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  1. Quoted message said:
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    On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >From the official Tour de France web site:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
    was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
    battle subsequently ensued."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >From their profile of Hinault:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
    Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

    Quoted message said:

    Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
    don't seem to have
    a problem with that though.

    Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
    yellow jerseys despite the additional fact that he got his step
    daughter pregnant.

    That last indiscretion would probably earn him an extra Yellow Jersey,
    according to French cultural values.
    Penalising people for their sexual indiscretions, is an American
    thing, nothing to do with France.

    -ilan

  2. benjo maso said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    bidon jaune said:

    <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
    aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the
    past
    everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls
    in
    athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope.
    it'es
    easy to see that.

    it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
    it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious

    Sorry to inform someone so well informed to begin with but most men
    who are going to lose their hair start losing it at 20 years old. By
    24 I was bald and I don't like to take aspirin.

    Besides, Rasmussen isn't bald at all. He's just shaving his head, which -
    AFAIK - isn't a considered as a sign of using doping (yet).

    Benjo

    He seems to have let it grow a bit longer this year. Does make him look less
    like an alien on the old Star Trek.

    Ron

  3. RonSonic said:

    He seems to have let it grow a bit longer this year. Does make him look less
    like an alien on the old Star Trek.

    grahamwatson.com2.jpg
    http://www.70disco.com/images/talos03.jpg

    Hard to tell apart.

    Bob Schwartz

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From the official Tour de France web site:

    Quoted message said:

    "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
    was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
    battle subsequently ensued."

    Quoted message said:

    What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From their profile of Hinault:

    Quoted message said:

    "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
    Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

    Quoted message said:

    Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

    In French, "supporter" literally means "to put up with." Since the
    French regularly mistranslate faux cousins,
    e.g., they now use "supporter" as in English (in correct French
    "soutenir"😉, maybe it's a clever counter.
    ASO clever, that would be different.

    -ilan

    Not sure about this but: "another" is British allusion refering to....

  5. Quoted message said:

    On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
    > >From the official Tour de France web site:

    Quoted message said:

    > "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
    > was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
    > battle subsequently ensued."

    Quoted message said:

    > What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

    Quoted message said:

    > >From their profile of Hinault:

    Quoted message said:

    > "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
    > Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

    Quoted message said:

    > Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

    Quoted message said:

    Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
    don't seem to have
    a problem with that though.

    Quoted message said:

    -ilan

    Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
    enhancing

    However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
    performance enhancers

    It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
    but not on the UCI's

    Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
    he was doping. This means he
    got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
    doping. He cannot be considered
    a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
    been kept the rules of the event.

    Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
    positive for absolutely nothing

    And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
    20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported

    You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
    it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
    LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
    wrong list.

    Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
    Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a [censored] by the name of Lionel Jospin,
    in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
    "straying from considerations of health and morals".

    Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
    have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
    ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB1631F931A15754C0A96E948260

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
    -
    "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you;
    from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary
    residents living among you and members of their clans born in your
    country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your
    children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life....."
    (Leviticus 25:44-46)

  6. benjo maso said:

    Besides, Rasmussen isn't bald at all. He's just shaving his head, which -
    AFAIK - isn't a considered as a sign of using doping (yet).

    He's masking the peroxide.

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
    yellow jerseys despite the additional fact that he got his step
    daughter pregnant.

    ilanpsi said:

    That last indiscretion would probably earn him an extra Yellow Jersey,
    according to French cultural values.

    The yellow condom for GC and the green condom for best sprinter (h^2 would
    like that one).

  8. http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rolling+stones/have+you+seen+your+mother+baby+standing+in+the+shadow_20118087.html

  9. datakoll said:

    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rolling+stones/have+you+seen+your+mother...

    seriously, i hope this shed some light on the problem!

  10. On Jul 21, 9:20 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] writes:
    > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
    >> >From the official Tour de France web site:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
    >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
    >> battle subsequently ensued."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >From their profile of Hinault:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
    >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
    > don't seem to have
    > a problem with that though.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > -ilan

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
    enhancing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
    performance enhancers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
    but not on the UCI's

    Quoted message said:

    Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
    he was doping. This means he
    got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
    doping. He cannot be considered
    a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
    been kept the rules of the event.

    Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
    positive for absolutely nothing

    And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
    20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported

    You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
    it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
    LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
    wrong list.

    Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
    Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a [censored] by the name of Lionel Jospin,
    in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
    "straying from considerations of health and morals".

    Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
    have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
    ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.
    2
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB163...

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
    -
    "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you;
    from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary
    residents living among you and members of their clans born in your
    country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your
    children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life....."
    (Leviticus 25:44-46)

    Thanks, I didn't know much of the details of the case. It's an amusing
    progression, if
    20 years ago a positive test only led to time penalties, and now, you
    get fired and
    banned from races just for rumours that you doped, you have to wonder
    what it will be in 20 years...

    -ilan

  11. Quoted message said:

    On Jul 21, 9:20 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    > [email hidden] writes:
    > > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >From the official Tour de France web site:

    Quoted message said:

    > >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
    > >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
    > >> battle subsequently ensued."

    Quoted message said:

    > >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

    Quoted message said:

    > >> >From their profile of Hinault:

    Quoted message said:

    > >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
    > >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

    Quoted message said:

    > >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

    Quoted message said:

    > > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
    > > don't seem to have
    > > a problem with that though.

    Quoted message said:

    > > -ilan

    Quoted message said:

    > Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
    > enhancing

    Quoted message said:

    > However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
    > performance enhancers

    Quoted message said:

    > It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
    > but not on the UCI's

    Quoted message said:

    Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
    he was doping. This means he
    got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
    doping. He cannot be considered
    a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
    been kept the rules of the event.

    Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
    positive for absolutely nothing

    And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
    20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported

    You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
    it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
    LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
    wrong list.

    Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
    Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a [censored] by the name of Lionel Jospin,
    in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
    "straying from considerations of health and morals".

    Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
    have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
    ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.
    2
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB163...

    --

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks, I didn't know much of the details of the case. It's an amusing
    progression, if
    20 years ago a positive test only led to time penalties, and now, you
    get fired and
    banned from races just for rumours that you doped, you have to wonder
    what it will be in 20 years...

    Incidentally, in contrast to Telekom et alii these days, note how
    Perico's Team immediately went to bat for him

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
    -
    SOS - HMS Britannia
    http://azurservers.com/rbr/sos.wmv

  12. Quoted message said:

    On Jul 21, 9:20 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    > [email hidden] writes:
    > > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >From the official Tour de France web site:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
    > >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
    > >> battle subsequently ensued."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> >From their profile of Hinault:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
    > >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
    > > don't seem to have
    > > a problem with that though.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > -ilan

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
    > enhancing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
    > performance enhancers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
    > but not on the UCI's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
    he was doping. This means he
    got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
    doping. He cannot be considered
    a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
    been kept the rules of the event.

    Quoted message said:

    Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
    positive for absolutely nothing

    Quoted message said:

    And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
    20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported

    Quoted message said:

    You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
    it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
    LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
    wrong list.

    Quoted message said:

    Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
    Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a [censored] by the name of Lionel Jospin,
    in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
    "straying from considerations of health and morals".

    Quoted message said:

    Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
    have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
    ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.
    2
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB163...

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
    -
    "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you;
    from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary
    residents living among you and members of their clans born in your
    country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your
    children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life....."
    (Leviticus 25:44-46)

    Thanks, I didn't know much of the details of the case. It's an amusing
    progression, if
    20 years ago a positive test only led to time penalties, and now, you
    get fired and
    banned from races just for rumours that you doped, you have to wonder
    what it will be in 20 years...

    -ilan- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    word travels slowly then lemmings rush toward the cliff
    the dark force steps in for profit
    authority is threatened with embarrassment by moral forces
    new regime!
    everyone toes the line
    meanwhile back at the lab....

  13. RicodJour said:


    That's why I kick my dog when he's sleeping. Can't trust anyone, and
    he's a better dog for knowing that.

    Ah, that explains a lot.

    Greg
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  14. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From the official Tour de France web site:

    "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
    was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
    battle subsequently ensued."

    What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?

    Quoted message said:

    From their profile of Hinault:

    "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
    Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."

    Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!

    I suppose those French aren't giggling too loudly about Cofidis these days.

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