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  1. I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    He barely gets a mention in this forum, hardly anything positive of
    him on most web sites (cyclingnews.com being perhaps an exception) and
    the team on Versus don't even seem to know that he is in the race.

    Yet; he was second only to a storming Vino in today's TT, boding well
    for the final TT in a few days, and he has been matching the attacks
    in the mountains better and more consistently than anyone.

    So what am I missing, why is he not being talked about as strong
    contender for the overall?

    Michael.

  2. Michael. said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    He barely gets a mention in this forum, hardly anything positive of
    him on most web sites (cyclingnews.com being perhaps an exception) and
    the team on Versus don't even seem to know that he is in the race.

    Yet; he was second only to a storming Vino in today's TT, boding well
    for the final TT in a few days, and he has been matching the attacks
    in the mountains better and more consistently than anyone.

    So what am I missing, why is he not being talked about as strong
    contender for the overall?

    Huh. I thought it was on Versus this morning that Phil/Paul declared
    Evans was now (in their minds) the favorite. I could be remembering
    wrongly.

    Mark J.

  3. Mark said:
    Michael. said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    He barely gets a mention in this forum, hardly anything positive of
    him on most web sites (cyclingnews.com being perhaps an exception) and
    the team on Versus don't even seem to know that he is in the race.

    Yet; he was second only to a storming Vino in today's TT, boding well
    for the final TT in a few days, and he has been matching the attacks
    in the mountains better and more consistently than anyone.

    So what am I missing, why is he not being talked about as strong
    contender for the overall?

    Huh. I thought it was on Versus this morning that Phil/Paul declared
    Evans was now (in their minds) the favorite. I could be remembering
    wrongly.

    Hmmm. I called Evans for last years Tour.

  4. Stu Fleming said:
    Mark said:
    Michael. said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    He barely gets a mention in this forum, hardly anything positive of
    him on most web sites (cyclingnews.com being perhaps an exception) and
    the team on Versus don't even seem to know that he is in the race.

    Yet; he was second only to a storming Vino in today's TT, boding well
    for the final TT in a few days, and he has been matching the attacks
    in the mountains better and more consistently than anyone.

    So what am I missing, why is he not being talked about as strong
    contender for the overall?

    Huh. I thought it was on Versus this morning that Phil/Paul declared
    Evans was now (in their minds) the favorite. I could be remembering
    wrongly.

    Hmmm. I called Evans for last years Tour.

    Last year he didn't have a chance because of all the dopers. But NOW
    that the tour's clean...

  5. Michael. said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    Quoted message said:

    He barely gets a mention in this forum, hardly anything positive of
    him on most web sites (cyclingnews.com being perhaps an exception) and
    the team on Versus don't even seem to know that he is in the race.

    Quoted message said:

    Yet; he was second only to a storming Vino in today's TT, boding well
    for the final TT in a few days, and he has been matching the attacks
    in the mountains better and more consistently than anyone.

    Quoted message said:

    So what am I missing, why is he not being talked about as strong
    contender for the overall?

    Pressently Evans has the best chance to win i Paris, assuming Astana
    doesn't put all their balls in the hands of Vinukorov or Rasmussen rides
    conservativly. However if the race explodes in the next 3 stages he is
    not my favorite. A chrage form Rasmussen and/or Vikukurov and i think
    Evans will have to fight for 2nd.

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

  6. On Jul 22, 12:49 am, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Michael. said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?
    He barely gets a mention in this forum, hardly anything positive of
    him on most web sites (cyclingnews.com being perhaps an exception) and
    the team on Versus don't even seem to know that he is in the race.
    Yet; he was second only to a storming Vino in today's TT, boding well
    for the final TT in a few days, and he has been matching the attacks
    in the mountains better and more consistently than anyone.
    So what am I missing, why is he not being talked about as strong
    contender for the overall?

    Pressently Evans has the best chance to win i Paris, assuming Astana
    doesn't put all their balls in the hands of Vinukorov or Rasmussen rides
    conservativly. However if the race explodes in the next 3 stages he is
    not my favorite. A chrage form Rasmussen and/or Vikukurov and i think
    Evans will have to fight for 2nd.

    Dumbass -

    Rasmussen doesn't "charge". He can't attack and drop people - he
    doesn't have a big change of pace in him.

    What he is good at is riding hard for a very long time. It serves him
    well in long range attacks in situations where he is unmarked but when
    he's in yellow he won't be going off the front. No change of pace.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  7. On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:19:26 -0700, Kurgan Gringioni <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 22, 12:49 am, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Michael. said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?
    He barely gets a mention in this forum, hardly anything positive of
    him on most web sites (cyclingnews.com being perhaps an exception) and
    the team on Versus don't even seem to know that he is in the race.
    Yet; he was second only to a storming Vino in today's TT, boding well
    for the final TT in a few days, and he has been matching the attacks
    in the mountains better and more consistently than anyone.
    So what am I missing, why is he not being talked about as strong
    contender for the overall?

    Pressently Evans has the best chance to win i Paris, assuming Astana
    doesn't put all their balls in the hands of Vinukorov or Rasmussen rides
    conservativly. However if the race explodes in the next 3 stages he is
    not my favorite. A chrage form Rasmussen and/or Vikukurov and i think
    Evans will have to fight for 2nd.

    Dumbass -

    Rasmussen doesn't "charge". He can't attack and drop people - he
    doesn't have a big change of pace in him.

    What he is good at is riding hard for a very long time. It serves him
    well in long range attacks in situations where he is unmarked but when
    he's in yellow he won't be going off the front. No change of pace.

    I don't think they'll be able to do anything about him. He won't sprint away
    from anyone on the flat, but on a stage with two HC climbs, he doesn't need to.

    Ron

  8. Kurgan Gringioni said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pressently Evans has the best chance to win i Paris, assuming Astana
    doesn't put all their balls in the hands of Vinukorov or Rasmussen rides
    conservativly. However if the race explodes in the next 3 stages he is
    not my favorite. A chrage form Rasmussen and/or Vikukurov and i think
    Evans will have to fight for 2nd.

    Dumbass -

    Quoted message said:

    Rasmussen doesn't "charge". He can't attack and drop people - he
    doesn't have a big change of pace in him.

    Do you still think he can't drop anyone? He used Soler and Contador to
    drop Evans today like they where his puppets.

    Quoted message said:

    What he is good at is riding hard for a very long time. It serves him
    well in long range attacks in situations where he is unmarked but when
    he's in yellow he won't be going off the front. No change of pace.

    Now who's the dumbaas?

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

  9. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Dumbass -

    Rasmussen doesn't "charge". He can't attack and drop people - he
    doesn't have a big change of pace in him.

    What he is good at is riding hard for a very long time. It serves him
    well in long range attacks in situations where he is unmarked but when
    he's in yellow he won't be going off the front. No change of pace.

    Say what?

  10. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbass -

    Rasmussen doesn't "charge". He can't attack and drop people - he
    doesn't have a big change of pace in him.

    What he is good at is riding hard for a very long time. It serves him
    well in long range attacks in situations where he is unmarked but when
    he's in yellow he won't be going off the front. No change of pace.

    Dumbass,

    Now that the Tour is clean, things are different. Today was proof
    of that.

    I guess you guys that thought The Pledge was worthless are really
    eating [censored] now.

    Bob Schwartz

  11. Bob Schwartz said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbass -

    Rasmussen doesn't "charge". He can't attack and drop people - he
    doesn't have a big change of pace in him.

    What he is good at is riding hard for a very long time. It serves him
    well in long range attacks in situations where he is unmarked but when
    he's in yellow he won't be going off the front. No change of pace.

    Dumbass,

    Now that the Tour is clean, things are different. Today was proof
    of that.

    I guess you guys that thought The Pledge was worthless are really
    eating [censored] now.

    Huh? We have no more or fewer failed dope tests now than at this point last
    year. 'Sokay, they've got another week to screw up another sample.

    I really don't think anyone is any dirtier or cleaner than last year. Vino is
    still a frothing maniac and Rasmussen's still a freak - what's new.

    Ron

  12. in message <[email hidden]>, Michael.

    (') said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    Did you see his performance today? That's why no one is talking up his
    chances. When he can't hold the wheel in front, all he can do is to wait
    for another wheel to come by and try to suck that.

    You can get second on the podium being a wheelsucker, if you're very, very
    lucky. You can't get first.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

  13. in message <[email hidden]>, Kurgan

    Gringioni (') said:

    Rasmussen doesn't "charge". He can't attack and drop people - he
    doesn't have a big change of pace in him.

    Really? Who was it who was wearing yellow today, then?

    Quoted message said:

    What he is good at is riding hard for a very long time. It serves him
    well in long range attacks in situations where he is unmarked but when
    he's in yellow he won't be going off the front.

    Another prediction bites the dust.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ;; "If I were a Microsoft Public Relations person, I would probably
    ;; be sobbing on a desk right now" -- Rob Miller, editor, /.

  14. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Michael.

    (') said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    Did you see his performance today? That's why no one is talking up his
    chances. When he can't hold the wheel in front, all he can do is to wait
    for another wheel to come by and try to suck that.

    You can get second on the podium being a wheelsucker, if you're very, very
    lucky. You can't get first.

    I seem to recall a large Spaniard who adopted a similar approach -
    i.e. wheel suck the true climbers and limit his losses, confident that
    he could get minutes out of them in the flat TTs - to great success.

    Now, Evans is no Indurain, but still ....

    Quoted message said:


    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    begin 666 this_is_not_a_virus.vbs
    There is no virus attached to this post.
    end

  15. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Michael.

    (') said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    Did you see his performance today? That's why no one is talking up his
    chances. When he can't hold the wheel in front, all he can do is to wait
    for another wheel to come by and try to suck that.

    You can get second on the podium being a wheelsucker, if you're very, very
    lucky. You can't get first.

    dumbass,

    sure you can. that's how savoldelli won the giro two years ago.

  16. On Jul 22, 1:48 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Michael.

    Quoted message said:
    (') said:

    I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    chances?

    Quoted message said:

    Did you see his performance today? That's why no one is talking up his
    chances. When he can't hold the wheel in front, all he can do is to wait
    for another wheel to come by and try to suck that.

    Quoted message said:

    You can get second on the podium being a wheelsucker, if you're very, very
    lucky. You can't get first.

    dumbass,

    sure you can. that's how savoldelli won the giro two years ago.

    Dumbass -

    Perriero almost did it last year.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  17. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    On Jul 22, 1:48 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Michael.

    Quoted message said:

    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
    > I don't get it, why is it that virtually no one is talking up Evan's
    > chances?

    Quoted message said:

    Did you see his performance today? That's why no one is talking up his
    chances. When he can't hold the wheel in front, all he can do is to wait
    for another wheel to come by and try to suck that.

    Quoted message said:

    You can get second on the podium being a wheelsucker, if you're very, very
    lucky. You can't get first.

    dumbass,

    sure you can. that's how savoldelli won the giro two years ago.


    Dumbass -
    Perriero almost did it last year.

    Dumbass, Pereiro was in a long breakaway working to get time.
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