Canning Tomatoes

Sheldon said:

I seriously doubt anyone who's been at rfc a while doubts what I say
I've done. Pictures of my crops and everything else I've ever claimed
have been shown here many, many times over many, many years. I've
never held back on posting pictures (posted some yesterday and today),

Have you considered or participated in any of the county fairs since you
moved upstate?

KW said:

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http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb58/warrenmountain/Tomatoes%20200...

So Sheldon, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

That pidling pile of tomatoes.... and those are all salad tomatoes, no
one preserves salad tomatoes. It'd be a damn shame to cook those.

Anny Middon said:

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Aug 13, 12:42?pm, "Anny Middon" <[email hidden]>

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> Post pictures. Until you do, you're just mouth.

I seriously doubt anyone who's been at rfc a while doubts what I say
I've done. Pictures of my crops and everything else I've ever claimed
have been shown here many, many times over many, many years. I've
never held back on posting pictures (posted some yesterday and today),
you don't see any fanfare because folks are probably bored with them.
But you just arrived and all you are is a one excuse after another
NEWBIE BIG MOUTH! And I don't want to see any medals (anyone can take
pics of medals), I want to see what won the medals... show me your
farm, show me your crops, show me your kitchen, show me your kitchen
under a full head of steam, show me your tons and tons of whatever it
is you claim to have done.... and prove it's yours.

While I'm certainly nowhere near the most prolific poster, Google Groups
shows I first posted here in July, 2005. So I haven't just arrived.

And I rarely read your posts, since you come across as a know-nothing
blowhard.

got it in one, anny. add in a pathological propensity to call
everyone 'liar,' add disgusting ethnic slurs, and that's our sheldon,
the flower of long island.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:38:03 -0400, Goomba38 <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Sheldon said:

I seriously doubt anyone who's been at rfc a while doubts what I say
I've done. Pictures of my crops and everything else I've ever claimed
have been shown here many, many times over many, many years. I've
never held back on posting pictures (posted some yesterday and today),

Have you considered or participated in any of the county fairs since you
moved upstate?

i'm thinking he could do quite well in the pig division.

your pal,
blake

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Pennyaline <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > Pennyaline <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >> remains closed. And I wouldn't mail a jar of beans or jam or picalilly*
> >> to friends and folks with any delusion of it getting there intact. No
> >> sir, they can stop by if they want some, or wait 'til the get-together.
> >
> > Why not? If properly packed there's no reason they shouldn't arrive
> > intact. I've mailed across country and abroad both with great
> > satisfaction of the recipients.
>
> Why not? Primarily because I have no need to mail preserves 'cross land
> and sea.

Well, there you go, then! :-)

> But my experience with USPS and the major package carriers when
> it comes to breakable items is they shouldn't be trusted with anything
> more brittle than a damp sponge.

Well, phooey on them!

barb, the way you pack stuff they could drop it from airplanes with no
harm.

your pal,
blake

So, have you opened one of them yet?

i gave the raspberry-something jar to my girlfriend, and got a good
report. the cherry is yet to fall.

your pal,
blake

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Canned tomatoes at their peak of ripeness are better than tomatoids in
January at the market. It is nice, too, to be able to control the amount
of
salt and other ingredients if one needs a special diet. And to do away
with
the high fructose corn syrup altogether. That stuff is in everything.
Edrena

If what one wants is plain canned tomatoes the tinned at the
stupidmarket contain nothing but tomatoes, are safer, taste better,
are better quality, are less effort, and cost less than any one can
put up at home[period] Right now is when tinned tomatoes are on sale,
is when I buy them by the case. It's just plain stupid to home can
plain tomatoes, as stupid as hand knitting plain white socks.

Sheldon

But Sheldon:
Homemade pasta sauce with homemade sausage and homemade pasta makes more of
an impression on company (be it a new date, parents, neighbors, etc) than
the premade stuff.

Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> dropped this
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I have not. I've made tomato jam from red tomatoes ‹ in fact, I may
do that with some of the last of the box I bought. Thanks for the
reminder. I've got a neighbor who remembers it fondly from her youth
and she loved the stuff I made a few years ago.

Have you ever made tomato juice and canned it? My aunt used to can tomato
juice every year and it was absolutely fantastic. She canned some with and
some without seeds. I like the seeded better for some reason. Before
summer is over I intend to make my first batch of pickles and I'd
absolutely love to can some tomatoes and some tomato juice.

Michael <- going shopping for a pressure cooker tomorrow
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Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:

Have you ever made tomato juice and canned it? My aunt used to can tomato
juice every year and it was absolutely fantastic. She canned some with and
some without seeds. I like the seeded better for some reason. Before
summer is over I intend to make my first batch of pickles and I'd
absolutely love to can some tomatoes and some tomato juice.

Michael <- going shopping for a pressure cooker tomorrow

As a matter of fact I canned tomato juice yesterday. Two pints for the
Fair and four half pints for a friend of Chris'; I drank the remaining
two cups, hot. You should live this well.

Check in at r.f.preserving if you want canning info. Your primary
reference for the topic should be www.uga.edu/nchfp. Know that you
don't need a pressure vessel for most meatless tomato "stuff." And know
that pressure canning isn't exactly for a rank beginner. And know that
if you're planning to pressure can anything, you need a canner, not a
cooker. A canner, according to the NCHFP folks, must hold at least four
quart jars. Pay attention to that. If you want to can tomato juice,
you can waterbath process it in a Bigass kettle with boiling water.
Check the NCHFP site or the fine people at rec.food.preserving. Also,
we have a very fine FAQ file located at:
http://www.jaclu.com/rfpFAQ/rfpFAQ.htm
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Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:

Have you ever made tomato juice and canned it?

Don't you think that's kind of redundantly silly... the stupidmarket
has enough brands to pick, choose, and refuse till your head is
swimming like you've had too many bloody marys. But I don't buy
tomato juice... I make my tomato juice from tomato paste... it's much
better because you can custom dilute to your own taste, it costs much
less, and itsy bitsy cans of paste take up practically no room at
all. Tomato paste is pure tomato with nothing added. And in fact
when you buy tomato juice every single brand is made from
reconstituted tomato paste... you pay a big premium for large
expensive containers and to ship all that water, and storeage and
shelf space at the stupidmarket... and scads of money for advertising.

Sheldon

blake murphy said:

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:38:03 -0400, Goomba38 <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Sheldon wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I seriously doubt anyone who's been at rfc a while doubts what I say
I've done. Pictures of my crops and everything else I've ever claimed
have been shown here many, many times over many, many years. I've
never held back on posting pictures (posted some yesterday and today),

Quoted message said:

Have you considered or participated in any of the county fairs since you
moved upstate?

i'm thinking he could do quite well in the pig division.

Yeah, pig calling... and you show up!

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:

Have you ever made tomato juice and canned it?

Don't you think that's kind of redundantly silly... the stupidmarket
has enough brands to pick, choose, and refuse till your head is
swimming like you've had too many bloody marys.  But I don't buy
tomato juice... I make my tomato juice from tomato paste... it's much
better because you can custom dilute to your own taste, it costs much
less, and itsy bitsy cans of paste take up practically no room at
all.  Tomato paste is pure tomato with nothing added.  And in fact
when you buy tomato juice every single brand is made from
reconstituted tomato paste... you pay a big premium for large
expensive containers and to ship all that water, and storeage and
shelf space at the stupidmarket... and scads of money for advertising.

Here: http://www.redgold.com/sacramento/products.asp

All brands are made the same, in fact all the tomato juice brands are
made in the same regional plants, they simply fill the appropriate
containers and slap on the different labels... if you notice one brand
tastes a bit different from another it's because tomato juice is
permitted to contain added salt and citric acid (paste is not
permitted to add anything), and each brand adds stuff to their own
specs, as well as diluting to their specs. And who knows the heritage
of the tomato paste used (probably all from just a few regional paste
plants, the tomato juice plants probably use paste from 55 gallon
drums or some such.

Btw, you can't make tomato paste at home, not a product that would be
nearly as good as the commercial product, and for the same reason I
don't believe anyone can make decent tomato juice at home... the
commercially prepared product is not cooked to remove excess water.
Very expensive and elaborate vacuum extraction equipment is used, the
same that is used to make OJ concentrate (both are fruit and are
briefly heated but not cooked). Btw, OJ made from concentrate is a
better product than what's in the packages that say "not from
concentrate"... it's a marketing ploy to steal your money. And frozen
OJ concentrate is a better product than reconstituted (obviously).
And unless you have citrus growing in your back yard frozen
concentrate is a better product than so-called fresh citrus from the
stupidmarket.

That said, freezing to preserve food at home ALWAYS produces a
substantionally superior product to home canned, especially
nutritionally. Home canning may be a fun diversion to wile away the
hours and weeks and months of those who don't have a life (obviously -
if you have that much time), but it's not smart. Preserving salad
tomatoes by any method... just doesn't get more stupid... as stupid as
turning USDA Prime beef filet into tube steak.

Sheldon

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Btw, you can't make tomato paste at home, not a product that would be
nearly as good as the commercial product, and for the same reason I
don't believe anyone can make decent tomato juice at home... the
commercially prepared product is not cooked to remove excess water.

Once again you're showing your extreme ignorance when it comes to cooking.

My Italian grandmother used to regularly make homemade tomato paste. My
mother remembers when she was a small girl still in the old country watching
her mother and grandmother make tomato paste. My sister regularly makes
conserva -- a seasoned tomato paste.

All are superior to canned products. But then I wouldn't expect someone who
thinks tomato juice made from canned tomato paste is superior to tomato
juice freshly made from vine-ripened tomatoes to know what's really good.

Anny

Anny Middon said:

While I'm certainly nowhere near the most prolific poster, Google Groups
shows I first posted here in July, 2005. So I haven't just arrived.

Au contraire, a two - year tenure here marks you as an utter and
complete noobie. In fact I've been here about *nine* years and I
still consider myself something of a noobie...quite a few have been
here far, *far* longer than me.

So be grateful that Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
ropes", kid...

:-D

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Gregory Morrow said:

Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
ropes", kid...

Sheldon...showing you the ropes? He is a colossal buffoon.
Killfiled him in 1994.

Ward Abbott said:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:39:26 -0700, Gregory Morrow

Quoted message said:

Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
ropes", kid...

Sheldon...showing you the ropes? He is a colossal buffoon.
Killfiled him in 1994.

"Beaver, I'm worried about The Ward..."

;-)

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Gregory Morrow said:

Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
ropes", kid...

Sheldon...showing you the ropes? He is a colossal buffoon.
Killfiled him in 1994.

Shelwho?......For some season, I don't see posts from a
Shellypoo...anymore.......
It's made rfc a lot more pleasant and I highly recommend the experience.

"Gregory Morrow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anny Middon said:

While I'm certainly nowhere near the most prolific poster, Google Groups
shows I first posted here in July, 2005. So I haven't just arrived.

Au contraire, a two - year tenure here marks you as an utter and
complete noobie. In fact I've been here about *nine* years and I
still consider myself something of a noobie...quite a few have been
here far, *far* longer than me.

So be grateful that Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
ropes", kid...

Sheldon said I had "just arrived". Regardless of whether a two-year tenure
makes me a newbie or not, it's clear that I haven't just arrived.

Besides, I don't see what the big deal about newbies is. In the newsgroups
I've participated in, I've frequently seen a person's first post be polite,
entertaining, and full of interesting and accurate information. And then
there are the people like Sheldon, who posts rants full of dull name-calling
and inaccuracies.

Who do you think adds more value to the newsgroup?

Anny

Anny Middon said:

"Gregory Morrow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:... Anny Middon said:

Quoted message said:

While I'm certainly nowhere near the most prolific poster, Google Groups
shows I first posted here in July, 2005. So I haven't just arrived.

Quoted message said:

Au contraire, a two - year tenure here marks you as an utter and
complete noobie. In fact I've been here about *nine* years and I
still consider myself something of a noobie...quite a few have been
here far, *far* longer than me.

Quoted message said:

So be grateful that Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
ropes", kid...

Sheldon said I had "just arrived". Regardless of whether a two-year tenure
makes me a newbie or not, it's clear that I haven't just arrived.

Besides, I don't see what the big deal about newbies is. In the newsgroups
I've participated in, I've frequently seen a person's first post be polite,
entertaining, and full of interesting and accurate information. And then
there are the people like Sheldon, who posts rants full of dull name-calling
and inaccuracies.

Who do you think adds more value to the newsgroup?

Honey, you *are* a clueless noobie...

Lol...

;-p

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Anny Middon said:

"Gregory Morrow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:[email hidden]...> Anny Middon

Quoted message said:

> While I'm certainly nowhere near the most prolific poster, Google
> Groups
> shows I first posted here in July, 2005. So I haven't just arrived.

Quoted message said:

Au contraire, a two - year tenure here marks you as an utter and
complete noobie. In fact I've been here about *nine* years and I
still consider myself something of a noobie...quite a few have been
here far, *far* longer than me.

Quoted message said:

So be grateful that Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
ropes", kid...

Sheldon said I had "just arrived". Regardless of whether a two-year
tenure
makes me a newbie or not, it's clear that I haven't just arrived.

Besides, I don't see what the big deal about newbies is. In the
newsgroups
I've participated in, I've frequently seen a person's first post be
polite,
entertaining, and full of interesting and accurate information. And then
there are the people like Sheldon, who posts rants full of dull
name-calling
and inaccuracies.

Who do you think adds more value to the newsgroup?

Honey, you *are* a clueless noobie...

Lol...

;-p

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cybercat said:

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Anny Middon wrote:

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"Gregory Morrow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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news:[email hidden]...> Anny Middon
wrote:

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Quoted message said:

>> While I'm certainly nowhere near the most prolific poster, Google
>> Groups
>> shows I first posted here in July, 2005. So I haven't just arrived.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Au contraire, a two - year tenure here marks you as an utter and
> complete noobie. In fact I've been here about *nine* years and I
> still consider myself something of a noobie...quite a few have been
> here far, *far* longer than me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> So be grateful that Sheldon is taking the time to "show you the
> ropes", kid...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sheldon said I had "just arrived". Regardless of whether a two-year
tenure
makes me a newbie or not, it's clear that I haven't just arrived.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Besides, I don't see what the big deal about newbies is. In the
newsgroups
I've participated in, I've frequently seen a person's first post be
polite,
entertaining, and full of interesting and accurate information. And then
there are the people like Sheldon, who posts rants full of dull
name-calling
and inaccuracies.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Who do you think adds more value to the newsgroup?

Quoted message said:

Honey, you *are* a clueless noobie...

Quoted message said:

Lol...

Quoted message said:

;-p

Quoted message said:

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Greg, it is way too hot for your puerile [censored]. Lay off, will you? You
are more than usually nauseating lately.

"Ve haf been vatching you VERRRRRY closely, cyberTVAT..."

;--p

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