen from the details of gpicsync, its inputs are
- a GPX file of your track. made from your GPS tracklog
- a folder of your photos (assuming they are timestamped).

So I'm not clear how any program, gpicsync or Sandy's recommended
pixgps, can help if you don't have the GPX files for each walk?

Or have I misunderstood your query please?

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

Terry Pinnell said:

I'm not really sure I follow you or Sandy on this. Are you referring
to the issue of the limited amount of trackpoint storage in your GPS
Unit? My Garmin GPS 12 can save only 1024. So on holidays I download
the day's walk each night onto my Pocket PC using the program
G7toCE, save it, and then download those files onto my PC on my
return. Those files are what I've been using to geo-tag my photos
with gpicsync (as well as my usual output, like a printed map of
each).

As you'll have seen from the details of gpicsync, its inputs are
- a GPX file of your track. made from your GPS tracklog
- a folder of your photos (assuming they are timestamped).

So I'm not clear how any program, gpicsync or Sandy's recommended
pixgps, can help if you don't have the GPX files for each walk?

Or have I misunderstood your query please?

When you save a track on the GPS it drops the time stamp, or it does
on my Etrex. If I download this to GPS Utility and convert it to a GPX
file it doesn't geomark the pictures. If I download the live track
from the Etrex and convert it to a GPX file it works fine.

You are obviously downloading the live track to the Pocket PC so when
you use it the time stamp is there and it works with your pictures.

Hope this makes sense as I have only just started playing with these
programs 🙂

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Sandy Birrell said:

Terry Pinnell said:

I'm not really sure I follow you or Sandy on this. Are you referring
to the issue of the limited amount of trackpoint storage in your GPS
Unit? My Garmin GPS 12 can save only 1024. So on holidays I download
the day's walk each night onto my Pocket PC using the program
G7toCE, save it, and then download those files onto my PC on my
return. Those files are what I've been using to geo-tag my photos
with gpicsync (as well as my usual output, like a printed map of
each).

As you'll have seen from the details of gpicsync, its inputs are
- a GPX file of your track. made from your GPS tracklog
- a folder of your photos (assuming they are timestamped).

So I'm not clear how any program, gpicsync or Sandy's recommended
pixgps, can help if you don't have the GPX files for each walk?

Or have I misunderstood your query please?

When you save a track on the GPS it drops the time stamp, or it does
on my Etrex.

Thanks, understood. That's not a facility I have on my GPS 12. Does it
prove useful in practice, despite having no timestamp data?

So, yes, that reinforces my recommendation to download each 'live'
track, e.g. to a PPC or similar. Or, on some GPS models - I haven't
done the research yet - store each track, complete with timestamps, on
an in-built CF or SD card, for later download

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

Terry Pinnell said:

Thanks, understood. That's not a facility I have on my GPS 12. Does
it prove useful in practice, despite having no timestamp data?

It still gives you a track for loading into Map Source, Anquet etc.,
it just doesn't give you any times. Start, stop, average speed etc.

Quoted message said:

So, yes, that reinforces my recommendation to download each 'live'
track, e.g. to a PPC or similar. Or, on some GPS models - I haven't
done the research yet - store each track, complete with timestamps,
on an in-built CF or SD card, for later download

That is why I leave the live track running for the time I am away,
while saving each walk as I do it. The other way is to mark each
picture as a Waypoint which saves a time stamp. I haven't got round to
testing that though to see if it geomarks the pictures.

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