Best camera for videos...

'Panasonic PV-GS320' (http://tinyurl.com/2y62wf)
It's 3CCD which allows for superior color quality. You wont be
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If you want computer advice (here in the unicycle forum), you have to at
least tell us what you've got at the moment.

For a camera I'd recommend something that shoots full-resolution video,
not one that compresses everything onto a memory card. Mini-DV still
seems to be the best media at the moment. Then you have to decide if
you want to go with HD.

Will this Unicon video be just for you, or will you sell copies? After
thirteen Unicons, we still don't have a good, "watchable" Unicon video
that people can buy. In Japan they did some wonderful videos of all the
Freestyle performances, but that's far from watchable, much better for
reference. It takes up a stack of DVDs!

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Thanks guys. John, I dont know off the top of my head. Ill check when I
get home.

So Mini DV is the way forward? I dont think it will need to be HD,
although it would be good, it might be overkill for what I need it
for.

I just want to make a video for the unicon video competition. I will
also make a video of UNICON I think, as the roadtrip should be awesome,
let alone the actual convention 🙂

Could you explain how DV works? How do I get it onto my computer? and
is it easily edited?

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With mini-dv, you get footage onto your computer either through a
firewire cable, or on some of the more modern ones, through a USB2
cable.

You plug that into the camera, and then the software (premiere or
whatever you use), lets you play stuff off the tape onto the computer.

If you have a modern computer, that supports USB2, then you may be able
to just plug it into a USB port. If not, your computer either needs to
have a firewire/IEEE1394 port, or you need to buy a card to bung in
your computer with one on. If you happen to have a mac, you have the
port anyway.

I've played with a Sony HD camcorder, and they are amazing, the image
quality is just incredible, each frame is surprisingly close in quality
to a still photo. I think they are *way* out of your price range
though.

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Digital Video will record onto mini DV tapes. You will then, unless
using a mini dv deck(kinda like a vcr), use fire wire to transfer the
footage from the tape to your computer. If you arnt looking at spending
a ton or illegaly getting software you will be using either
imovie(mac), or window movie maker,(PC)(I think thats what its called).
Both of those programs are free and come already installed and any
recent computer. As far as wether your setup will be effeciant for
editing... I agree with John, we will need to know your What you are
using now. If yer computer is more than 2 years old, you may need some
upgrades as to not drive yourself insane with rendering times.

As for sofware, Final Cut/Avid/Vegas are pretty much the standard In
the DV industry... tho there is a fairly large learning curve to using
those programs.

You will defenetly want to lookin into a Extrenal HD, tho at about 50
cents a GIGbyte they are pretty affordable.

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johnfoss said:

After thirteen Unicons, we still don't have a good, "watchable" Unicon
video that people can buy.

Errr... 'what's this?' (http://tinyurl.com/33rerg)

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joemarshall said:

(premiere or whatever you use)

Yes I forgot this one, adobe premiere is finaly become a decent
program, tho still fairly dry without having the whole adobe package.

joemarshall said:

I've played with a Sony HD camcorder, and they are amazing, the image
quality is just incredible, each frame is surprisingly close in quality
to a still photo. I think they are *way* out of your price range
though.
Joe

I just have to say, that the picture quality with this camera may be
"outstanding" compaired to SDV, but sonys cameras a pure garbage
compaired to a cannon or pannasonic. Its a much better investment going
with a consumer panny than a prosumer sony... atleast when you factor
in price piont. The only good thing about sony is with the right camera
you can fit the "death lens". Just my opinion.... and a few others, but
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captainkrunk61 said:

'Panasonic PV-GS320' (http://tinyurl.com/2y62wf)
It's 3CCD which allows for superior color quality. You wont be
disappointed. I use this, haven't made a movie with it yet; so does my
friend Ryan Henning, who does have a movie out. I know Spencer Hochberg
and maybe some others use this as well.

I have the Pv-GS300 and absolutely love the quality, not even
comparable those stupid mini-DVDs.

I'm not 100% sure but I think that 3ccd cameras pick up low light
levels better than just huge single ccd cameras.

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gkmac said:

Errr... 'what's this?' (http://tinyurl.com/33rerg)

Holy [censored] -- it's new information for me! I don't remember hearing about
that one coming on the market. I wonder why it was never listed at UDC
US?

Any reviews? Is it any good? At 270 minutes' running time, I wouldn't
call it watchable in whole, but that's the beauty of a DVD, being able
to skip to the interesting stuff. Hopefully. I remember seeing some of
the Freestyle video footage from that boom camera; it was pretty bad.
The boom was moving all over the place for no apparent reason and the
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what about something like this http://tinyurl.com/2do3np

or if you could give me some pointers out of some of these on
PriceRunner, so I can compare them.
http://tinyurl.com/39xqso

Thanks very much guys!
As for the computer, its about 6months old. Fairly decent Dell I think.
Im no computer nut. What size external hard drive would be sufficent?

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johnfoss said:

Holy [censored] -- it's new information for me! I don't remember hearing about
that one coming on the market. I wonder why it was never listed at UDC
US?

It's one of the only unicycle DVDs that is in the European PAL TV
format. American TV format is NTSC, which is completely different in
all aspects (the pixel resolution, the frame rate, the way the picture
is "colored" in) and is guaranteed not to be able to show anything PAL
at all. In short, Americans can only watch that DVD on a computer.

johnfoss said:

Is it any good? At 270 minutes' running time, I wouldn't call it
watchable in whole.

Well the unicycle races section has unaltered footage of a single whole
race, and then unaltered footage of another whole race, and another,
and another. The long jump has some long jumps, and some more long
jumps, and then some high jumps, and some more...

Apart from the street competition winners and the freestyle footage,
there's hardly any entertainment value in it. But I say that because I
didn't go to UNICON; I bought that DVD as a curiosity. It seems to be
more like a souvenir for people who went, but at just ten pounds (about
half the price of a typical unicycle DVD) you can't really go wrong.

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Oh, how about http://tinyurl.com/356oum

Seems like a low amount of pixles?

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gkmac said:

Apart from the street competition winners and the freestyle footage,
there's hardly any entertainment value in it. It seems to be more like
a souvenir for people who went, but at just ten pounds (about half the
price of a typical unicycle DVD) you can't really go wrong.

Thanks for the report! So I'll return to my original assertion:

"We still don't have a good, "watchable" Unicon video."

Watchable means someone who wasn't there would actually sit through it.
That's really all I require, though I'd like it to be *geared toward* a
non-unicycling audience that wasn't there, so they'll know what they're
looking at. The only video like that I've ever seen was called
Unicycle, and it was made in 1980-81. It's a little outdated now.

All the 'convention videos here' (http://tinyurl.com/yvwae2) ended up
like the Unicon one; in the end they really only work as reference, and
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Coming from someone saying this thread wasn't in the right forum, you
sure like to thread jack without much help whatsoever eh? Atleast
pretend to be usefull.

johnfoss said:

(here in the unicycle forum)

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joe said:

Oh, how about http://tinyurl.com/356oum

Seems like a low amount of pixles?

For -video- recording a low amount of pixels doesn't matter.

For the record, a PAL video picture (i.e. what you watch on your TV
screen) is 720x576 pixels which is 0.4 megapixels. Exactly the same as
the "effective megapixels" of this camera, believe it or not!

If you get a video camera with more megapixels, you just increase the
quality of the _still_picture_ capability i.e. taking still
photographs. Taking video with a video camera with more megapixels
won't do any good, since the picture still has to be scaled down to
720x576/0.4 megapixels to fit on your TV screen.

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joe said:

Oh, how about http://tinyurl.com/356oum

Seems like a low amount of pixles?

Joe,

I have that camera. It seems to do a good job for me.

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joe said:

Also, my good computer is okay, but not sure how well it would manage
video editing. I'd probably need some new software too, and more space
on the computer. I know I could get an external hard drive, but what
about RAM (if thats right?)

Any help would be much appreciated, cheers!

Joe,

I don't think your RAM is gona make much difference, RAM just allows
you to run more programs simultaneously without your computer crashing.
Obviously it would help to have a good amount of it, however if you're
going to film a lot the extra hard drive space is what you're looking
for. Off the top of my head, 400gb is around £80, which is a really
good deal.

In all, I think you just need a good reliable computer thats well
maintained.

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you want cool, then you need a 'gorilla pod' made by cannon, it is a
tripod with flexible legs, it can stand up, easily stand on slopeing
ground, and can wrap around trees or poles, very cool although i havent
got a link and i dont have fast internet so i am not going to go
looking for a link, just try looking at the cannon website.

not exactly what you asked, but a good camera holding device makes your
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jamessd said:

I don't think your RAM is gona make much difference, RAM just allows you
to run more programs simultaneously without your computer crashing.
Obviously it would help to have a good amount of it, however if you're
going to film a lot the extra hard drive space is what you're looking
for. Off the top of my head, 400gb is around £80, which is a really
good deal.

In all, I think you just need a good reliable computer thats well
maintained.

Hop it helps :p

Actually I doubled the ram on my computer and it cut the encoding time
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