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Starting to have a problem with rear end flats

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  1. I had a flat yesterday. Put in a new tube after checking to see if something
    was poking through the liner. There was a dark spot, but I couldn't feel any
    protrusion or anything sharp. Pumped up the new tube and rode today and got
    another flat on the same tire.

    Do I need to lift the liner and check to see if the spoke is poking through?
    Do I need to turn the tire inside out and then carefully feel all around the
    inside of it for a speck of rock or something?
    What's the likely cause of frequent flats?
    Is there some kind of procedure to follow? I hate getting stranded.

  2. Greens said:

    I had a flat yesterday. Put in a new tube after checking to see if
    something
    was poking through the liner. There was a dark spot, but I couldn't feel
    any
    protrusion or anything sharp. Pumped up the new tube and rode today and
    got
    another flat on the same tire.

    Do I need to lift the liner and check to see if the spoke is poking
    through?
    Do I need to turn the tire inside out and then carefully feel all around
    the
    inside of it for a speck of rock or something?
    What's the likely cause of frequent flats?
    Is there some kind of procedure to follow? I hate getting stranded.

    Have you checked the leaker to see whether it was a pinch flat? Increasing
    tire pressure, changing tires, baby powder the tubes can help.
    --
    Slack

  3. "?Slack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Greens said:

    I had a flat yesterday. Put in a new tube after checking to see if
    something
    was poking through the liner. There was a dark spot, but I couldn't feel
    any
    protrusion or anything sharp. Pumped up the new tube and rode today and
    got
    another flat on the same tire.

    Do I need to lift the liner and check to see if the spoke is poking
    through?
    Do I need to turn the tire inside out and then carefully feel all around
    the
    inside of it for a speck of rock or something?
    What's the likely cause of frequent flats?
    Is there some kind of procedure to follow? I hate getting stranded.

    Have you checked the leaker to see whether it was a pinch flat?
    Increasing
    tire pressure, changing tires, baby powder the tubes can help.
    --
    Slack

    Brought it to the shop today. There was a lot of embeded metal flakes in
    that band inside the rim. The bike shop guy suggested the thing wasn't
    properly cleaned out when it was built and the flakes worked their way into
    the tube. That doesn't explain why I didn't have a problem for 4 months and
    then all of a sudden two problems. He replaced the band with something
    better and replaced the tube.

    Baby powder, eh? Maybe I should carry some in case I get another flat.
    Either that or just get those airless tires that don't get flats.

  4. Greens said:

    Brought it to the shop today. There was a lot of embeded metal flakes in
    that band inside the rim. The bike shop guy suggested the thing wasn't
    properly cleaned out when it was built and the flakes worked their way into
    the tube. That doesn't explain why I didn't have a problem for 4 months and
    then all of a sudden two problems. He replaced the band with something
    better and replaced the tube.

    Baby powder, eh? Maybe I should carry some in case I get another flat.
    Either that or just get those airless tires that don't get flats.

    In all fairness 2 flats in 4 months is pretty good! And flats will never
    leave you stranded unless the tyre has sustained serious damage or you
    left your spare tube, patches and pump at home.

    Don't go for airless tyres: they don't ride anything like as well as
    pneumatic tyres. As Slack suggested, if you keep getting flats you need
    to determine the cause. If it's pinch punctures (no hole in your tyre
    and usually a snake-bite double puncture or a small slit in the tube)
    then a bit more air pressure (I ride 40psi on a hard-tail) and/or get
    less air!

    If it's thorns then consider kevlar protected tyres but realistically
    there is no total prevention. When you suspect you've get one of these:
    (i) inspect the outside of the tyre to see if you can spot the
    broken-off end of the thorn;
    (ii) take one side of the tyre off of the rim and *without* removing the
    tube run your fingers around the inside of the tyre to feel for thorn
    points poking through and
    (iii) with the tube valve still attached to the wheel and, using your
    finds from (i) and (ii) to locate the holes, patch-up your tube.

    Ian

  5. "7@m3 G33k" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Greens said:

    Brought it to the shop today. There was a lot of embeded metal flakes in
    that band inside the rim. The bike shop guy suggested the thing wasn't
    properly cleaned out when it was built and the flakes worked their way
    into the tube. That doesn't explain why I didn't have a problem for 4
    months and then all of a sudden two problems. He replaced the band with
    something better and replaced the tube.

    Baby powder, eh? Maybe I should carry some in case I get another flat.
    Either that or just get those airless tires that don't get flats.

    In all fairness 2 flats in 4 months is pretty good! And flats will never
    leave you stranded unless the tyre has sustained serious damage or you
    left your spare tube, patches and pump at home.

    Don't go for airless tyres: they don't ride anything like as well as
    pneumatic tyres. As Slack suggested, if you keep getting flats you need to
    determine the cause. If it's pinch punctures (no hole in your tyre and
    usually a snake-bite double puncture or a small slit in the tube) then a
    bit more air pressure (I ride 40psi on a hard-tail) and/or get less air!

    If it's thorns then consider kevlar protected tyres but realistically
    there is no total prevention. When you suspect you've get one of these:
    (i) inspect the outside of the tyre to see if you can spot the broken-off
    end of the thorn;
    (ii) take one side of the tyre off of the rim and *without* removing the
    tube run your fingers around the inside of the tyre to feel for thorn
    points poking through and
    (iii) with the tube valve still attached to the wheel and, using your
    finds from (i) and (ii) to locate the holes, patch-up your tube.

    Ian

    Thanks for the useful information.

  6. Or you could go tubeless and get maybe one flat a year. Of course,
    you might need to upgrade your wheelset to do this.

    Tubeless does require some minor maintenance and care every so often,
    but at least you won't lose ride time changing a tube/tire, except for
    the rare occurrence.

    Another advantage of tubeless is the ability to ride lower PSI, thus
    more traction for steep uphills and rock gardens. But that may not
    fit your riding conditions. If you race, or plan on racing, tubeless
    is the way to go.

    Pros and cons to both systems, you'd need to decide if tubeless works
    for you. Talk to your LBS mechanic, he should be able to guide you in
    the right direction.

    TS

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