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How to deal with tight tires on Zonda rims?

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  1. Michigan John said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Quoted message said:

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?
    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    Vittoria's tires and yellow michelin tire-levers

    Quoted message said:

    How about Continental GP 4000?

    Conti's are traditionally very tight.

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

  2. bfd said:

    On Sep 19, 8:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?


    For tools, you may want to check out a VAR tire lever, it pulls the
    tire over the rim. I've used them for years on many different types of
    rims and tires and have NEVER had any problems mounting. Check it out:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=64121433636&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Tire-and-Tube&tc=Tire-Levers&item_id=VR-425

    Quoted message said:

    I think Rivendell sells them too.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Any brands of tires that are looser.


    Maybe the question should be what size tires are you using?
    700x18/20/23? I use 700x25 and have no problem mounting. I like Avocet
    as they are a *true* 25mm wide (varies between 24-26mm in width), but
    those are almost impossible to find.

    Quoted message said:

    Michelin 700x25 are supposely another tire that runs true in its
    width. Pumped up to 90-95psi, it provides a really comfortable ride
    with no lost of performance. Something to consider.

    umm im very fond of my 25mm Pro2Race, It was a joy to decent from the
    terible col mollard on those tires. lots of grip and a huge airchamber
    to deal with the most dangerous decent of the alpes. (The first 10k of
    the decent from Mollard to San st. Marianne is a lot slower than ex
    Galliber-Lautrait but the road is terribible and there are lots of
    uturns, an sturns).

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

  3. My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?
    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    How about Continental GP 4000?

  4. On Sep 19, 10:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?
    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    How about Continental GP 4000?

    Carry a little hotel soap in your seat bag and use it to lube the edge
    of the rim. Great for greasy hands, too!

  5. On Sep 19, 8:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?


    For tools, you may want to check out a VAR tire lever, it pulls the
    tire over the rim. I've used them for years on many different types of
    rims and tires and have NEVER had any problems mounting. Check it out:

    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=64121433636&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Tire-and-Tube&tc=Tire-Levers&item_id=VR-425

    I think Rivendell sells them too.

    Quoted message said:

    Any brands of tires that are looser.


    Maybe the question should be what size tires are you using?
    700x18/20/23? I use 700x25 and have no problem mounting. I like Avocet
    as they are a *true* 25mm wide (varies between 24-26mm in width), but
    those are almost impossible to find.

    Michelin 700x25 are supposely another tire that runs true in its
    width. Pumped up to 90-95psi, it provides a really comfortable ride
    with no lost of performance. Something to consider.

  6. Michigan John said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?

    A Var tyre-lever for on the road:

    <http://www.vartools.com/fr/fiche_produit.php?id=511&shop=&pro=>

    and a Koolstop bead jack for the workshop:

    <http://www.koolstop.com/Accessories/index.php#Anchor-without-3800>

    Both of them work by pulling up on the tyre bead from an anchor point
    on the other side of the rim, so there is no risk of pinching the
    tube, which could happen if you try to use traditional levers to force
    a recalcitrant tyre back on.

  7. "bfd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sep 19, 8:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on


    these

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for


    me.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these


    rims?

    Quoted message said:

    For tools, you may want to check out a VAR tire lever, it pulls the
    tire over the rim. I've used them for years on many different types of
    rims and tires and have NEVER had any problems mounting. Check it out:


    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=64121433636&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Tire-and-Tube&tc=Tire-Levers&item_id=VR-425

    Quoted message said:


    I think Rivendell sells them too.

    Quoted message said:

    Any brands of tires that are looser.


    Maybe the question should be what size tires are you using?
    700x18/20/23? I use 700x25 and have no problem mounting. I like Avocet
    as they are a *true* 25mm wide (varies between 24-26mm in width), but
    those are almost impossible to find.

    Michelin 700x25 are supposely another tire that runs true in its
    width. Pumped up to 90-95psi, it provides a really comfortable ride
    with no lost of performance. Something to consider.


    How do these compare to the Crank Brothers Speed Lever. I found that the
    Speed Lever is OK for loose fitting tires but tends to tear up the rubber
    covering on the bead wire.

    I use a liberal dose of talc in the tire and make sure the tube is well
    coated before installation. It helps a lot.

    Chas.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michigan John said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?
    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    How about Continental GP 4000?

    Something the others haven't mentioned: use as thin a rim tape as
    possible.

  9. * * Chas said:

    "bfd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...> On Sep 19, 8:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on


    these

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for


    me.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these


    rims?

    Quoted message said:

    For tools, you may want to check out a VAR tire lever, it pulls the
    tire over the rim. I've used them for years on many different types of
    rims and tires and have NEVER had any problems mounting. Check it out:

    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=64121433636&d=single&c=Tools...

    Quoted message said:

    I think Rivendell sells them too.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe the question should be what size tires are you using?
    700x18/20/23? I use 700x25 and have no problem mounting. I like Avocet
    as they are a *true* 25mm wide (varies between 24-26mm in width), but
    those are almost impossible to find.

    Quoted message said:

    Michelin 700x25 are supposely another tire that runs true in its
    width. Pumped up to 90-95psi, it provides a really comfortable ride
    with no lost of performance. Something to consider.

    How do these compare to the Crank Brothers Speed Lever. I found that the
    Speed Lever is OK for loose fitting tires but tends to tear up the rubber
    covering on the bead wire.

    I use a liberal dose of talc in the tire and make sure the tube is well
    coated before installation. It helps a lot.


    Don't know, never tried the Crank Brother lever. However, someone else
    stated they've tried both and recommended the VAR lever for the road;
    Crank Brother for the shop.

    Because it is plastic, I've heard of other breaking the VAR lever when
    its cold. That's never happened to me, but I take my time when I pull
    the tire over the rim. Good Luck!

  10. On Sep 19, 10:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?
    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    How about Continental GP 4000?

    Campagnolo rims are bad for tire mounting. Vento wheels from 1999 for
    me. Continental tires, Ultragatorskin and Ultra 2000 and 3000 in 23
    and 25c are terrible. Grand Prix 3000 also terrible. Vredestein
    Fortezza Tricomp 23c terrible. Panaracer Stradius Pro 23c terrible.
    Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX 25c are not too bad. Not easy but much
    better than above tires. As mentioned, bigger tires are usually
    easier. Thinnest rim tape possible. But the problem with Vento
    wheels is the spoke hole is huge so thin tape gets pushed through the
    hole and you get cut tubes that way. I deflate my Vento wheels after
    every ride to keep the tape lasting a bit longer.

  11. On Sep 19, 10:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?
    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    How about Continental GP 4000?

    I got rid of the Campagnolo wheels my wife had a hard time with. Now
    she rides Bontrager Race X Lite aeros (not the 24mm tall rim, the 30mm
    one) and they are a piece of cake to mount almost any tires. The Campy
    ones were always a pain even with all the good tricks Russell and
    others metioned.

  12. Campy rims have always been harder to mount clincher tires onto. The
    secret to not killing yourself in the ordeal is to not be too greedy
    with the tire levers. Using 2 tire levers, place the first one under
    the tire bead and pry the tire bead away from the rim lip. Insert the
    second lever about an inch from the first one and pry away, now remove
    the first lever and reinsert it to the right of the second lever also
    at about an inch away. Repeat the full process until the tire is
    unclinched. With this method I can get a Michillin tire off a Campy
    rim in under 5 minutes.

  13. On Sep 19, 9:54 am, "Michigan John" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My lady friend has a set of Campy Zonda wheels. Tires are so tight on these
    rims that she can't change a tube by herself and it's dang tough for me.
    We've been told Zondas are notorious for this.

    Is there any special tool or technique to ease tire mounting on these rims?
    Any brands of tires that are looser.

    How about Continental GP 4000?

    Vittoria Open Corsa...very soft. Cotton. Contis, altho I really like
    their tires, are a man made fiber and stiffer than cotton tires.

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