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  1. Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:

    On Sep 29, 9:09?pm, maxine in ri <[email hidden]> wrote:
    Any public library in the US will have many books about the various
    aspects of food science in their reference section... if your
    particular library doesn't have the books you want the librarian will
    obtain them for you through the inter-library lending system, a
    totally free service. Nowadays you can access the list of books on
    line.

    I could be wrong, but I suspect that Maxine is not trying to teach food
    science, but trying to teach science using food as an example. I think
    that there is a difference. Maxine didn't specify the age of the
    students, but if they are small children, teaching food science isn't
    practical. and there are probably little or no facilities.

    Quoted message said:

    No other organization has made greater contributions to the food
    sciences than the US military. Every day people consume foods that
    were developed in the US military test kitchens. No other culinary
    school comes close to those of the US military.

    My wife has a degree in chemistry. She worked as a food chemist for the
    US Army for seven years. She has taught many kitchen chemistry classes
    to elementary kids. It isn't the same.

    You obviously haven't been following along, or you would have noted my
    previous post: ""Food Science" is a popular degreed dicipline."

    And I see no reason that young teens (JHS) can't comprehend the
    concepte related to Food Science. Even budgeting is part of Food
    Science... from that everyone can benefit greatly.

    Sheldon

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:

    And I see no reason that young teens (JHS) can't comprehend the
    concepte related to Food Science. Even budgeting is part of Food
    Science... from that everyone can benefit greatly.

    Even in first grade?

  3. Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:

    And I see no reason that young teens (JHS) can't comprehend the
    concepte related to Food Science. Even budgeting is part of Food
    Science... from that everyone can benefit greatly.

    Even in first grade?

    Yes. In grade school, the school did a project where they baked
    cookies to sell at the open house. The weny on a field trip to the
    grocery store to buy the ingredients. The little ones counted out the
    eggs and learned how to measure, the older ones used division,
    multiplication, fractions and decimals to figure out how much each
    cookie cost them.

    maxine in ri

  4. Dee Dee said:

    "maxine in ri" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:[email hidden]...
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    Quoted message said:

    It wasn't until I read McGee, Corriher, and watched Alton Brown that
    what was going on when i applied heat or mixed liquids and dry items
    began to make sense, and I learned how to cook rather than just follow
    a recipe.

    Quoted message said:

    maxine in ri

    I note that McGee's book was revised in 2004 (from 1984). I wondered
    whether he had changed his mind on certain things.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_McGee
    "McGee's science-based approach to cooking has been embraced and popularized
    by chefs and authors such as Heston Blumenthal, Alton Brown, Shirley
    Corriher, and Russ Parsons."

    I can't remember the discussion regarding Shirley Corriher when her latest
    (or only?) book came out about 5 years ago? about some things being in
    error, or that she didn't know what she was talking about, etc. Whether that
    was on this group or not, I can't recall.
    I tried to read it, but with that thought in mind, I just couldn't take it
    too seriously.

    I've not heard of Heston Blumenthal nor Russ Parsons. But I'll keep my eye
    out for them.

    But, Alton Brown, geez, I love what he does, or has done -- is he doing any
    regular shows anymore -- hope he hasn't turned into another Bourdain -- I
    need him.

    A new episode "Bean Stalker", about green beans, particularly the
    casserole, will be shown on November 07, 2007. As for everything
    else, his contract is ending soon, and he makes no money on Good Eats
    broadcasts since he spends the entire Food Network budget on producing
    the episodes. He only makes money on books, DVD sales, and his
    appearances on other shows and elsewhere.

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    Quoted message said:

    A new episode "Bean Stalker", about green beans, particularly the
    casserole, will be shown on November 07, 2007. As for everything
    else, his contract is ending soon, and he makes no money on Good Eats
    broadcasts since he spends the entire Food Network budget on producing
    the episodes. He only makes money on books, DVD sales, and his
    appearances on other shows and elsewhere.

    Thanks for the heads-up on 11-7-07. Wonder if they'll keep his recipes on
    the site.

    I've been wondering about that with Mario's, too. I have been watching
    Mario's old shows on FLIVING Channel 113, here, broadcast twice a day.
    Mario still has one program on the food network on Monday's.

    I like Alton's shows better than his books. I've not bought any. Too bad
    his shows were not profitable for him.

    --
    Dee Dee
    "A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
    enough people to make it worth the effort."

  6. Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:

    And I see no reason that young teens (JHS) can't comprehend the
    concepte related to Food Science. Even budgeting is part of Food
    Science... from that everyone can benefit greatly.

    Even in first grade?

    Especially in first grade. It's because young kids aren't taught
    budgeting is why so many grow up to be indebted losers. There is no
    reason whatsoever that anyone in the US should be in debt, other than
    because of their own weak minded stupidity.

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