How many miles?

You sure about those figures Jeff? That's 55 km per day every day.

Let's assume you take one day a week off for rest. Then let's say you lived in an area where
you could ride most of the days in a year. You're still going to lose a dozen or more days a
year to weather.

So that's 12 + 52 = 64 or two full months of no riding. That means that you have to average some 65
km per day every riding day.

This is why the only way you can discuss mileage is if you maintain a log of every ride.

I just don't think that there are a lot of people out there that put in 40 miles every time they
climb on a bike and they do it every day.

Tom

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I tried to calculate how many miles I have ridden a rode bike

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school which was when I started getting serious about climbing.

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included everything, races, training rides, trainer at home, etc.

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riding before Avocet and Ciclomaster came out so it's hard to

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count the miles but I came up with a very questionable number. How

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miles? What's your guest? I bet most of the older roadies on RBR

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100k and 200k. Anybody over 200,000 miles lifetime?

I'm not that old (32), but I've been riding for the past 15 years

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only a couple of relatively short breaks. I've always liked riding lots of kilometres, so even in
the early years I was doing 20,000km/yr. The last six years would be close to the 30,000km/yr
mark, so a fairly conservative estimate would be

350,000km/220,000mi.

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That's a hell of a lot of food.

Jeff

Lance Armstrong claims he's done 60,000 miles.

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You sure about those figures Jeff? That's 55 km per day every day.

Let's assume you take one day a week off for rest. Then let's say you lived in an area where you
could ride most of the days in a year. You're still going to lose a dozen or more days a year to
weather.

So that's 12 + 52 = 64 or two full months of no riding. That means that you have to average some
65 km per day every riding day.

This is why the only way you can discuss mileage is if you maintain a log of every ride.

I just don't think that there are a lot of people out there that put in 40 miles every time they
climb on a bike and they do it every day.

Tom

My method is commuting. My current commute is 15 miles each way and I do it about 3 days a week.
Some days I take a longer route home. That plus training rides two nights a week during the summer
and 500 mile weeks when on vacation add up....

I have daily records of the last 7 years and they were all between 9,700 and 10,200 miles. And most
of the 20 years before that I had similar totals.

-Bruce

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I tried to calculate how many miles I have ridden a rode bike since high school which was when I
started getting serious about climbing. This included everything, races, training rides, trainer
at home, etc. I was riding before Avocet and Ciclomaster came out so it's hard to remember and
count the miles but I came up with a very questionable number. How many miles? What's your guest?
I bet most of the older roadies on RBR are

between

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100k and 200k. Anybody over 200,000 miles lifetime?

B-

Me? Not enough for my wishes.

Tom Kunich said:

Our club member Dan Tonelli has close to 300,000 and there is one guy in the US who has well over
1,000,000.

There was some dude featured in a magazine a year or so back, who just toodles all around on a bike.
He's got some mental deficiency so it's about all he does. He gives out worn chainrings to friends.
I thought it was an interesting story, but the math didn't quite add up. To cover the mileage he had
to at the speed he would have been averaging he'd be far older than he is. Odd the magazine editors
didn't figure that out, considering the massive miles that pros put in doing training.

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I bet most of the older roadies on RBR are between 100k and 200k. Anybody over 200,000 miles
lifetime?

B-

I'm sure as hell not, but I'm betting on Mr. Crockett for most

miles.

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You sure about those figures Jeff? That's 55 km per day every day.

I'm positive Tom. 55 km is a rest day. If anything, the estimate was on the low side.

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Let's assume you take one day a week off for rest. Then let's say you lived in an area where you
could ride most of the days in a year. You're still going to lose a dozen or more days a year to
weather.

I don't take a day off/week for rest, but I do ride 45-60 km easy on Monday and Friday. The only
days I don't go out are when I'm feeling like [censored] *and* it's raining hard outside. And because I
spend most of the European winter (Nov-Jan) in sunny Australia, I can ride pretty much every day
of the year.

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So that's 12 + 52 = 64 or two full months of no riding. That means that you have to average some
65 km per day every riding day.

My rest periods are dictated by work (about 15-20 days where I'm physically separated from my bike),
illness/travel (maybe 7 days/yr), and just feeling bad (3 days/yr). So far this year (looking at my
log) I've had 27 days off. That still gives me 338 days of riding, and given that I'm heading for
29,000km this year that works out at 86 km/day on the days that I do ride. My weekly totals
correspond to this, strangely enough.

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This is why the only way you can discuss mileage is if you maintain a log of every ride.

I agree. I do maintain a written log and have done so for at least the past 10 yrs. Before that I
wasn't really riding any less, but I wasn't keeping detailed notes. I rode a lot when at Uni because
there was plenty of time to do so, and I was there for seven and a half years.

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I just don't think that there are a lot of people out there that put in 40 miles every time they
climb on a bike and they do it every day.

I don't think there are either.

Jeff
p.s. Van Petegem estimates that he does close to 50,000(!) km/yr.

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Richard Adams said:

Tom Kunich said:

Our club member Dan Tonelli has close to 300,000 and there is one guy in the US who has well
over 1,000,000.

There was some dude featured in a magazine a year or so back, who just toodles all around on a
bike. He's got some mental deficiency so it's about all he does. He gives out worn chainrings to
friends. I thought it was an interesting story, but the math didn't quite add up. To cover the
mileage he had to at the speed he would have been averaging he'd be far older than he is. Odd the
magazine editors didn't figure that out, considering the massive miles that pros put in doing
training.

That would mean being "journalists". C'mon, you didn't really expect them to actually do THAT
kind of work, did ya?

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"No, but the first of you turns my stomach!"
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remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Jeff Jones said:

I'm not that old (32), but I've been riding for the past 15 years with only a couple of relatively
short breaks. I've always liked riding lots of kilometres, so even in the early years I was doing
20,000km/yr. The last six years would be close to the 30,000km/yr mark, so a fairly conservative
estimate would be 350,000km/220,000mi. That's a hell of a lot of food.

How many frames have you gone through in that period ? (and if you used Bianchi could you have
persuaded them to give you a new frame each time the current one failed)

Jeff Jones said:

p.s. Van Petegem estimates that he does close to 50,000(!) km/yr.

Stay reassured.

Conventional wisdom estimates that all professional racers do between 40 and 50.000 kms a year. A
friend of mine from Castelfranco Veneto, a guy who has no family of his own, no automobile but, yes,
a job has consistently done 30.000 kms a year the last several years. At the age of 52, not bad as a
record. Don't you think?

Sergio Pisa

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1,000,000 miles??? You could probably hit that guys penis with a hammer and he wouldn't know it

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You sure about those figures Jeff? That's 55 km per day every day.

Goddamm Kunich. No wonder you're a Cat 5.

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I'm positive Tom. 55 km is a rest day. If anything, the estimate was on the low side.

Agreed. 35 miles/day is quite low for someone who devotes a good portion of their life's energy to
bike racing. Surely even a significant # of Masters Fatties exceed that.

Howard Kveck said:

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Richard Adams said:

Tom Kunich said:

Our club member Dan Tonelli has close to 300,000 and there is one guy in the US who has well over
1,000,000.

There was some dude featured in a magazine a year or so back, who just toodles all around on a
bike. He's got some mental deficiency so it's about all he does. He gives out worn chainrings to
friends. I thought it was an interesting story, but the math didn't quite add up. To cover the
mileage he had to at the speed he would have been averaging he'd be far older than he is. Odd the
magazine editors didn't figure that out, considering the massive miles that pros put in doing
training.

That would mean being "journalists". C'mon, you didn't really expect them to actually do THAT
kind of work, did ya?

Nope. Checking facts, let alone doing long division probably puts too much of a strain on them (CN
guys aside :-)

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Jeff Jones said:

I'm not that old (32), but I've been riding for the past 15 years with only a couple of
relatively short breaks. I've always liked riding lots of kilometres, so even in the early years
I was doing 20,000km/yr. The last six years would be close to the 30,000km/yr mark, so a fairly
conservative estimate would be 350,000km/220,000mi. That's a hell of a lot of food.

How many frames have you gone through in that period ? (and if you used Bianchi could you have
persuaded them to give you a new frame each time the current one failed)

:-) Let's see, I'm on my ninth frame now, having had one stolen, four
break and four survive (two of which I sold, the other two I've still got). Five of those frames
were steel, and the other four were all aluminium/steel GTs. I took advantage of the lifetime
warranty on the GT which is why I'm still riding one. In fact I ended up with an extra GT frame
(it broke but I got it fixed) because they gave me second hand one while shipping in a
replacement for me.

No complaints about GT customer service from me, although I'm not surprised they went...broke.

Jeff

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A friend of mine from Castelfranco Veneto, a guy who has no family of his own, no automobile but,
yes, a job has consistently done 30.000 kms a year the last several years. At the age of 52, not
bad as a record. Don't you think?

That's excellent - I hope he continues. I regularly ride with a guy in his mid-50s who does a
ridiculous number of miles in summer. I think he broke his one day record by riding 330 km one time
this year. He only does one race a year, a 10 km "local riders" TT along the Schelde, and has won it
against all ages for at least the last two years. Talk about peaking right for an event!

cheers, Jeff

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A friend of mine from Castelfranco Veneto, a guy who has no family of his own, no automobile
but, yes, a job has consistently done 30.000 kms a year the last several years. At the age of
52, not bad as a record. Don't you think?

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That's excellent - I hope he continues.

You wouldn't believe what this guy has been capable of doing. I'll turn this post to his favourite
buddy, in the hope he will tell everyone a few stories about him.

Stay tuned

Sergio

WOW! I never thought about it. I have been riding regularly, racing, training etc... for 17 years.
At an average of 8500 miles a year, that is 144,500 miles. I didn't realize I had ridden that many
miles. That is going through 7 bikes that I can remember. Oh yeah...and 3 mountain bikes too. :-)

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You sure about those figures Jeff? That's 55 km per day every day.

Goddamm Kunich. No wonder you're a Cat 5.

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I'm positive Tom. 55 km is a rest day. If anything, the estimate was on the low side.

Agreed. 35 miles/day is quite low for someone who devotes a good portion

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their life's energy to bike racing. Surely even a significant # of Masters Fatties exceed that.

One of local Cat-1 riders used to loop up from the valley to the mountains where I live on his
weekly training rides which was a 160 mile monster. I used to link up with him on the road. Now
add the other days where he trains in the same week where the miles vary according to his
training, add them all up and that is a hell of a lot of miles weekly. He was very dedicated to
his training rides.

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Lance Armstrong claims he's done 60,000 miles.

Dude, LANCE did about 12,000 miles just in the past five Julys. Assuming the guy has been
riding/racing in at least 12 years, 60K miles is just 5k a year. He must do more than that. All this
extracurricular activity is really taking his mind off the important thing, keeping an accurate
training log so he can impress the guys on the group rides.

I wonder what a typical pro's numbers are for total miles _raced_. Maybe that's what LANCE meant?

I want to make a correction here - I have often seen people talk about Freddy being mentaly
deficent. I've talked to people who know him and the Freddy is just slightly below normal IQ so
there isn't any way you could tell him from 2/3rds of the people who post here.

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Tom Kunich said:

Our club member Dan Tonelli has close to 300,000 and there is one

guy

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in the US who has well over 1,000,000.

There was some dude featured in a magazine a year or so back, who

just

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toodles all around on a bike. He's got some mental deficiency so

it's

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about all he does. He gives out worn chainrings to friends. I

thought

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it was an interesting story, but the math didn't quite add up. To

cover

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the mileage he had to at the speed he would have been averaging he'd

be

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far older than he is. Odd the magazine editors didn't figure that

out,

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considering the massive miles that pros put in doing training.

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>I bet most of the older roadies on RBR are between 100k and 200k. Anybody over 200,000 miles
>lifetime?
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I'm sure as hell not, but I'm betting on Mr. Crockett for most

miles.

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This is why the only way you can discuss mileage is if you

maintain a

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log of every ride.

I agree. I do maintain a written log and have done so for at least

the

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past 10 yrs. Before that I wasn't really riding any less, but I

wasn't

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keeping detailed notes. I rode a lot when at Uni because there was plenty of time to do so, and I
was there for seven and a half years.

I'm really surprised that you have put in so many miles. I ride all I can and yet only get in some
4000-6000 miles a year. But when I retire.......

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in 40 miles every time they climb on a bike and they do it every

day.

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I don't think there are either.

Jeff
p.s. Van Petegem estimates that he does close to 50,000(!) km/yr.

I don't doubt that pros put in mega-miles. I remember Davis Phinney writing in a column when he said
something like "I've improved a lot since I've cut way back on training miles. Now I only ride 600
miles a week."

But these guys most stop riding after their career is over and I think it likely that Peter will
look a lot like Eddy in short order after he retires.