[OT] ... but are male first names restricted in France?

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Is there now, or was there once, an exclusive list of permitted first
names for boys in France?

I'd read in the past of something similar in Denmark. Google found:
<http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1499398>
"In recent years, legislation on names in Denmark has focussed mainly on
personal names (particularly in the wake of the 1960s and 1970s, when
many new and unusual names were introduced. A list of approved male and
female first names is kept, and to have one's child named something not
on the list requires an application. The list is regularly revised -
but, of course, people who can prove a family or cultutral tradition for
a particular name, will always be allowed to use it."

A similar search for France (France permitted names) didn't throw up
anything obvious. If there /is/ such a list, my guess is that would be
something to do with their language protection regulations.

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I know this is off topic but knowing what a lot of smart people there
are here I thought I'd ask anyway....

Is there now, or was there once, an exclusive list of permitted first
names for boys in France?

Don't know about France - but is it possible you read something about Spain?
In the days of Franco there were only biblical and classical names allowed
for a child's first name. Now it's pretty much anything goes - but some
names would not be permitted - e.g if they might cause offence.

Rob

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Quoted message said:

I know this is off topic but knowing what a lot of smart people there
are here I thought I'd ask anyway....

Is there now, or was there once, an exclusive list of permitted first
names for boys in France?

Don't know about France - but is it possible you read something
about Spain? In the days of Franco there were only biblical and
classical names allowed for a child's first name. Now it's pretty
much anything goes - but some names would not be permitted - e.g if
they might cause offence.

They have a few restrictions in NZ.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6937327.stm

Dunno why you'd ever wanna call a baby 4Real though.

Chris
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Quoted message said:

I know this is off topic but knowing what a lot of smart people there
are here I thought I'd ask anyway....

Is there now, or was there once, an exclusive list of permitted first
names for boys in France?

I was under the impression that it was a list of approved spellings more
than a list of approved names.

I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh, Kiligh,
Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee

Here in the Uk registrars ask for the spelling of the child's name and are
duty bound to record what the parents tell them - a list would simplify
matters.

On 26/08/2007 14:06, vernon said,

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I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh, Kiligh,
Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee

One of my favourite names is Siobhan, but I wish people wouldn't spell
it phonetically! Must be my Irish ancestry :-)

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Quoted message said:

I know this is off topic but knowing what a lot of smart people there
are here I thought I'd ask anyway....

Quoted message said:

Is there now, or was there once, an exclusive list of permitted first
names for boys in France?

I think there was.
I think it's been abolished.
I don't know why this is what I believe but can't be bothered to look it
up. I did bother, then google seemed to say it had been abolished in
1993, linking to a Wikipedia page which had been updated since stating
this...

I think it could be a good idea. I know you ask about boys' names but
the silliest IMO are some girls' names. There was something on a BBC
webpage a while back on girls named Ikea...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6939112.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4418934.stm

France is not mentioned on that page though.

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Quoted post said:

I know this is off topic but knowing what a lot of smart people there
are here I thought I'd ask anyway....

Is there now, or was there once, an exclusive list of permitted first
names for boys in France?

I'd heard this as well, but it's not easy to find anything about
it on the net. There are a couple of discussions at

http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/3802

and

http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=193347&board=gen

The second of these leads to

http://www.meilleursprenoms.com/site/Legislation/legislation.htm

which is a page (in French) which talks about French legislation
relating to names. I think that it says that during the Revolution a
list of approved names was established and you weren't allowed to give
your child a name that wasn't on the list. This law was eventually
relaxed in 1966, 1981 and 1993 and you can now call your children
pretty much what you want, although the officials who issue birth
certificates are allowed to reject names which are patently ridiculous
or which are otherwise not in the child's interest (we could do with
some of that here).

Some countries, such as Denmark and Hugary, do have lists of approved
names: you can find links to these from the second URL above.

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On 26/08/2007 14:06, vernon said,

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I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh, Kiligh,
Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee

One of my favourite names is Siobhan, but I wish people wouldn't spell
it phonetically! Must be my Irish ancestry :-)

Ceilidh anyone?

Rob Morley said:

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On 26/08/2007 14:06, vernon said,

Quoted message said:

I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh, Kiligh,
Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee

One of my favourite names is Siobhan, but I wish people wouldn't spell
it phonetically! Must be my Irish ancestry :-)

Ceilidh anyone?

Probably an urban myth, but didn't someone call their child Clamidia
because it sounded nice?

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Question _your own_ authority.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Boyd
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On 26/08/2007 14:06, vernon said,

Quoted message said:

I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh, Kiligh,
Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee

One of my favourite names is Siobhan, but I wish people wouldn't spell
it phonetically! Must be my Irish ancestry :-)

Ceilidh anyone?

Would that be Ceilidh Minogue?

IGMC

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Tony

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I think it could be a good idea. I know you ask about boys' names but
the silliest IMO are some girls' names. There was something on a BBC
webpage a while back on girls named Ikea...

It would. It took a lot of effort to resist the temptation to call our
twins Mercedes and Portia and its easy to see how some fail, ending up
with names like Fifi Trixibell (although she's probably "Mary" to her
friends now ;-) )

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Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

Paul Boyd said:

On 26/08/2007 14:06, vernon said,

Quoted message said:

I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh,
Kiligh, Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee

One of my favourite names is Siobhan, but I wish people wouldn't spell
it phonetically! Must be my Irish ancestry :-)

Errr but surely Siobhan IS spelt phonetically?

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Rob Morley said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Boyd
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On 26/08/2007 14:06, vernon said,

> I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh,
> Kiligh,
> Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee
One of my favourite names is Siobhan, but I wish people wouldn't spell
it phonetically! Must be my Irish ancestry :-)

Ceilidh anyone?

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Probably an urban myth, but didn't someone call their child Clamidia
because it sounded nice?

I worked with a doctor/medical student called Candida.

Inote there was an Axel Axelsen(sp) as a finisher of the PBP in 2003...

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Don Whybrow said:

Probably an urban myth, but didn't someone call their child Clamidia
because it sounded nice?

I was on a campsite recently where someone had girls called Camilla and
Lydia. Either might be OK individually, but try wandering round calling
"Camilla and Lydia" or "Camilla, Lydia"!

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Daddy, why did you put that down?" - Charlie Colyer, age 2

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Don Whybrow said:

Probably an urban myth, but didn't someone call their child Clamidia
because it sounded nice?

I was on a campsite recently where someone had girls called Camilla and
Lydia. Either might be OK individually, but try wandering round calling
"Camilla and Lydia" or "Camilla, Lydia"!

Not as bad as the Richard Sole I was at school with. Taking the
register was always the time for much schoolboy anticipation ;-)

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Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

Tony Raven said:

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Don Whybrow said:

Probably an urban myth, but didn't someone call their child Clamidia
because it sounded nice?

I was on a campsite recently where someone had girls called Camilla and
Lydia. Either might be OK individually, but try wandering round calling
"Camilla and Lydia" or "Camilla, Lydia"!

Not as bad as the Richard Sole I was at school with. Taking the
register was always the time for much schoolboy anticipation ;-)

I had a friend once called Sue, she married a Mr Mee!

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Don Whybrow said:

Probably an urban myth, but didn't someone call their child Clamidia
because it sounded nice?

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I was on a campsite recently where someone had girls called Camilla and
Lydia. Either might be OK individually, but try wandering round calling
"Camilla and Lydia" or "Camilla, Lydia"!

Sometimes the combination of names is comical. I have a friend whose
three sons are named, Tom, Henry...

and Oscar.

I'm pleased #3 (or #2) was not Richard...

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Quoted message said:

I know this is off topic but knowing what a lot of smart people there
are here I thought I'd ask anyway....

Is there now, or was there once, an exclusive list of permitted first
names for boys in France?

A teacher at the Alliance Française told me that this was once so and
resulted in the common use of hyphenation of first names. He was Jean-Yves
and there was another teacher called Jacqueline-Marie. Other examples (in
classical music, for example): Jean-Philippe Collard, Marie-Claire Alain,
François-René Duchable etc., etc.
Graham

marc said:

Paul Boyd said:

On 26/08/2007 14:06, vernon said,

Quoted message said:

I've taught a gazillion permutations of Kilee, Kyleigh, Kighleigh,
Kiligh, Kylee, Kielee, Keelee, Khilee

One of my favourite names is Siobhan, but I wish people wouldn't spell
it phonetically! Must be my Irish ancestry :-)

Errr but surely Siobhan IS spelt phonetically?

as are Mhairi, Sine, and Sile etc