Find Out How the Neocons Staged a Terror Attack and Killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11

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Geez!

If YOU are so aware of this ginormous fabrication, don't you think a few
SANE people would be, too?

Don't you think THEY would investigate?

Or, is half the world being "paid off"?

If so, where's MY check?

ROFLMAO!

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"I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush
and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in
this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they
were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people
will say that's much too kind, however even that is high treason and
conspiracy to commit murder." - Former Director of Advanced Space
Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter.

Find out how how conspiracy kooks will stage, lie, distort the truth
and give aid and comfort to our enemies.

I watched a show on TV last night that debunks conspiracy theories.
They looked at the Oklahoma City bombing and the similar conspiracy
kooks that don't believe a truck bomb alone could have brought down
the federal building. These whack jobs claim there had to be
additional explosives placed in the building itself. Chief among
them is a retired Air Force General, who allegedly was an explosives
expert. This is the type of almost believable alleged expert that
these kooks like to cite. His main point that supported a
conspiracy was that by his calculations, the truck, loaded with
explosives, placed 15 ft from major structural pillars, could not have
caused the collapse because it would have only generated 500lbs of
force at the pillars. The experts on the official investigation
calcuated it as 5500lbs. of force.

So, to settle it, the show got an indentical truck, loaded it with the
exact material McVeigh used, built identical concrete pillars in the
desert and set it off. The result: Over 5600lbs of force recorded
at the pillars, almost spot on to the official experts calculation.
So, now does the General, who obviously knows very little about even
explosives, let alone building collapse, and has lost all credibility
say, ooops, I was wrong? No, he now says the force doesn't matter,
and retreats back to more stupid arguments, like the explosion wasn't
perfectly symettrical, etc.

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Jim34 said:

Watch 9/11 Mysteries:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536

"I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush
and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in
this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they
were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people
will say that's much too kind, however even that is high treason and
conspiracy to commit murder." - Former Director of Advanced Space
Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter.

Find out how how conspiracy kooks will stage, lie, distort the truth
and give aid and comfort to our enemies.

For anyone that cares, HBO did a great piece on the claims of these
kooks. You can get it via bittorrent.

"The 9 - 11 Conspiracies - Fact or Fiction"

http://www.torrentbox.com/torrent_details?id=125450

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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

Jim34 said:

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THe Middle East has suffered from what Michael Moore refered to as
the policies of "Stupid White Men," mostly self-righteous Christians
who felt they "knew the way" and then found their oil and figured out
another way when oil became the strategic world resource.

The Kurds, Afghans, Pakistani's et al all feel they should govern
their respective destiny and might have done so were it not for Shell
(the Dutch) and BO (the British) and AMOCO (thass us) whose wealthy
owners cared little for self-determination should it interfere with
profit and power.

It was Europeans and Americans who forced a state of Israel on the
region - akin to turning a temple into a pig farm from an Arabic
prospective.

Imagine the turmoil in this country should the United Nations decide
that he Indians and Blacks should have their land and repatriations
and decided to arm them and support their new "states" within our
borders? Does the image of the Wolverines (RED DAWN) come to mind aa
angry Americans attempted to thwart such activities as the reclamation
of Indian lands.

We are involved in the Iraq war instead of seeking out OBL, ostensibly
to destroy Saddam's WMD while supplying Israel with American and
French WMD and billions in aid to boot.

"Its not about oil," of course, Mr. President. Never was, was it.

Hooey.

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....and:

"Fake Moon landing"
"Who really shot Kennedy"
"Katrina and the VLF transmitters"
"Area 51 exposed"
"Global Warming(kumbaya) and savior Al"
"The holocaust never happened"

Tom Gardner' tom(nospam)@ohiobrush.com said:

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...and:

"Fake Moon landing"
"Who really shot Kennedy"
"Katrina and the VLF transmitters"
"Area 51 exposed"
"Global Warming(kumbaya) and savior Al"
"The holocaust never happened"

Errrrmmm... What are you trying to say here???

I discovered a way to take your house off the grid and run it ALL -
including air conditioners - on only SIX (6) Q-Ray Bracelets!!!!!....

.......but, the Electric Company PAC bought it from me and hid it.

I'll sell it to anybody for............

THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED BY THE US GOVERNMENT!

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Nice production values. Osama is dyeing his hair nowadays, too.
Perhaps we're all coming together, in our way.

A slightly less sententious tone would work better, I think. But it's
rather well designed. After about 5 mins, having (purposely, I think)
turned away the more intelligent viewers, it starts with the conspiracy
theory.

As time goes on, it deliberately appeals to slightly stupider and
stupider, and hooked-er and hooked-er people. That was actually the
most interesting thing about it, I thought. Actually I'm going to
watch this thing through.

"Sound reaches us after vision" [so the sound of an explosion should
come after the collapse of a building. Ignoring that the collapse need
not coincide with its cause.]

"Steel melts at X degrees, i.e. only in a blast furnace or when
thermite is applied to it" [the steel presumably couldn't have lost its
strength without melting]. She carries on talking about steel stoves
that run red hot (wow, 500 degC).

"We are talking explosions rather than implosions, a first in
demolition history" [hardly good evidence for demolition, which is the
allegation!]

"Watch both buildings collapse straight down" [see previous note - heh,
why can't we have it both ways!]

"We are watching a building collapse faster than gravity itself" [in
fact they collapsed at approximately g.dot].

[16 mins on] Something about volcanoes now. After a long digression
about volcanoes a guy with a freaky tone talks about pyroclastic flows
and [ah!] controlled demolitions. I wondered when they'd get back to
the theme...

Fires underground. [So where do you expect the energy to go after the
collapse?]

"Professor Jones barely got in his mention of thermite... we know rhat
open air fires cannot melt steel... white smoke appeared at the base of
the building" [a lot of [censored] chemistry here, the white smoke at
the base of the building comes in again, thought it looks like some
minor effect of overpressure, certainly not a thermite device close to
the base.]

"Demolition stages had to take place in a hurry in the panicked
aftermath of the plane crashes" [yeah, I'd nearly forgotten about the
plane crashes myself by now].

Getting to 54 mins, we're taking words out of context... And now Mr.
Silverstein is profiteering from his investment in the buildings and
his insurance policies. [Doesn't sound a very Anglo-Saxon type, does
he?]

LOL, "lost forever were thousands of documents on corporate fraud,
including Enron". [What a waste going on to convict Kenneth Lay,
then...]

1:03 hours in... George Bush's cousin laid the explosives...

"Patients have black paste coming out of their pores. They have
reported bowel movements that are blue or green, even thought they have
not been near a fire scene in months..." [nearly getting on topic in
rasfc now...]

It's all about asbestos and stuff now. But now and again they refer to
the story, and are no longer 'questioning', they refer to the
'conspiracy'. Kind of like a stage magician, you watch his hands and
you don't notice what's being slipped in...

1:17 - some of the 'scientific' images are looking a bit home-made
now...

$200m worth of gold belonging to one company was found after. Was
there more? Stuff was being moved around. People heard funny noises!
Gold stored in the buildings was being whisked away!

It finishes with assertions of a conspiracy, immediately followed with
a claim that its purpose is to raise questions, followed with some
legalistic stuff, followed by some quite New Agey stuff (Rabbit Holes,
Alice, this is the First Awakening. I'm not making this up, honest.)

But heh, visit 911Mysteries.com, contribute to the making of Part 2:
Hijackers and Planes. You are all invited!

- Gerry Quinn

Gerry Quinn said:

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Quoted message said:

Watch 9/11 Mysteries:

Quoted message said:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536

Nice production values. Osama is dyeing his hair nowadays, too.
Perhaps we're all coming together, in our way.

A slightly less sententious tone would work better, I think. But it's
rather well designed. After about 5 mins, having (purposely, I think)
turned away the more intelligent viewers, it starts with the conspiracy
theory.

As time goes on, it deliberately appeals to slightly stupider and
stupider, and hooked-er and hooked-er people. That was actually the
most interesting thing about it, I thought. Actually I'm going to
watch this thing through.

"Sound reaches us after vision" [so the sound of an explosion should
come after the collapse of a building. Ignoring that the collapse need
not coincide with its cause.]

"Steel melts at X degrees, i.e. only in a blast furnace or when
thermite is applied to it" [the steel presumably couldn't have lost its
strength without melting]. She carries on talking about steel stoves
that run red hot (wow, 500 degC).

"We are talking explosions rather than implosions, a first in
demolition history" [hardly good evidence for demolition, which is the
allegation!]

"Watch both buildings collapse straight down" [see previous note - heh,
why can't we have it both ways!]

"We are watching a building collapse faster than gravity itself" [in
fact they collapsed at approximately g.dot].

[16 mins on] Something about volcanoes now. After a long digression
about volcanoes a guy with a freaky tone talks about pyroclastic flows
and [ah!] controlled demolitions. I wondered when they'd get back to
the theme...

Fires underground. [So where do you expect the energy to go after the
collapse?]

"Professor Jones barely got in his mention of thermite... we know rhat
open air fires cannot melt steel... white smoke appeared at the base of
the building" [a lot of [censored] chemistry here, the white smoke at
the base of the building comes in again, thought it looks like some
minor effect of overpressure, certainly not a thermite device close to
the base.]

"Demolition stages had to take place in a hurry in the panicked
aftermath of the plane crashes" [yeah, I'd nearly forgotten about the
plane crashes myself by now].

Getting to 54 mins, we're taking words out of context... And now Mr.
Silverstein is profiteering from his investment in the buildings and
his insurance policies. [Doesn't sound a very Anglo-Saxon type, does
he?]

LOL, "lost forever were thousands of documents on corporate fraud,
including Enron". [What a waste going on to convict Kenneth Lay,
then...]

1:03 hours in... George Bush's cousin laid the explosives...

"Patients have black paste coming out of their pores. They have
reported bowel movements that are blue or green, even thought they have
not been near a fire scene in months..." [nearly getting on topic in
rasfc now...]

It's all about asbestos and stuff now. But now and again they refer to
the story, and are no longer 'questioning', they refer to the
'conspiracy'. Kind of like a stage magician, you watch his hands and
you don't notice what's being slipped in...

1:17 - some of the 'scientific' images are looking a bit home-made
now...

$200m worth of gold belonging to one company was found after. Was
there more? Stuff was being moved around. People heard funny noises!
Gold stored in the buildings was being whisked away!

It finishes with assertions of a conspiracy, immediately followed with
a claim that its purpose is to raise questions, followed with some
legalistic stuff, followed by some quite New Agey stuff (Rabbit Holes,
Alice, this is the First Awakening. I'm not making this up, honest.)

But heh, visit 911Mysteries.com, contribute to the making of Part 2:
Hijackers and Planes. You are all invited!

- Gerry Quinn

You ever wonder what would happen it these kinds of nuts were on a
jury? Would they reach the logical conclusion based on a fair and
reasonable appraisal of all the testimony and evidence? No, they'd
disregard the expert testimony and that of most of the witnesses and
instead focus on some obscure facet and then blow it all out of
proportion to fit their own preconceived conclusion. Doesn't matter
that 10 eyewitnesses saw the 2 defendants do it and drive off in a red
van. Doesn't matter that the red van and clothing left at the scene
with DNA was traced to the defendants. No, one little old lady said
she saw three of them, not two and they drove off in a green sedan.
Therefore, there must be a massive conspiracy among God only knows how
many people to hide the truth. Actually, something along these
lines already happened with the OJ jury, didn't it? Except these
911 kooks throw in that it must be Bush, Neocons or Jews who really
did it, because they hate them.

Watch Martial Law 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661

Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State was filmed primarily during
the Republican Party's 2004 national convention in New York City. The
Republican Party's choice to hold the event there drew both strong
praise and strong criticism. Alex Jones' clear intent was that the
people who were truly guilty of planning and carrying out the events
of September 11, 2001 were coming back to the scene of the crime. In
the film, Jones shows what he believes are signs of a growing police
state: constant surveillance, a defined military presence, a
militarized civilian police force, mass roundups and arrests of
protesters, detention in a makeshift facility laden with asbestos
which one interviewee called a "concentration camp", and threats of
arrest for constitutionally legal activities. Many different views are
presented, including one semi-humorous confrontation with a group of
American communists.

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Watch Martial Law 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661

Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State was filmed primarily during
the Republican Party's 2004 national convention in New York City. The
Republican Party's choice to hold the event there drew both strong
praise and strong criticism. Alex Jones' clear intent was that the
people who were truly guilty of planning and carrying out the events
of September 11, 2001 were coming back to the scene of the crime. In
the film, Jones shows what he believes are signs of a growing police
state: constant surveillance, a defined military presence, a
militarized civilian police force, mass roundups and arrests of
protesters, detention in a makeshift facility laden with asbestos
which one interviewee called a "concentration camp", and threats of
arrest for constitutionally legal activities. Many different views are
presented, including one semi-humorous confrontation with a group of
American communists.

I think I've watched quite enough of your drivel for now, thank you...

- Gerry Quinn

Gerry Quinn said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Watch Martial Law 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661

Quoted message said:

Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State was filmed primarily during
the Republican Party's 2004 national convention in New York City. The
Republican Party's choice to hold the event there drew both strong
praise and strong criticism. Alex Jones' clear intent was that the
people who were truly guilty of planning and carrying out the events
of September 11, 2001 were coming back to the scene of the crime. In
the film, Jones shows what he believes are signs of a growing police
state: constant surveillance, a defined military presence, a
militarized civilian police force, mass roundups and arrests of
protesters, detention in a makeshift facility laden with asbestos
which one interviewee called a "concentration camp", and threats of
arrest for constitutionally legal activities. Many different views are
presented, including one semi-humorous confrontation with a group of
American communists.

I think I've watched quite enough of your drivel for now, thank you...

Yeah, what a bunch of despicable skunks that do everything they can to
undermine this country with a bunch of trumped up nonsense and in turn
give aid and comfort to the real evil in the world that we know are
responsible for 911. Funny how you hear them [censored] and making
videos with all kinds of accusations about "neocons", but not a peep
about radical Muslims beheading people and blowing up women and
children every day, Kim Il Jong starving 25 million slowly to death
while building nukes, Ahmadinejad calling for the wiping out of
Israel, or any others on the list of real evil in the world.