PHOTOS FROM INSIDE IRAN

Edward M. Kennedy said:

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> > >http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

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> > Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

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> The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
> class.

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> Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
> even him.

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> A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
> was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
> issues but it's a modern city.

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> More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
> Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
> could see change sooner than later.

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Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey.

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And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
Arabs too.

Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.

There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
from running for office in 1994.

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So you spout off all this misnnformation about Iran and then dare
declare, "Do you know anything about Iran?" Your statement about "see
the previous president" to prove your point is extremely weak, since
they went ahead and elected an anti-Jewish [censored] who wants to destroy
Jews and is doing everything he can to get the job done. Oh, I'm sure
public reform is strong -- up in the hills and mountains where they
run and hide so they can wear their hair the way they want to. Let's
be clear -- wearing hair in an "anti-Islamic manner" is far, far from
"reform." We are talking institutionalized hate here that is bound and
determined to manifest itself by the destruction of an entire state
and its supporters. Your arguments are Larouchian.

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>http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.

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The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

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Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

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A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

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More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

I guess Lebanon is similar in many ways, most people lead a life not that
far removed from many in the "Western World" but sadly the separation of
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So you interpret the "Western World" lifestyle as -- hou? Music?
Hairstyle? It doesn't matter how you wear your hair, what movies you
watch or what kind of music you listen to when it comes to
institutionalized hate.

Edward M. Kennedy said:

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

This is an unbelieveably simplistic and erroneous statement. You
should hang your head in shame that you compare a nation that has
freedom of religion to a rogue nation of goons that hate Jews -- and
has publicly stated so, by the way -- and has an institutionalized
system that has led to stonings of those who violate its tenets, not
to mention its attempt to destroy a nation that believes differently.

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> > > >http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

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> > > Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

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> > The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
> > class.

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> > Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
> > even him.

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> > A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
> > was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
> > issues but it's a modern city.

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> > More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
> > Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
> > could see change sooner than later.

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> Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
> The people want a situation more like Turkey.

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And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
Arabs too.

Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.

There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
from running for office in 1994.

--Tedward- Hide quoted text -

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So you spout off all this misnnformation about Iran and then dare
declare,

Feel to point some out.

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"Do you know anything about Iran?" Your statement about "see
the previous president" to prove your point is extremely weak, since
they went ahead and elected an anti-Jewish [censored] who wants to destroy
Jews and is doing everything he can to get the job done. Oh, I'm sure
public reform is strong -- up in the hills and mountains where they
run and hide so they can wear their hair the way they want to. Let's
be clear -- wearing hair in an "anti-Islamic manner" is far, far from
"reform." We are talking institutionalized hate here that is bound and
determined to manifest itself by the destruction of an entire state
and its supporters. Your arguments are Larouchian.

Just because some Iranians want to wipe out Israel has nothing
to do with my original assertion:

"Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey."

Btw, you don't sound any better than Iran's president.

--Tedward

In rec.sport.football.college Edward M. Kennedy <[email hidden]> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:

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"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> > > > >http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

> > > > Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

> > > The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
> > > class.

> > > Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
> > > even him.

> > > A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
> > > was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
> > > issues but it's a modern city.

> > > More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
> > > Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
> > > could see change sooner than later.

> > Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
> > The people want a situation more like Turkey.

> > --Tedward- Hide quoted text -

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> And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
> think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
> anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
Arabs too.

Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.

There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
from running for office in 1994.

--Tedward- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So you spout off all this misnnformation about Iran and then dare
declare,

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Feel to point some out.

Quoted message said:

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"Do you know anything about Iran?" Your statement about "see
the previous president" to prove your point is extremely weak, since
they went ahead and elected an anti-Jewish [censored] who wants to destroy
Jews and is doing everything he can to get the job done. Oh, I'm sure
public reform is strong -- up in the hills and mountains where they
run and hide so they can wear their hair the way they want to. Let's
be clear -- wearing hair in an "anti-Islamic manner" is far, far from
"reform." We are talking institutionalized hate here that is bound and
determined to manifest itself by the destruction of an entire state
and its supporters. Your arguments are Larouchian.

Quoted message said:

Just because some Iranians want to wipe out Israel has nothing
to do with my original assertion:

Quoted message said:

"Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey."

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Btw, you don't sound any better than Iran's president.

Iran is a complicated place. You are pretty close to completely
right, and your interlocutor is nearly entirely wrong. To the
point, in fact, that he sounds a lot like somebody trying to build
up anti-semitic hate early in the 3rd Reich.

There's a lot of bad in Iran right now. There are a lot of _other_
things going on in Iran, too, and it's very interesting to actually
discover, rather than reading ignorant, hate-filled diatribes.

rich
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Edward M. Kennedy said:

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

This is an unbelieveably simplistic and erroneous statement. You
should hang your head in shame that you compare a nation that has
freedom of religion to a rogue nation of goons that hate Jews -- and
has publicly stated so, by the way -- and has an institutionalized
system that has led to stonings of those who violate its tenets, not
to mention its attempt to destroy a nation that believes differently.

We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

In rec.sport.football.college T <[email hidden]> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:

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Edward M. Kennedy said:

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

This is an unbelieveably simplistic and erroneous statement. You
should hang your head in shame that you compare a nation that has
freedom of religion to a rogue nation of goons that hate Jews -- and
has publicly stated so, by the way -- and has an institutionalized
system that has led to stonings of those who violate its tenets, not
to mention its attempt to destroy a nation that believes differently.

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We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

We have that, too. It's occasionally threatened, but it's
still in pretty good shape.

rich
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T said:

We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

Yea. Them Lutherans always screamin' CONVERT OR DIE! while the
streets run red with blood.

-Tom Enright

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T said:

We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

Yea. Them Lutherans always screamin' CONVERT OR DIE! while the
streets run red with blood.

-Tom Enright

You missed the point. Government funding of faith based initiatives is
wrong and should never have been allowed to happen.

T said:

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On Sep 18, 7:04 pm, T <[email hidden]> wrote:

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We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

Quoted message said:

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Yea. Them Lutherans always screamin' CONVERT OR DIE! while the
streets run red with blood.

-Tom Enright

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You missed the point. Government funding of faith based initiatives is
wrong and should never have been allowed to happen.

Government funding of about 90% of what they fund is wrong and should
never be allowed to happen. However, relative to the rest of the
programs supported by the government, I don't know why faith-based
initiatives are worse. If the group can do the job they are
contracted to do, who cares?

-Tom Enright

In rec.sport.football.college T <[email hidden]> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:

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In article <[email hidden]>,
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T said:

We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

Yea. Them Lutherans always screamin' CONVERT OR DIE! while the
streets run red with blood.

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You missed the point. Government funding of faith based initiatives is
wrong and should never have been allowed to happen.

Tom doesn't mind stealing your money to give to wealthy people
that go to church every week, it's poor people he doesn't want
to give your money to.

rich
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Edward M. Kennedy said:

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> > > > >http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

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> > > > Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

Quoted message said:

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> > > The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
> > > class.

Quoted message said:

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> > > Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
> > > even him.

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> > > A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
> > > was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
> > > issues but it's a modern city.

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> > > More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
> > > Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
> > > could see change sooner than later.

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> > Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
> > The people want a situation more like Turkey.

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> And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
> think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
> anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

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Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
Arabs too.

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Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

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Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.

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There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
from running for office in 1994.

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--Tedward- Hide quoted text -

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So you spout off all this misnnformation about Iran and then dare
declare,

Feel to point some out.

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"Do you know anything about Iran?" Your statement about "see
the previous president" to prove your point is extremely weak, since
they went ahead and elected an anti-Jewish [censored] who wants to destroy
Jews and is doing everything he can to get the job done. Oh, I'm sure
public reform is strong -- up in the hills and mountains where they
run and hide so they can wear their hair the way they want to. Let's
be clear -- wearing hair in an "anti-Islamic manner" is far, far from
"reform." We are talking institutionalized hate here that is bound and
determined to manifest itself by the destruction of an entire state
and its supporters. Your arguments are Larouchian.

Just because some Iranians want to wipe out Israel has nothing
to do with my original assertion:

"Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey."

Btw, you don't sound any better than Iran's president.

--Tedward- Hide quoted text -

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You are sadly, sadly mistaken. These people got what they want. You
don't seem to understand the culture of the Iranians.

rich hammett said:

In rec.sport.football.college Edward M. Kennedy <[email hidden]> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:

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"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> > > > > >http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

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> > > > > Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

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> > > > The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
> > > > class.

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> > > > Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah'strump
> > > > even him.

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> > > > A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
> > > > was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never thinkabout it
> > > > issues but it's a modern city.

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> > > > More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing.The
> > > > Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
> > > > could see change sooner than later.

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> > > Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
> > > The people want a situation more like Turkey.

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> > And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
> > think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
> > anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

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> Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
> Arabs too.

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> Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
> who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
> women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
> thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

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> Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.

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> There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
> anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
> got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
> from running for office in 1994.

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> --Tedward- Hide quoted text -

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So you spout off all this misnnformation about Iran and then dare
declare,

Feel to point some out.

Quoted message said:

"Do you know anything about Iran?" Your statement about "see
the previous president" to prove your point is extremely weak, since
they went ahead and elected an anti-Jewish [censored] who wants to destroy
Jews and is doing everything he can to get the job done. Oh, I'm sure
public reform is strong -- up in the hills and mountains where they
run and hide so they can wear their hair the way they want to. Let's
be clear -- wearing hair in an "anti-Islamic manner" is far, far from
"reform." We are talking institutionalized hate here that is bound and
determined to manifest itself by the destruction of an entire state
and its supporters. Your arguments are Larouchian.

Just because some Iranians want to wipe out Israel has nothing
to do with my original assertion:
"Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey."
Btw, you don't sound any better than Iran's president.

Iran is a complicated place. You are pretty close to completely
right, and your interlocutor is nearly entirely wrong. To the
point, in fact, that he sounds a lot like somebody trying to build
up anti-semitic hate early in the 3rd Reich.

There's a lot of bad in Iran right now. There are a lot of _other_
things going on in Iran, too, and it's very interesting to actually
discover, rather than reading ignorant, hate-filled diatribes.

rich
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Umm, the ugly, hate-filled diatribes are coming from Iran.

T said:

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Edward M. Kennedy said:

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Quoted message said:

You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

Quoted message said:

This is an unbelieveably simplistic and erroneous statement. You
should hang your head in shame that you compare a nation that has
freedom of religion to a rogue nation of goons that hate Jews -- and
has publicly stated so, by the way -- and has an institutionalized
system that has led to stonings of those who violate its tenets, not
to mention its attempt to destroy a nation that believes differently.

We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

There's a lot more freedom from religion being lived right now than
freedom of religion and that indeed has me concerned.

T said:

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On Sep 18, 7:04 pm, T <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

Quoted message said:

Yea. Them Lutherans always screamin' CONVERT OR DIE! while the
streets run red with blood.

Quoted message said:

-Tom Enright

You missed the point. Government funding of faith based initiatives is
wrong and should never have been allowed to happen.

I think YOU missed the point.

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Interesting photos, thanks.

Although I completely oppose the idea of attacking Iran--and opposed the
invasion of Iraq--I find the choice of musical accompaniment rather
interesting, since the convert-to-Islam version of Cat Stevens came out
in
public support of the fatwa calling for the murder of Salman Rushdie. Not
the action of a peace activist, hmmm?

Rushdie is still alive and making public appearances. The Fatwa was a
symbolic gesture. If they were serious, he would not have lasted a day.
Britain has a great many Muslims and I'm sure one would have gotten the
job
done.

Paul

Rushdie lived in hiding for years, protected by the British government.

The fatwa was evil, and Cat Stevens showed just how vicious he was by
publicly supporting it.

Disculpa Senora trijcomm, pero did you really mime the following on
9/18/2007 9:59 PM???

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Edward M. Kennedy said:

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

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>>>>>> http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
>>>>> Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.
>>>> The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
>>>> class.
>>>> Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
>>>> even him.
>>>> A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
>>>> was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
>>>> issues but it's a modern city.
>>>> More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
>>>> Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
>>>> could see change sooner than later.
>>> Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
>>> The people want a situation more like Turkey.
>>> --Tedward- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
>> think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
>> anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.
> Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
> Arabs too.
> Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
> who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
> women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
> thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.
> Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.
> There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
> anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
> got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
> from running for office in 1994.
> --Tedward- Hide quoted text -
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So you spout off all this misnnformation about Iran and then dare
declare,

Feel to point some out.

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"Do you know anything about Iran?" Your statement about "see
the previous president" to prove your point is extremely weak, since
they went ahead and elected an anti-Jewish [censored] who wants to destroy
Jews and is doing everything he can to get the job done. Oh, I'm sure
public reform is strong -- up in the hills and mountains where they
run and hide so they can wear their hair the way they want to. Let's
be clear -- wearing hair in an "anti-Islamic manner" is far, far from
"reform." We are talking institutionalized hate here that is bound and
determined to manifest itself by the destruction of an entire state
and its supporters. Your arguments are Larouchian.

Just because some Iranians want to wipe out Israel has nothing
to do with my original assertion:

"Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey."

Btw, you don't sound any better than Iran's president.

--Tedward- Hide quoted text -

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You are sadly, sadly mistaken. These people got what they want. You
don't seem to understand the culture of the Iranians.

Just out of curiosity, how many Iranians have you actually met or spoken
to? And please enlighten us - what exactly is this "culture of the
Iranians" that you refer to?

--
I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis.
I'm so cool you can keep a side of meat in me for months.

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Disculpa Senora trijcomm, pero did you really mime the following on
9/18/2007 9:59 PM???

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Edward M. Kennedy said:

"trijcomm" <[email hidden]> wrote

>>>>>>> http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
>>>>>> Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their
>>>>>> government then.
>>>>> The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the
>>>>> clerical
>>>>> class.
>>>>> Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's
>>>>> trump
>>>>> even him.
>>>>> A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran
>>>>> and it
>>>>> was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think
>>>>> about it
>>>>> issues but it's a modern city.
>>>>> More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
>>>>> Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So
>>>>> we
>>>>> could see change sooner than later.
>>>> Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
>>>> The people want a situation more like Turkey.
>>>> --Tedward- Hide quoted text -
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>>> And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
>>> think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
>>> anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.
>> Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
>> Arabs too.
>> Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
>> who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
>> women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
>> thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.
>> Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.
>> There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
>> anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
>> got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
>> from running for office in 1994.
>> --Tedward- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
> So you spout off all this misnnformation about Iran and then dare
> declare,
Feel to point some out.

> "Do you know anything about Iran?" Your statement about "see
> the previous president" to prove your point is extremely weak, since
> they went ahead and elected an anti-Jewish [censored] who wants to destroy
> Jews and is doing everything he can to get the job done. Oh, I'm sure
> public reform is strong -- up in the hills and mountains where they
> run and hide so they can wear their hair the way they want to. Let's
> be clear -- wearing hair in an "anti-Islamic manner" is far, far from
> "reform." We are talking institutionalized hate here that is bound and
> determined to manifest itself by the destruction of an entire state
> and its supporters. Your arguments are Larouchian.
Just because some Iranians want to wipe out Israel has nothing
to do with my original assertion:

"Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey."

Btw, you don't sound any better than Iran's president.

--Tedward- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You are sadly, sadly mistaken. These people got what they want. You
don't seem to understand the culture of the Iranians.

Just out of curiosity, how many Iranians have you actually met or spoken
to? And please enlighten us - what exactly is this "culture of the
Iranians" that you refer to?

It's [censored], dog [censored], is the culture and targets of opportunity are their
names.

--
------MoParMaN------

TEDWARD Said:

Eggs are really good for you. They have all the nutrition needed to make a
chicken.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:10:50 -0400, T <[email hidden]>

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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

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T said:

We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
religion that has me more concerned.

Yea. Them Lutherans always screamin' CONVERT OR DIE! while the
streets run red with blood.

-Tom Enright

You missed the point. Government funding of faith based initiatives is
wrong and should never have been allowed to happen.

So the Government should never have rebuilt those black churches that
the ministers burnt down? They shouldn't be building places for
muslims to pray, and giving tax write offs to mosques either?

Why is it when someone complains about religion.. what they are
really referring to is CHRISTIANITY.. not islam, judaism,
buddhist..anything else???

rich hammett said:

In rec.sport.football.college T <[email hidden]> sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

On Sep 18, 7:04 pm, T <[email hidden]> wrote:

> We may have freedom of religion in the U.S. but it's the freedom FROM
> religion that has me more concerned.

Yea. Them Lutherans always screamin' CONVERT OR DIE! while the
streets run red with blood.

Quoted message said:

You missed the point. Government funding of faith based initiatives is
wrong and should never have been allowed to happen.

Tom doesn't mind stealing your money to give to wealthy people
that go to church every week, it's poor people he doesn't want
to give your money to.

rich

Or drug dealing idiots that stand on the corner pushing [censored] to
kids.. while collecting from the gubmint..